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Old 06-13-2018, 09:57 AM   #101
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I've owned em all (except dodge) and I will chose Tundra

All. Day. Long

MPG isnt great, but its an awesome motor.
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:01 AM   #102
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Do you have any info to know for sure? I'm looking at a few GMC's with the 5.3 (2013 n up) but a little hesitant after reading this thread.

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No, but here is a link to a lawsuit alleging 2010-2013 ( but states the issues started in2007 )

https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2...-lawsuit.shtml
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:05 AM   #103
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I think GM's 6.0 is one of the most reliable gassers out there...my tranny crapped out with 335k miles & engine was still going strong.
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:07 AM   #104
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No, but here is a link to a lawsuit alleging 2010-2013 ( but states the issues started in2007 )

https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2...-lawsuit.shtml
Great info there and appreciate you passing it on.

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Old 06-13-2018, 10:11 AM   #105
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Toyota 3URFE (5.7L V8)
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:05 PM   #106
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Understand that I'm no wrench...it was explained to me that having 4cyl do the work of the other 4 & not having ignition / same combustion heat within those cylinders is what was causing some sort of the failure on the prison rings & was causing some other problems with gaskets leaking...I'm only speaking f what I heard on the 5.3'

The wife's 15 Tahoe has 50k on it & it's been fine. I'm sure if has the gas saver option.
The plug still fires however the exhaust lifter doesn't open trapping the exhaust gas and then the intake doesn't open which allows the exhaust gas act as a spring to assist the piston movement. This is done with solenoid unlike old motors that used oil pressure. If there are issues with the motor i haven't heard of any, i have 100 k on my 6.2 which has the same system. I was just checking to see if i was missing something.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:31 PM   #107
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Last truck was a F-150 with the 5.4. Really good engine with no problems. Then I bought my Tundra with the 5.7. Love this thing. Tons of power, runs great. Between the two, no competition, Tundra wins every time.

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Old 06-13-2018, 03:29 PM   #108
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The plug still fires however the exhaust lifter doesn't open trapping the exhaust gas and then the intake doesn't open which allows the exhaust gas act as a spring to assist the piston movement. This is done with solenoid unlike old motors that used oil pressure. If there are issues with the motor i haven't heard of any, i have 100 k on my 6.2 which has the same system. I was just checking to see if i was missing something.
I honestly couldn't tell you other than what I have seen & really didn't pay much attn to on the camaro6 forum...there seems to be an agreement that AFM (active fuel management) systems in general can cause problems at around the 50k-60k range right when wnty falls off, but I personally don't have any personal experience. My mechanic has said he sees it as well, & I'll ask when I'm in next week for the oil change how he feels it ties together.

Like I said, our 2015 5.3 Tahoe at only 50k hasn't missed a beat & I do think it has AFM??

My old company 2011 6.0 Chevy went 335k before the trans went out & doubt it had it with the crap mileage...not sure if my new replacement 5.0 F150 has afm??

For sure the 2017 6.2 LT4 Camaro doesn't offer AFM.

I have to think some of these fuel saving systems can't be all that good for longevity...I despise the auto shut off at stops in the F150. I deactivate that deal as right after crank up. Stupid option to put on a truck.
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Old 06-13-2018, 04:00 PM   #109
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Man, y'all got me looking at diesels today. lol

So Cummins, Powerstroke or Duramax?

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Old 06-13-2018, 04:11 PM   #110
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Man, y'all got me looking at diesels today. lol

So Cummins, Powerstroke or Duramax?

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Again, pick whatís wrapped around the engine. They are all plenty capable.

When I rented a drive them all the Cummins had the best fuel mileage by far.


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Old 06-13-2018, 04:22 PM   #111
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Another thing I've noticed is that if you do look at a newer half ton, they've gone a different route with the gearing. Instead of say 3.73 or 4.10 with a 6 speed, now its an 8 or 10 speed and most of what you find on the lot will have 3.31, 3.42, etc. The extra gears are supposed to make up for it, but after driving a couple newer ones, there is a difference in feel. Lots of shifting and less oomph off the line IMO.
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Old 06-13-2018, 04:24 PM   #112
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I've been impressed with 10 speed in the F150 so far...you should see it in GM's truck line across the spectrum soon. I think they launched it in the High Country.
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Old 06-13-2018, 04:33 PM   #113
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I like my 5.3.

Had a 2002 z71 5.3 and it seemed to have more power then my recent trucks.

Also had a 2015 4x4 5.3 (not z71) and it consistently got 17.6mpg. Donated to Harvey.

Currently in a 2018 z71 5.3 and get 15.2mpg.

Stock size tires on all.

Its hard to judge MPG unless everyone includes tire size and transmission info. 4x2 vs 4x4 makes a big difference. Even z71 vs typical 4x4 has made more of a difference then I expected.

I will say, Im not sure I like the V8 to V4 switch. You can definitely feel it lag sometimes. Im sure it makes a difference in the gas mileage game though.
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Old 06-13-2018, 04:46 PM   #114
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Your opening even more issues with epa regulated diesels. Key word is epa regulated...


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Man, y'all got me looking at diesels today. lol

So Cummins, Powerstroke or Duramax?

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Old 06-13-2018, 04:48 PM   #115
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I'm just kidding about a diesel. Would definitely go that route if I had the need for one.

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Old 06-13-2018, 04:50 PM   #116
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Tundra 5.7 with tow pkg (4.30 gears) 2wd getting 15.5mpg lifetime. That's pretty dang good for a big V8 and low gears. It's a modern motor - aluminum block 32 valve overhead.

The 5.0 Ford is smaller but has a bit more new technology & gets almost as much power from much less size, which is why gas mileage is better.

I think Chevy & Dodge are still rocking the pushrod V8. Old tech, but easier to work on by yourself if you're so inclined. I'm not.

I think Ford has the best motor right now, but I'm driving my Toyota til it drops
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Old 06-13-2018, 05:00 PM   #117
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So I looked today. My FILs Tundra has a 175K on it. Only this he has done powertrain wise is change air filters. Itís doesnít lead a pampered life, and regularly pulls a tractor and small planter.


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Old 06-15-2018, 03:13 PM   #118
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So Cummins, Powerstroke or Duramax?

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Nissan Cummins powered, kinda like a heavy half ton and 10-15 k. Cheaper than Chevy, dodge and ford.
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:50 PM   #119
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Hemi, all day long.
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:57 PM   #120
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I like my 6.2 ford well. We have made many trips to the coast pulling the RV.
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Old 06-15-2018, 05:20 PM   #121
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GM 5.3 at 23-24 mpg city and up to 27 hwy
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Old 06-15-2018, 07:33 PM   #122
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GM 5.3 at 23-24 mpg city and up to 27 hwy


Maybe if you drive like a grandpa Jeffy.


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Old 06-16-2018, 12:21 AM   #123
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Not in ours. We did have slightly bigger tires, but not 3mpg less bigger. If you get 16 I would hold onto that truck.

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Agreed! That's a keeper. We're on our second 5.7 and it's 13-14mpg without a trailer.
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Old 06-16-2018, 06:47 AM   #124
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I like my 5.3.

Had a 2002 z71 5.3 and it seemed to have more power then my recent trucks.

Also had a 2015 4x4 5.3 (not z71) and it consistently got 17.6mpg. Donated to Harvey.

Currently in a 2018 z71 5.3 and get 15.2mpg.

Stock size tires on all.

Its hard to judge MPG unless everyone includes tire size and transmission info. 4x2 vs 4x4 makes a big difference. Even z71 vs typical 4x4 has made more of a difference then I expected.

I will say, Im not sure I like the V8 to V4 switch. You can definitely feel it lag sometimes. Im sure it makes a difference in the gas mileage game though.
I still have my 2002 Z71 and I feel the same way! Had a 2013 F250 6.2l and compared to my 2002 it was a slug! Maybe not in raw power, but off the line and acceleration my 2002 was way quicker ( I know, its lighter ). Just bought a 2014 Z71 and it is not as sluggish as the F250 but still less pep than the 2002.
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