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Old 11-14-2015, 03:15 PM   #1
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Will be used for WT as well

These options are on the shelf

Mosdberg Patriot w/ accu trigger
Savage Axis
AR10 in .308
AR15 in 5.56/.223

My concern with the .223 is the 65 grain bullet
AR10 is heavy

Which caliber

.243
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6.5 creedmoor
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Old 11-14-2015, 03:34 PM   #2
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Definitely go with the .30-07...
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Not many people know about the 30-07, some great improvements were made that year....too bad it's always been somewhat of a wildcat...

Seriously, any of those will do it but all will be running out of steam at that range.

Also, based on your bolt action budget, you'll be hard pressed to find an AR in that budget to shoot accurately...IMO. You're really asking a lot of those bolt guns as well for 700 yards.

I'd also look at a mod 700 ADL or Sav Mod 10 Predator with the accu-stock.
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Definitely go with the .30-30 and 7mm mag

It's a cross between the 30-06 and 7mm Mag ;-)
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With your bolt action budget look for a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 creedmore. Should be 500 dollars or less, high BC factory ammo is available at a reasonable price and should have the energy needed out to 800 yards. Most reviews I have been reading people have been getting less than 1 moa groups. Several videos on you tube taking 6.5 creedmoor out for long range shooting.
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Old 11-14-2015, 04:31 PM   #6
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With your bolt action budget look for a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 creedmore. Should be 500 dollars or less, high BC factory ammo is available at a reasonable price and should have the energy needed out to 800 yards. Most reviews I have been reading people have been getting less than 1 moa groups. Several videos on you tube taking 6.5 creedmoor out for long range shooting.

For a budget gun, I think this is as close as you are gonna get to meeting your needs
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With your bolt action budget look for a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 creedmore. Should be 500 dollars or less, high BC factory ammo is available at a reasonable price and should have the energy needed out to 800 yards. Most reviews I have been reading people have been getting less than 1 moa groups. Several videos on you tube taking 6.5 creedmoor out for long range shooting.

Long range shooting and long range killing are two totally different things. 700 yards is right on the edge of where reliable killing is for certain.
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Old 12-29-2015, 09:09 PM   #8
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Long range shooting and long range killing are two totally different things. 700 yards is right on the edge of where reliable killing is for certain.
Yeah, same here, I would never shoot at an animal at 700 yards; too much risk of a wound and a suffering animal running away. If I'm not 100% sure of a bangflop, I don't take the shot.
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7mm ultramag
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Old 11-14-2015, 04:10 PM   #11
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Old 11-14-2015, 04:14 PM   #12
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2nd on the 6.5. It's a deadly round.
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Old 11-14-2015, 04:18 PM   #13
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This is for sale in the classifieds right now...Winchester 300wsm for sale or trade
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Old 11-14-2015, 04:25 PM   #14
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:22 PM   #16
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6.5 Grendel in an AR type rifle
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6.5 Grendel in an AR type rifle
This what I am planning to go with.

If not, it's hard to beat the .308 for accuracy out to 600 yards.
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This what I am planning to go with.



If not, it's hard to beat the .308 for accuracy out to 600 yards.

Any 6.5
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Before I opened the thread, the thought I had was '308', so, that. Maybe in one of the bolt guns if you're not into the AR.
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Can you put the accu trigger on a Savage?
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:59 PM   #22
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Can you put the accu trigger on a Savage?
Savage is the originator of this trigger. It's the standard on all the Savages for last several years.

You cannot retrofit an accu-trigger onto a "pre" model without extensive knowledge and experience work.
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Old 11-15-2015, 04:58 AM   #23
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Can you put the accu trigger on a Savage?
For $90 and ten minutes worth of work you can add a rifle basix sav-1 trigger to any savage or axis.

It's a nice trigger once you get it adjusted to your liking
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6.5 Grendel is one bad round . Watch a few utube videos , and you will see the light .lol .
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So I have a lead in a couple of deals
One is a Mossberg patriot in 300 win mag

One is a Savage axis in 30-07:-)

Or a 7mm mag
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.338 lapua! If the hog came out at 10 yards I would wait till he got a little further out though. Lol
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If you're shooting hogs at 700 yards, why are you concerned with the weight of the rifle?
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6.5 CM really shines at long range with the high BC bullets.
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Savage Axis in 25.06 gets my vote
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Saving up for a 6.5 Creedmore AR for this purpose.
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For a 700 yard gun you need at least 1/2 MOA and a DANG good scope and range finder for the options listed. I would look at a 7 mm mag as the minimum and 300 WSM or 300 WM as you best options, or cut back to 500 yards and all the above are still good choices.
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For all you guys saying anything in a short action even the 6.5 Creed which seems to be other-worldly, I can't see it.

They will all punch paper much farther than that.

I'm shooting a very high BC 168 grain 7 mag at 3050 fps and consider 7-800 yards it's absolute max. Reason being-Impact velocity. Most bullet manufacture's list 1800 fps as their minimum velocity for reliable expansion...there's no way you can convince me of a 6.5 creed maintaining this...

But what do I know, I've never shot an animal beyond 450...

Additionally, I agree with a post above, you need a .5 MOA rifle out to expected distance and high quality glass to repeatedly do it.
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For all you guys saying anything in a short action even the 6.5 Creed which seems to be other-worldly, I can't see it.

They will all punch paper much farther than that.

I'm shooting a very high BC 168 grain 7 mag at 3050 fps and consider 7-800 yards it's absolute max. Reason being-Impact velocity. Most bullet manufacture's list 1800 fps as their minimum velocity for reliable expansion...there's no way you can convince me of a 6.5 creed maintaining this...

But what do I know, I've never shot an animal beyond 450...

Additionally, I agree with a post above, you need a .5 MOA rifle out to expected distance and high quality glass to repeatedly do it.

Swap to a Berger. It has a lower working range.
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Swap to a Berger. It has a lower working range.
Long range hunting bullets:
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=568690

Hey Ragin, First off Merry Christmas!!!

I know you from some of my other threads.
Everyone says you're extremely knowledgeable about Broadheads. Which I am insanely jealous of btw

I take your comments seriously just like I do muddyfuzzys' when it come to arrow building.


The thread I linked to recommends to stay away from Berbers...
I'm in the hunt or a 300WM or 300WSM. See my previous post
So all this blah blah blah to ask u this? Will you expound on your answer?

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Hey Ragin, First off Merry Christmas!!!

I know you from some of my other threads.
Everyone says you're extremely knowledgeable about Broadheads. Which I am insanely jealous of btw

I take your comments seriously just like I do muddyfuzzys' when it come to arrow building.


The thread I linked to recommends to stay away from Berbers...
I'm in the hunt or a 300WM or 300WSM. See my previous post
So all this blah blah blah to ask u this? Will you expound on your answer?

You can find bad experiences with any bullet. But majority results speak for themselves. The deal with Berger is you need the right twist and the ogive on that bullet likes to be closer to the rifling. But like Mike D posted in this thread Long range hunting bullets
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=568690 There are more. Personally I like Swifts! I'm not the biggest Barnes fan in the world for whitetail sized critters. That's based on my experiences with em. Which I hated because my 270 shot a 5 shot .293 with em.

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You can find bad experiences with any bullet. But majority results speak for themselves. The deal with Berger is you need the right twist and the ogive on that bullet likes to be closer to the rifling. But like Mike D posted in this thread Long range hunting bullets
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=568690 There are more. Personally I like Swifts! I'm not the biggest Barnes fan in the world for whitetail sized critters. That's based on my experiences with em. Which I hated because my 270 shot a 5 shot .293 with em.

What's a good twist rate? Rifle I'm looking at Saturday has a 1:10 per MFR website...

Not sure what ogive is. I'm guessing it's a typo
Unfortunately I don't know that much about rifles and bullets yet to be able to cypher it
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Swap to a Berger. It has a lower working range.
That's what I'm shooting now. Very high bc, insanely accurate and are stone cold killers. My only concern is a lack of blood trail if you happen to get an animal to run more than 20 yards.
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That's what I'm shooting now. Very high bc, insanely accurate and are stone cold killers. My only concern is a lack of blood trail if you happen to get an animal to run more than 20 yards.

Not getting an exit?
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Carrying or truck gun?

Personally, the Ruger Gunsite Scout looks like one helluva hog gun to me.
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Have you ever shot 700 yards? Your mentioning guns that would be some of the absolute worst choices if somebody wanted to shoot 700 yards.

Also what's your budget? An ar in 308 is way different price range than the other guns you are mentioning.
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Have you ever shot 700 yards? Your mentioning guns that would be some of the absolute worst choices if somebody wanted to shoot 700 yards.
Yep. A 223? Sorry, at 700 yards you could almost hold out your hand and catch the bullet, not to mention even a slight breeze blowing it 20 feet off target at that range.

Personally I don't think any self-respecting sportsman would try to take an animal at 700 yards, because there's too high a probability of wounding. No animal deserves to suffer, and it's the hunter's ethical responsibility to ensure a quick, clean kill. If you're not 100% sure you can do that, don't pull the trigger.

Not trying to throw the tread off-topic, but just the observation that you're even considering a .223 for 700 yard hog shots leads me to believe that you're a little on the naive side. Nothing wrong with that, either - we all started somewhere, and TBH is a good place to learn. Like, no hard feelings, OK?

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Yep. A 223? Sorry, at 700 yards you could almost hold out your hand and catch the bullet, not to mention even a slight breeze blowing it 20 feet off target at that range.

Personally I don't think any self-respecting sportsman would try to take an animal at 700 yards, because there's too high a probability of wounding. No animal deserves to suffer, and it's the hunter's ethical responsibility to ensure a quick, clean kill. If you're not 100% sure you can do that, don't pull the trigger.

Not trying to throw the tread off-topic, but just the observation that you're even considering a .223 for 700 yard hog shots leads me to believe that you're a little on the naive side. Nothing wrong with that, either - we all started somewhere, and TBH is a good place to learn. Like, no hard feelings, OK?
Absolutely 0 hard feelings Ruark,

Not considering a .223 for a 700 yard hunting shot any longer. Paper or steel maybe.
In the Corps we shoot 500 yds with iron sights to qualify with the M16, 23 years ago.
It got me thinking it might be a viable option at that range.
But after further research I decided the risk of poor shot placement and poor penetration wasn't worth it.

So I purchased a Savage 12VLP chambered in .300 WSM instead.
I'd like to develop a load 200 gn ELD -X or Berger VLD at 3000 fps. Not sure if it's possible.
I'm not a reloader so I don't know where to start. I read a post that someone was shooting a VLD at 3050 with RL25. Forget the bullet.

I'll hunt with my AR out to 150 -200 tops, depending on how well it likes 62-65 grain ammo. I'm thinking Hog Hammer or 55 gn vmax.
It's only a 1:9 twist but I can upgrade it later

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Old 11-23-2015, 02:47 PM   #46
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Ruger American or Mossberg Patriot in either 30-06 or .308 will so the job! but I hear that 30-07 is a stomper! hehe
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I've shot 500 yds prone with iron sights in the Corps with the M16A1.

The bulk of my shots should 200 or less.
We have one setup on the lease that's 650 yds from camp. Thought it'd be cool to sit in camp and lay waste to some pigs at 0300 I'm my pajamas.

The lease mgr used to build and shoot long range guns.

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Old 11-23-2015, 07:16 PM   #48
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Found a new Remington 700 in 7mm mag with a 26" barrel for $377 with a cheap 3-9 scope
Would this work
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Found a new Remington 700 in 7mm mag with a 26" barrel for $377 with a cheap 3-9 scope
Would this work
Just remember in a light, standard style 700, that 7mag is gonna hit you hard. I had one in a heavy stainless ruger hawkeye and it was hard on the body. Needless to say I got rid of it.
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