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Old 09-19-2019, 05:09 PM   #1
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Colt announced they will no longer sell AR15s to civilians. But it has ďabsolutely nothingĒ to do with recent media attacks on the AR15.

Pretty bad when firearms manufacturers turn into liberal POSís.

Just wondering if theyíll get the same treatment as dicks sporting goods or?

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Old 09-19-2019, 05:21 PM   #2
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Colt announced they will no longer sell AR15s to civilians. But it has ďabsolutely nothingĒ to do with recent media attacks on the AR15.

Pretty bad when firearms manufacturers turn into liberal POSís.

Just wondering if theyíll get the same treatment as dicks sporting goods or?
I wonder how much of their AR-15 market is to Civilians?
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:21 PM   #3
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Colt announced they will no longer sell AR15s to civilians. But it has ďabsolutely nothingĒ to do with recent media attacks on the AR15.

Pretty bad when firearms manufacturers turn into liberal POSís.

Just wondering if theyíll get the same treatment as dicks sporting goods or?
Need to look further into that. They are not making AR-15 any longer.
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Need to look further into that. They are not making AR-15 any longer.


Make/sell. Tomato/tomato
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https://discussions.texasbowhunter.c...highlight=colt

Colts always gave civi's the scraps
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The media is trying to spin it as a reaction to political pressure or the company “ getting woke.” Colt has not even hinted at that, mentioning nothing about shootings - they said “we believe there is an adequate supply of modern sporting rifles in the market for the foreseeable future” sounds to me like a business decision to at least temporarily back out of a flooded market
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:35 PM   #8
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They are only stopping production to the civilian market because there is nobody to BUY THEM. Warehouse are packed. Orders are filled, well into the future. The market is saturated with AR’s, of every make and model. Those people on here trying to sell their “custom” bushmaster for $1000+, there is a reason nobody even sniffs at it.

It blows my mind how people just look for a reason to start bashing a company and spread misinformation.

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Old 09-19-2019, 05:36 PM   #9
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Colt made the m4 I used in the Army. I doubt they need civilian sales to keep them floating. Maybe the saturated ar market has something to do with it.
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I wonder how much of their AR-15 market is to Civilians?
All of their AR15s were for the civilian market.. the M series is for the military.

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They release a public statement that theyíre no longer manufacturing the most hated gun by the left, but itís not political? Come on fellas!

Colt didnít just become
Over priced in 2019, even though they have a ďproperly staked castle nutĒ
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Official word from colt https://www.colt.com/news/2630

My guess is they will be back once they catch up.

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Just came across the local news as "breaking news"

"The AR 15 is the gun of choice for mass shooters" smh
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They release a public statement that they’re no longer manufacturing the most hated gun by the left, but it’s not political? Come on fellas!

Colt didn’t just become
Over priced in 2019, even though they have a “properly staked castle nut”
What does Colt stand to win by pandering to the left? Just curious.
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Official word from colt https://www.colt.com/news/2630

My guess is they will be back once they catch up.

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Thank you for posting that. Direct from Colt.
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Just came across the local news as "breaking news"

"The AR 15 is the gun of choice for mass shooters" smh
And imagine this. Story over ISIS came right after and they didn't condemn ISIS as bad as they did the "murderous AR 15"
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What does Colt stand to win by pandering to the left? Just curious.


Enormous government contracts approved by democrats and spineless republicans?
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I call BS on their reasoning and public statement.

They are located in Connecticut and have been experiencing increasing pressure from the left. They are trying to pander to the left without pissing off everyone else.

I’ll help them catch up on their manufacturing by never buying another Colt product!
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Thank you for posting that. Direct from Coltís marketing and legal team.


I fixed it.
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I may be wrong but Colt and Smith and Wesson have both done this in the past when they get big government contracts and they have surplus. It’s just about conducting business. Why make guns to put on retailers shelves when you have a contract to produce x amount in a certain time guaranteed $$$. I agree the market is flooded right now
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They already have those contracts.
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If they werenít selling any rifles then what exactly is the point of issuing a public statement that theyíre no longer building them?
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I call BS on their reasoning and public statement.

They are located in Connecticut and have been experiencing increasing pressure from the left. They are trying to pander to the left without pissing off everyone else.

Iíll help them catch up on their manufacturing by never buying another Colt product!
So you think they should continue pumping product into an over saturated market - losing money in the process- just to stay on the right side of some percentage of gun advocates?
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If they weren’t selling any rifles then what exactly is the point of issuing a public statement that they’re no longer building them?
What public statement did they issue?
Looks like an FYI e-mail to a distributor got spun by the liberal media and people like you into something it wasn't. Way to go. The screen name WashingtonPost isn't taken-- maybe you should consider it.
Colt only issued a statement today, in response to articles going back over a week.

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Everything I read was from today, Including the statement on colts website. Sorry I didnít track that email down.

It sounds like people like you refuse to believe a company engaged in government contracts, (a company who lost all its contracts in 2013) could possibly bend to political pressure and spin it as an unprofitable business.

Itís ironic that the company who has been making this rifle longer than anyone canít make a better value for consumers. Maybe they deserve to go bankrupt.
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Oh goodness.
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This is at least the third thread on this... If y'all would go to the PACE and read there, it would save you from posting the exact same thing over and over...
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So you think they should continue pumping product into an over saturated market - losing money in the process- just to stay on the right side of some percentage of gun advocates?
So there is no market? Really?

The only argument to be made is they can’t compete in the market.
That would be more believable.

It was a calculated PR move to appease the political pressure they have been facing.

And yes they probably should have calculated that gun advocates are there market base.

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This is at least the third thread on this... If y'all would go to the PACE and read there, it would save you from posting the exact same thing over and over...
I hadn’t seen it. Are they just not manufacturing them anymore?
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Didn’t t everyone say the same thing in the 90’s when they stoped selling to the civilian market completely?
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Everything I read was from today, Including the statement on colts website. Sorry I didnít track that email down.

It sounds like people like you refuse to believe a company engaged in government contracts, (a company who lost all its contracts in 2013) could possibly bend to political pressure and spin it as an unprofitable business.

Itís ironic that the company who has been making this rifle longer than anyone canít make a better value for consumers. Maybe they deserve to go bankrupt.

It took me all of three minutes to track that down with the worldís most popular search engine. Itís not hard if youíre interested in the real story. If you just want hype for people to click on itís probably impossible, but I wouldnít know. I donít refuse to believe anythingó I just donít buy everything I see on the internet.
Maybe look up what irony means.
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I call BS on their reasoning and public statement.

They are located in Connecticut and have been experiencing increasing pressure from the left. They are trying to pander to the left without pissing off everyone else.

Iíll help them catch up on their manufacturing by never buying another Colt product!


Perfect! Leaves more for the rest of us.

Maybe some of you should stop believing everything thatís spoon fed by the media and look into things yourself.

Thereís already 2 or 3 other threads on here alone.


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Everything I read was from today, Including the statement on colts website. Sorry I didnít track that email down.

It sounds like people like you refuse to believe a company engaged in government contracts, (a company who lost all its contracts in 2013) could possibly bend to political pressure and spin it as an unprofitable business.

Itís ironic that the company who has been making this rifle longer than anyone canít make a better value for consumers. Maybe they deserve to go bankrupt.


They refuse to sacrifice quality to satisfy the cheap *** buyers out there.

Good for them.


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It took me all of three minutes to track that down with the worldís most popular search engine. Itís not hard if youíre interested in the real story. If you just want hype for people to click on itís probably impossible, but I wouldnít know. I donít refuse to believe anythingó I just donít buy everything I see on the internet.
Maybe look up what irony means.


timing apparently means absolutely nothing in your world. I guess some people will believe anything written by a marketing department that doesnít want to lose business.

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The last two I bought were over $2,000. Quality isnít the problem. There are plenty of high dollar ARs out there. Dozens of manufacturers, but the Original AR15 manufacturer says itís no longer viable? I donít see it. Itís not like tooling up for AR15 vs M4 is dramatically different.

Colt has struggled financially before this happened and they won and lost government contracts in the past. When you have retired generals talking about fully semi automatic rifles designed for the battlefield not belonging in the hands of citizens, itís not a stretch to think some agreement was made for colt to continue to get government contracts.

There are plenty of people in government and the military that donít think like you and I regarding guns.

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This isn't the first time Colt has done something similar. It has nothing to do with politics.
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The last two I bought were over $2,000. Quality isnít the problem. There are plenty of high dollar ARs out there. Dozens of manufacturers, but the Original AR15 manufacturer says itís no longer viable? I donít see it. Itís not like tooling up for AR15 vs M4 is dramatically different.

Colt has struggled financially before this happened and they won and lost government contracts in the past. When you have retired generals talking about fully semi automatic rifles designed for the battlefield not belonging in the hands of citizens, itís not a stretch to think some agreement was made for colt to continue to get government contracts.

There are plenty of people in government and the military that donít think like you and I regarding guns.


So we should expect Sig and FN to announce any day now that they are no longer selling to civilians?
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Colt announced they will no longer sell AR15s to civilians. But it has ďabsolutely nothingĒ to do with recent media attacks on the AR15.

Pretty bad when firearms manufacturers turn into liberal POSís.

Just wondering if theyíll get the same treatment as dicks sporting goods or?
how how would they get teh same treatment????? what else do they sale
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this isn't the first time colt has done something similar. It has nothing to do with politics.
but i need something to be mad about!!!
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Colt is like every other AR-15 manufacturer, sucking wind. Prices are so low that they can't make money. As easy as it is to criticize Colt for other stuff, this isn't legitimate.
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The article I read said they needed the production space to fill government contracts they have and will be making them for the public again soon...

It was a non news story from the stuff I read, just journalists twisting something into a shock value
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Where did they say it was temporary?

https://www.colt.com/news/2630
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It's not political. It's been years since anyone I know around here has bought a new Colt rifle. They can't compete with the market. Colt would have ceased to exist a long time ago if it weren't for military contracts, and have filed at least once for reorganization, i believe. Some of the reasons for their poor performance in the civilian market are, union labor, high tax area, spoiled by government contracts. Hate to see their business shrinking, but it is what it is.
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Where did they say it was temporary?

https://www.colt.com/news/2630
"Currently, these high-volume contracts are absorbing all of Coltís manufacturing capacity for rifles."


"we believe it is good sense to follow consumer demand and to adjust as market dynamics change"
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I am outraged by everything!!!

This is no different.
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Enormous government contracts approved by democrats and spineless republicans?
Bingo
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If it is truly a supply and demand issue, they are still stupid for announcing it right now. Bad business move. Slow production a bit and keep it silent for a while rather than say “we are no longer producing civilian ARs” in the middle of the push for a ban on these rifles.
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Colt AR15’s have been over priced junk for the last 20+ years. They lost most US mil contracts and their civi sales dropped. The serpent revolvers were the last guns they made worth owning.
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I think the OP is reading too much into the political fodder of the current times instead of using common business sense. This product has flooded the market. They are overstocked and it does not make them money to continue to make and sell the gun. Its pretty straight forward. Have you emailed Colt to see if they are a liberal or conservative gun manufacturer and if that weighed in on this decision? Or are you just shooting from the hip about how you feel about it?
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