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Old 07-03-2018, 09:53 PM   #1
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Default I bought an air-rifle - Hadn't owned one in a long time.

Bass Pro Shops had a Daisy 1101WS Air Rifle - 177 Cal Pellets, Wood Stock, with scope - on sale for Fathers Day for $50.

By the time I got there, they were sold out. Don't know how many they had, but they didn't last long.

Cabelas had the same rifle sitting on the shelf the next day, not on sale. But since they are owned by Bass Pro Shops now.... I asked if they would match the sale. "Absolutely" was the answer.

This thing is heavy for a pellet gun. Not complaining - just commenting that it is heavier than i expected. Also a lot more powerful than I'm used to in a pellet gun. I haven't chrono'd the exact speed, but they claim 1100 fps. I was only testing it at 10 yards, but I put the first two pellets completely through an airgun box target, 3 cardboard shipping boxes, and into a piece of wood before I realized it was blowing through all the cardboard.

Neat little rifle for $50. I've never owned a break-barrel spring-piston air rifle before. Kinda neat!

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Old 07-03-2018, 09:58 PM   #2
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Bass Pro Shops had a Daisy 1101WS Air Rifle - 177 Cal Pellets, Wood Stock, with scope - on sale for Fathers Day for $50.

By the time I got there, they were sold out. Don't know how many they had, but they didn't last long.

Cabelas had the same rifle sitting on the shelf the next day, not on sale. But since they are owned by Bass Pro Shops now.... I asked if they would match the sale. "Absolutely" was the answer.

This thing is heavy for a pellet gun. Not complaining - just commenting that it is heavier than i expected. Also a lot more powerful than I'm used to in a pellet gun. I haven't chrono'd the exact speed, but they claim 1100 fps. I was only testing it at 10 yards, but I put the first two pellets completely through an airgun box target, 3 cardboard shipping boxes, and into a piece of wood before I realized it was blowing through all the cardboard.

Neat little rifle for $50. I've never owned a break-barrel spring-piston air rifle before. Kinda neat!

All the best,
Glenn
They are fun, I caught one on sale at Dicks around Christmas and like you, didnít realize how powerful they are.
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Old 07-03-2018, 10:18 PM   #3
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Buddy of mine was having squirrel problems and bought a gammo and brought it out to the lease and that thing was impressive for a break barrel for sure. I have been tossing around the idea of having one for fun or one of the ones you pre charge with air but havent pulled the trigger on coughing up the coin yet


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Old 07-04-2018, 10:05 AM   #4
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They can be amazingly accurate. I see yours came with a scope, if you want to change to a better/different scope, you'll need to stay with one that is made specifically for air guns - Gamo makes some decent ones that are decently priced. With the right pellets, it's no trick to put pellets through the same hole at 10 meters. Whatever you do, don't dry fire the thing. You can cause serious/permanent damage by doing so.

Have fun, you got a great deal on yours.

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Old 07-04-2018, 10:59 AM   #5
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They can be amazingly accurate. I see yours came with a scope, if you want to change to a better/different scope, you'll need to stay with one that is made specifically for air guns - Gamo makes some decent ones that are decently priced. With the right pellets, it's no trick to put pellets through the same hole at 10 meters. Whatever you do, don't dry fire the thing. You can cause serious/permanent damage by doing so.

Have fun, you got a great deal on yours.

Regards,

Dave
Thanks for the advice Dave. I had heard something similar to that a while back (have to use a scope designed for an air rifle), but I didn't own one at the time, so I didn't look into it. I'm actually enjoying using the regular sights for a change. It's close distance, and for some reason, I can see these just fine. Maybe it's because of where they are located on the barrel (rear sight is about middle of the rifle, vice all the way to the back of the receiver) - but I can get a good proper sight picture just fine with these. I haven't been able to do that with my centerfire / rimfire rifles for many years. Of course, I'm shooting at much longer distances with those too. That may be the case if I try to use these sights at a longer distance. Keeping the scope off it for the time being. That may change later.

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Old 07-04-2018, 02:42 PM   #6
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had a beman 22 cal break barrel,, that one was stupid accurate with the heavy pellets,, holding about1.5" at 75 yards,,, the light pellets would only do about 6" at 50 yards ( had fun trying to hit turtles in the pond)
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Old 07-06-2018, 12:32 PM   #7
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Own several pcp and break barrel. They are addictive. Own .177cal up to .45cal.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:43 PM   #8
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How is that Air Force? I've looked at them for years.
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Old 07-06-2018, 05:39 PM   #9
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How is that Air Force? I've looked at them for years.
Itís my newest one. I will hopefully have it scoped this weekend and start sighting it in.
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Old 07-06-2018, 08:02 PM   #10
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I keep looking at these but my 22 marlin bolt action with angulia rounds is super quite and will thump the tree rats how much harder do these hit ??
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Itís my newest one. I will hopefully have it scoped this weekend and start sighting it in.
Do a report on it please!
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Old 07-08-2018, 03:01 PM   #12
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I keep looking at these but my 22 marlin bolt action with angulia rounds is super quite and will thump the tree rats how much harder do these hit ??
I don't know. It's not really a comparison I was doing. I was more looking at the cost vs payoff when comparing this to a .22LR. Vice "replacing" - I was just adding another piece to my collection that does a different job.

I don't know what Aguila .22 ammo you are using. But we can do a quick comparison on cost. I'm assuming you are talking about Colibri or Super Colibri rounds, since you mentioned super quiet.

Colibri is a 20 grain bullet at 420 fps
Super Colibri is a 20 grain bullet at 590 fps
Either one is about $5 for 50 rounds
Add the cost of your .22 Marlin bolt action.

I'm shooting .177 cal, 7.8 (Gamo website) / 8.5 (Cabelas website) grain (I threw away the card that came with them, so I'm not sure) Gamo Tomahawk Pellets at 1100 fps muzzle velocity (not measured yet)

I paid $9.99 for a pack of 750.
My rifle cost $50.

So for $60 plus tax, I am able to put pellets in tree rats 750 times at a pretty good velocity.
That's what I was exited about.

The sound of this rifle does not sound like a rifle going off. It's weird sounding. I guess it's the spring action. It's more of a "Pomft!" than a crack.

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Old 07-08-2018, 05:21 PM   #13
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Do a report on it please!
I will when I get a chance. I have shot some others and liked them enough to buy one.
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:28 PM   #14
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I don't know. It's not really a comparison I was doing. I was more looking at the cost vs payoff when comparing this to a .22LR. Vice "replacing" - I was just adding another piece to my collection that does a different job.

I don't know what Aguila .22 ammo you are using. But we can do a quick comparison on cost. I'm assuming you are talking about Colibri or Super Colibri rounds, since you mentioned super quiet.

Colibri is a 20 grain bullet at 420 fps
Super Colibri is a 20 grain bullet at 590 fps
Either one is about $5 for 50 rounds
Add the cost of your .22 Marlin bolt action.

I'm shooting .177 cal, 7.8 (Gamo website) / 8.5 (Cabelas website) grain (I threw away the card that came with them, so I'm not sure) Gamo Tomahawk Pellets at 1100 fps muzzle velocity (not measured yet)

I paid $9.99 for a pack of 750.
My rifle cost $50.

So for $60 plus tax, I am able to put pellets in tree rats 750 times at a pretty good velocity.
That's what I was exited about.

The sound of this rifle does not sound like a rifle going off. It's weird sounding. I guess it's the spring action. It's more of a "Pomft!" than a crack.

All the best,
Glenn
Glenn, you will get MUCH better accuracy out of that gun if you shoot much heavier pellets out of it. IF and it is a big IF it shoots 1100 fps, it won't be very accurate. Dibolo pellets are unstable at that velocity and especially the .177 cal. and that light weight. If you use something like these H&N round nose pellets, I think you'll be very satisfied with them and their accuracy. Your gun should still be lethal at 40 yards or so and a lot more accurate.

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/H_N_B..._Nose_400ct/16

This is a good link too for buying your ammo (and a lot of other stuff for air guns) too. They run a special that gives you one free tin of pellets for very 4 you buy and they ship quickly.
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Old 07-09-2018, 09:18 PM   #15
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Glenn, you will get MUCH better accuracy out of that gun if you shoot much heavier pellets out of it. IF and it is a big IF it shoots 1100 fps, it won't be very accurate. Dibolo pellets are unstable at that velocity and especially the .177 cal. and that light weight. If you use something like these H&N round nose pellets, I think you'll be very satisfied with them and their accuracy. Your gun should still be lethal at 40 yards or so and a lot more accurate.

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/H_N_B..._Nose_400ct/16

This is a good link too for buying your ammo (and a lot of other stuff for air guns) too. They run a special that gives you one free tin of pellets for very 4 you buy and they ship quickly.


I realize this is junk in the level you play with air guns, but I received a Ruger air hawk for Christmas one year. Would I be better with these heavier pellets as well?


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Old 07-09-2018, 10:50 PM   #16
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Glenn, you will get MUCH better accuracy out of that gun if you shoot much heavier pellets out of it. IF and it is a big IF it shoots 1100 fps, it won't be very accurate. Dibolo pellets are unstable at that velocity and especially the .177 cal. and that light weight. If you use something like these H&N round nose pellets, I think you'll be very satisfied with them and their accuracy. Your gun should still be lethal at 40 yards or so and a lot more accurate.

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/H_N_B..._Nose_400ct/16

This is a good link too for buying your ammo (and a lot of other stuff for air guns) too. They run a special that gives you one free tin of pellets for very 4 you buy and they ship quickly.
Thank you!
All the best,
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I realize this is junk in the level you play with air guns, but I received a Ruger air hawk for Christmas one year. Would I be better with these heavier pellets as well?


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Ain't nuthin' wrong that Ruger... If you have a chrony, shoot over it and see what kind of speed you are getting. If you are high 900's or higher, yes, heavier pellets would help you probably with stability. One thing you can do is get on that Pyramid air web site and search for "pellet sampler". they have a couple different JSB assortments in different calibers that you can buy that will give you about 25-30 pellets of similar profiles that are different weights. Start with the lightest ones and shoot them off the bench. Shoot at 30 yards or beyond to see which ones group best. That's a good place to start.
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