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Old 02-05-2018, 07:02 PM   #1801
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I think and hope so. I dream of Fiddy.... You understand.

By the way, i just saw where you asked about Dads season. for the first time in ..i dont remember when, we didnt get it done for dad. Ill type that story up in the next few days.
I do understand. I’ve got a buck I’ve been after for 2 years now and every time I go back and look at trail cam pics of this season it makes me lament how slowly the next 8 months will go by.


I hate to hear that for your dad. Hopefully next season is different for the both of you (and me).

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Old 02-06-2018, 12:04 PM   #1802
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Dads Quest For Kicker3

Before season this past year, Dad picked a deer to hunt. I was thrilled he picked Kicker3 as I know his entire life story. For years, I had this main frame 9 that always threw a kicker off his left G3. He never amounted to much and at five, I decided to let a kid kill him for his first buck. Well long story short(er), the kid missed him.. He was about 110 inch deer and he needed to go.

That fall was our first time to hammer the food plots on that particular place with chicken manure and his antlers were already done before it was in the vegetation. To my great surprise, he took the first big jump of his life from 5-6 years old and went to a typical ten with much longer tines and better mass! He improved from his stagnant 110 inches to close to 140 in one year. The fact that he wasnt an inferior deer but had been nutrient deprived hit me like a hammer! What a learning experience.

We had hammered the food plots again so I put him off limits even though he was six and a darn nice deer. He owned one of my corn piles most of the season but was absolutely opposed to having his picture taken at a feeder. Nov 18th rolled around and an 8 year old 8pt that had been missing since Oct came home. A serious battle for the corn pile ensued and left Kicker3 missing his left eyeball. I named the old 8 EyePopper and we went after him. Lil David whacked him eventually and he is posted in this thread. Kicker3s entire head got infected and swelled up. i couldnt decide whether to kill him or not as I was afraid he would die. He didnt and eventually started looking better around January.

I was really looking forward to seeing him this year and was surprised when he threw a big blade off his left base(above the blind eye) that had a couple points off it! For the first time in his life he threw a 6x5 frame with the big hooked blade having two extras on it. Also for the first time in his adult life, he didnt have the signature kicker off his g3. What a cool deer he was at seven years old and I had tried to let him go as a cull at 5!

Dad decided he wasnt going to bowhunt this year. K3 stayed regular all through Oct and I figured we would get him killed as soon as rifle season opened. I sat with dad opening morning and we had K3 there when it got legal shooting light but Dads eyes just couldnt be sure of the shot. He rolled in right at last light that evening with the same result. repeat this story for SIX CONSECUTIVE HUNTS! Dad could sense my frustration. We has a perfect rest for the gun and the deer was coming out of two different trails one at 100yds and the other about 210yds. I started gently urging him to take the next shot opportunity.

Thanksgiving day, we sat again. Tons of deer out including a nice four year old 8pt when it started getting dusk. I was watching the trail when the 8 threw his head up , looked into the brush and bolted. I knew he was coming. Seconds later a high horned stud walked out of k3s trail. I knew it was him even though ID light was low. I told Dad to shoot him. Just as he was about to shoot, the deer bolted across the food plot to the edge of the brush. I told dad I was going to stop him and I did.

Dad shot. At the impact, the deer whirled and ran back across the 20yd wide food plot. He looked humped up and I told Dad I was pretty sure the deer was hit. Dad said he should be shoulder shot as he had followed a leg up and shot because he was having trouble seeing the crosshairs against the deers body.

(To be continued later)

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Old 02-06-2018, 02:15 PM   #1803
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Old 02-06-2018, 03:44 PM   #1804
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..... I got the truck and we drove up to were the deer ran across the road. Immediately, I saw paunch contents strewn through the road and food plot. He was almost broad side with just a tiny bit quartering away. Paunch contents was a bad sign. We marked the trail and headed home to eat super and give him a while.

I recruited Sam and came back at 8pm. At first it was just guts but after a 100yds or so, he started bleeding pretty good. We trailed him until 10pm and half a mile before finding the first bed. It was obvious we had jumped him there. we gave him a little while and then pushed ahead slowly. 30yds and another bed. Sam, Dad , and I all agreed we had to back out. Dad was exhausted and Sam had to leave for work soon so I recruited Lil David. I wanted to wait until daybreak but Dad was just sick and said the coyotes would have the deer cleaned up by then. I agreed to go back and we picked the trail up again around midnight. The deer made a straight line to a pond and watered before taking another line across my sanctuary. Around 2am we made a lose and I called it for the night.

As soon as the sun was up, we hit it again. I brought Lil David and Aaron with me while dad sat at the truck. He was tired and couldnt sleep. We searched an hour or so before Aaron found a spot of blood on an unsuspected route. We were on him again! I have to shorted this saga so i will just skip ahead some. We found the buck around 1230 over 2 miles of tracking. To my amazement, it was a SPIKE BUCK! Three inch polished horns! we drug him to an old road and went back for dad. he thanked us for trying so long and we told him that we had found his deer. he refused to believe he shot a spike as he could see high horns on him. it was in fact a spike though that was shot right at the bottom of his belly and had a gaping hole on each side. We tagged him up and got him on ice pretty quick.

Now for the puzzle.. That big stud came out and was obviously mature. I could see he had big horns. Heck he ran a 4 year old eight point off yet there was no doubt we trailed the deer he shot. Two weeks went by without a pic of Kicker3. Finally, I got a couple of pics of him about 1am. he looked like death warmed over! He couldnt walk on his left front leg and had a gaping exit wound in front of his other shoulder. The picture became clear.... the reason Kicker3 dashed across was to chase a spike off that was about to come out. dad shot him low and slightly forward. the bullet exited and struck the spike that we had not seen. Likely K3 went straight into the brush while the spike ran across.

Dad was just sick and we were pretty sure coyotes would kill him or else the shot would really hinder him into the Spring. Neither was the case. he continued to eat corn every night and by January, had gained back almost all of his weight. the holes healed up in record time and he doesnt even show a limp! Dad was totally uninterested in shooting another buck the rest of the season even though we had some other darn nice bucks coming.

Kicker3 looks fantastic now. He shed his horns Friday and I still cant freakn find them! One thing is for sure... Dad has his deer picked for next year!
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Old 02-06-2018, 03:48 PM   #1805
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That K3 sure has been to hell and back! Blind in one eye, survived being shot. That is one tough SOB


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Old 02-06-2018, 03:58 PM   #1806
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That K3 sure has been to hell and back! Blind in one eye, survived being shot. That is one tough SOB


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Yeah and missed two years ago by a kid.
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Old 02-06-2018, 03:59 PM   #1807
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Lucky and tough. He's a beautiful buck, hope y'all get him this year.


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Old 02-06-2018, 04:04 PM   #1808
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Wow. That is a story worth reading.
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Old 02-06-2018, 04:06 PM   #1809
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Man, I hope he makes it so your dad can close the deal on him!! What an awesome buck! Ol' K3 is gonna be your dad's "fiddy"... Maybe y'all can double up next year during bow season before they split up out of their bachelor groups...
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Old 02-06-2018, 04:09 PM   #1810
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Wow. That is a story worth reading.
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Old 02-06-2018, 04:14 PM   #1811
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Wow. That is a story worth reading.
Yeah... i hated to tell the story. I know i was pushing him to take a shot he wasnt comfortable with. He just dont see as well as he once did. Of course i will never forget trailing a gut shot spike for 16 hours. At least the kids learned a ton about blood trailing.

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Old 02-06-2018, 04:24 PM   #1812
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Man, I hope he makes it so your dad can close the deal on him!! What an awesome buck! Ol' K3 is gonna be your dad's "fiddy"... Maybe y'all can double up next year during bow season before they split up out of their bachelor groups...
That sure may happen. K3 is a real home body and hangs around pretty close all year. I have seen him many time but NEVER at a feeder. I can pile corn 25yds from a feeder and he will live in it but he AINT going to the feeder.
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Old 02-06-2018, 04:34 PM   #1813
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Yeah... i hated to tell the story. I know i was pushing him to take a shot he want comfortable with. He just dont see as well as he once did. Of course i will never forget trailing a gut shot spike for 16 hours. At least the kids learned a ton about blood trailing.
Happens to everyone at some point. No problem with a well told story!
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Old 02-06-2018, 04:47 PM   #1814
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That’s crazy. Hope he show up next season.


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Old 02-06-2018, 04:49 PM   #1815
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If he is like normal, i will watch him all summer.
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Old 02-06-2018, 06:27 PM   #1816
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What a story! Cant wait to see how this continues to play out.

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Old 02-06-2018, 06:47 PM   #1817
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No kidding. I would post a couple of our three and four year olds that have been well fed all their lives but.... I better not.
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Old 02-06-2018, 06:47 PM   #1818
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Good story. Maybe next year
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:01 PM   #1819
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I am quick to say I don't believe in luck, I believe in odds, and I believe certain hunter's conciusly increase their odds of success through disclaplined action. Additionally certain hunters increase their odds by simply maximizing their time in the woods. Steve is the intersection of these two factors and historicaly the odds prevail to his or his family/guests success. All that said after following Steve and his Dad this season I can honestly say that I am starting to believe in luck or rather that extreme improbability can prevail. In this case I am calling K3 and Fiddy the benefactors of improbability prevailing, and if nature and God's will gives one or both of those deer another year I am absolutely confident that a bullet will be 1" to the right on K3 and Fiddy will be 5 steps closer and never hear the arrow release, time will tell but I know the odds are not in those two bucks favor.


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Old 02-07-2018, 12:19 AM   #1820
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Crazy story, Steve...I sure hate that your Pops didn't get Kicker3 this year, hopefully he'll hang around and y'all will get redemption next year
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I am quick to say I don't believe in luck, I believe in odds, and I believe certain hunter's conciusly increase their odds of success through disclaplined action. Additionally certain hunters increase their odds by simply maximizing their time in the woods. Steve is the intersection of these two factors and historicaly the odds prevail to his or his family/guests success. All that said after following Steve and his Dad this season I can honestly say that I am starting to believe in luck or rather that extreme improbability can prevail. In this case I am calling K3 and Fiddy the benefactors of improbability prevailing, and if nature and God's will gives one or both of those deer another year I am absolutely confident that a bullet will be 1" to the right on K3 and Fiddy will be 5 steps closer and never hear the arrow release, time will tell but I know the odds are not in those two bucks favor.


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Thats a heck of a compliment coming from the hardest working deer hunter I know. Thanks Justin.
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Old 02-07-2018, 10:13 AM   #1822
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I know the feeling of not being able to find sheds. I searched high and low for sheds of a deer I killed 2 years ago. Walked all over the areas he hung out and not one. Not from him or any other deer for that matter. We just cant find them
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I am quick to say I don't believe in luck, I believe in odds, and I believe certain hunter's conciusly increase their odds of success through disclaplined action. Additionally certain hunters increase their odds by simply maximizing their time in the woods. Steve is the intersection of these two factors and historicaly the odds prevail to his or his family/guests success. All that said after following Steve and his Dad this season I can honestly say that I am starting to believe in luck or rather that extreme improbability can prevail. In this case I am calling K3 and Fiddy the benefactors of improbability prevailing, and if nature and God's will gives one or both of those deer another year I am absolutely confident that a bullet will be 1" to the right on K3 and Fiddy will be 5 steps closer and never hear the arrow release, time will tell but I know the odds are not in those two bucks favor.


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I know the feeling of not being able to find sheds. I searched high and low for sheds of a deer I killed 2 years ago. Walked all over the areas he hung out and not one. Not from him or any other deer for that matter. We just cant find them
It's **** hard to find sheds in east TX period.
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Old 02-07-2018, 04:31 PM   #1825
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I generally find a few sheds in my food plots every year. I have at least one of K3s sheds from years past. they cant be far!

Justin, im thinking you may have to kill Fiddy for me if Babyten does what i think he is going to do this year!
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I generally find a few sheds in my food plots every year. I have at least one of K3s sheds from years past. they cant be far!



Justin, im thinking you may have to kill Fiddy for me if Babyten does what i think he is going to do this year!

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LOL! You sure are grinning in that Ganchos pic.
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I finally got around to pulling cameras down today. Fiddy was only missing for a few days. He made it through and shed his horns Feb15.
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:50 PM   #1829
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Cool, you find any sheds this year?
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:52 PM   #1830
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I finally got around to pulling cameras down today. Fiddy was only missing for a few days. He made it through and shed his horns Feb15.
I cant wait to see what he will do next season. He is sure to consume a fellas brain.
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I finally got around to pulling cameras down today. Fiddy was only missing for a few days. He made it through and shed his horns Feb15.
Good deal! Hopefully he gets even bigger for ya
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I cant wait to see what he will do next season. He is sure to consume a fellas brain.
Im all giddy about three deer this summer.
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Im pretty sure I saw K3 saturday. Looks like his mass will be heavier than last year. Got something freaky going on off his left base again too. Ill give him another month and then see if i can get a few pics.
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i gotta admit, fiddy has gotten on my nerves. if he lives another year, garguy, you will take his place on my nerves haha.
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i gotta admit, fiddy has gotten on my nerves. if he lives another year, garguy, you will take his place on my nerves haha.
If it gets too bad, just put me on your ignore list. i know Fiddy made it though winter he turned 8 about two weeks ago i guess. We will see what he does.
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Eight???? Wow, now that is serious for East Texas!!!! Hey, any fish shooting going on. Jillian is home...….lol!!!
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I was glad to see something with some horn this weekend also.
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If it gets too bad, just put me on your ignore list. i know Fiddy made it though winter he turned 8 about two weeks ago i guess. We will see what he does.
yeah i guess that couldve seemed a serious response. if you want him i hope you get him. if not, i hope to see his pics as a 9 year old. either way, i like the thread. thanks for it. God bless!
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18 short weeks as of Saturday!
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If you followed my posts last year, you know a deer I called Fiddy just destroyed most of my season. He will be one off three target deer this year so I want to lay out a few of the mistakes and trials of hunting him.

The spot is one of the best sanctuaries I have ever hunted. Every year there are generally several monsters that show up. That is until we had two years of consecutive 100 year floods that ran all the deer out of there. Last year they returned! I recognized several mature deer that I had presumed dead but suddenly there was a GIANT 8pt on camera. I told before how he got his name of Fiddy.

Now Fiddy was crazy regular and the majority of his pics were in daylight. He was eating in a short panel pen where I piled out vanilla hand corn every three days. I have hunted the spot for years and hand it fine tuned. Loc on stand 30ft high and 18yds from the pen.. perfect cover for entrance and exit on the right winds. I showed the pics to Jooger and instantly he recognized the deer as one we called Pretty Boy. Pretty Boy was super regular for years but dropped off the map at four years old and it had been three years since I had seen him. It was definately him though although and I couldnt believe I hadnt realized it I just left his new name in place. Now I knew he was a seven yr old for sure.

This deer was going to be easy. He never missed a day through sept and often was on camera within an hour of me corning the spot. Bow season rolled around and as soon as the wind was right, I was there. Buck after buck showed but no Fiddy. I hunted every time conditions were perfect and passed a crazy bunch of bucks. I had a few sightings as he strolled through 70yds out but he never came to the corn even though I had pics of him there every dang day that I wasnt in the stand! If i hunted a morning and not the evening, he would be on camera for two hours that evening. Skip a morning and yep he was there till 10am. I wasnt busting the deer out but it was absolutely obvious that he knew when I was there.

That fact hurt my pride as I had the perfect approach and could get in with zero exposure except the base of my tree. I tried parking in a different spot, I tried getting dropped off, I tried another crazy extreme approach. I got in the stand at 3am by moon light and stayed till dark. Same result! This continued all of the month of Oct. Now keep in mind that ii am seeing deer every hunt and some dang nice mature deer. None of them ever busted me. One day in early November, a fresh front blew in. Stiff North west wind kicked in about 10am. Fiddy was often on camera late morning and mid afternoon so I decided to get in there at 11 and hunt the rest of the day.

As I sneaked up to the stand. I saw a small 8pt bedded in the feed pen. The wind was blowing an covered my movement but I had to expose myself to walk the next ten yds and climb the tree. I did. He jumped up and ran South, running right past a small group of young ash draped in vines. As he passed,, Fiddy stood up! 51yds on my range finder. He was standing in the vines looking the way that small buck went and had no clue I was there. I admit I considered the shot but the wind was howling and vines on his kill zone. I watched him for ten minutes through binos and got the shakes. He was so much bigger than I even thought he was. this was by far the best look I had so far. After a while, he just walked away the direction the small buck went and I noticed he all but disappeared in the vines. I hunted the rest of the day but he never came in although the small 8 came back and stayed all evening.

Frustration was compounded. I couldnt sleep at night. The next day, I went to look the situation over. I walked to where he was bedded and was amazed at what I saw. The drape of vines on those small trees were almost like a tent blind. Underneath, the ground was clean and packed where Fiddy had been laying for a month. the spot was perfect. He could sneak in there from South through a virtual tunnel of vines. he could lay there and watch the feed pen while totally concealed. The added kicker was, he could see me climb that tree every time and either sneak away or just lay there 40yds from me without me having a clue! This had to change. Desperate times called for desperate measures.

I went home and loaded my skid steer up. Yep, i bulldozed his little honey hole. I also built a 8ft high pile of dirt with a ramp on the back side. I put a tent blind on top and covered it with river cane. I knew he would still be checking my tree and I could now get in and out totally concealed. FIDDY DID NOT LIKE THAT! the other bucks instantly adjusted but Fiddy went MIA. A month went by with no Fiddy pics and I feared him dead. Then two days in a row he was there at 1pm.

The rest off the saga is pretty much posted here as he came and went the rest of the season. He finally settled back in in January after I killed a seven plus yr old I called LowBeam. Fiddy shed his horns on Valentines day. He is my number one target this year. He will be 8 this year and I cant wait to get a camera running so I can see what he looks like. I dream of him.. he consumes my thoughts. I have the absolute perfect setup ready to kill him. God I love this game...

To be continued this fall, Steve

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Old 07-13-2018, 03:18 PM   #1841
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Good read GG. He will slip up, stay after him. I look forward to seeing a tailgate pic.
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Old 07-13-2018, 03:19 PM   #1842
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Get EM' GG!
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Thanks for your stories there's education was they are fun to read

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Old 07-13-2018, 03:42 PM   #1844
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I'm in for the hunt!! Can't wait!
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Old 07-13-2018, 03:48 PM   #1845
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Sat and watched you the entire time. Smart suckers!!!!
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Old 07-13-2018, 03:58 PM   #1846
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In for this season, best of luck GG!
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Old 07-14-2018, 12:15 PM   #1847
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Sat and watched you the entire time. Smart suckers!!!!
Yeah, he probably sat up there so he could moniter the corn pile and it just happened that he could see me climb the tree. this happens a lot when i corn in core areas. The most mature buck will set up close. Sometimes they will start laying up right in the corn pile to guard it.
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Old 07-15-2018, 08:45 AM   #1848
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Good luck, hope he’s in there when you run your cameras
I feel like that deer I hunted last year did the same. He would come in right when i left and always on south wind when i couldn’t hunt.


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Old 07-15-2018, 01:56 PM   #1849
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I believe I will go ahead and put my money on you this year........................

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Old 07-15-2018, 02:35 PM   #1850
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Yeah, he probably sat up there so he could moniter the corn pile and it just happened that he could see me climb the tree. this happens a lot when i corn in core areas. The most mature buck will set up close. Sometimes they will start laying up right in the corn pile to guard it.


This is the exact same problem I started having last year. I took your advice and had several spots I was corning but every single time I went into any of them I’d never see a deer. Then I would check my cameras about every four weeks and I’d see them at the corn almost every day until it was gone. I finally figured out they were bedding within about 20-30 yds from the pile and practically living there. Apparently any time I’d go into there they’d just walk away. I never busted deer out going in, I just wouldn’t see them. I had to abandon that idea and just start trying to figure out their routes to and fro.


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