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That trap had 1.5" of rain on it and it still went off. Liking the 550's more every day.
What do you use for pan covers. Kinda cool how that works I wasn't expecting anything yesterday

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Dollar store paper towels are hard to beat, now for some folks with fumblefingers, not so much, but it's what I've used for years, either that or fiberfill under the pan, mostly depends on which one comes up first from the bottom of my junkb---uh trap bag.
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Female down in a sheep pasture.

Liking the 550's more every day.
Good Work BT!

Those 550 O.S Traps are the ticket!
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What do you use for pan covers. Kinda cool how that works I wasn't expecting anything yesterday

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I use the wax hamburger paper squares. Perfect size


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Dollar store paper towels are hard to beat, now for some folks with fumblefingers, not so much, but it's what I've used for years, either that or fiberfill under the pan, mostly depends on which one comes up first from the bottom of my junkb---uh trap bag.
I quit using that stuff hahah

Never did care for fiber fill. I still use foam for some pan tension on my bridgers

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Old 11-10-2017, 03:19 PM   #107
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Who'da thunk that I'm the cheapo here.
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Hey fellas,

I have the newer 550ís with the stronger springs. (I believe they switched over to the stronger springs four or five years ago.)

The pan tension is pretty high even after dipping in FMJ. Most are tripping at 4Ĺ-5+ pounds.

Iíve made no adjustments to my traps as far as pan tension is concerned. They seem to do well, although I believe I tend to miss some coyotes because of the higher pan tension. On the other hand, I miss a lot of coons for the same reason.

Maybe there's another contributing factor to the misses, as even the lightweight coyotes are enough to set the trap off in most cases.

I really donít want to start bending dogs, or filing night latches in order to drop the pan tension, but I would if I thought I could pick up more coyotes and still avoid the coons.

Whatís yíalls take on this?
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Man if I was only running for coyotes I would leave it where it was at. The man thay taught me alot while with the government said he liked 7# also since your not able to catch or shoot cats I'd leave them right where they are

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I don't file in nightlatches but I do like a good sharp edge on my dog with a good squared notch on the pan notch. You don't give up patch tension but when the dog releases theres no creep just a sudden release of pan tension. You will have do some bending on some traps after you get them filed.
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Hey fellas,

I have the newer 550ís with the stronger springs. (I believe they switched over to the stronger springs four or five years ago.)

The pan tension is pretty high even after dipping in FMJ. Most are tripping at 4Ĺ-5+ pounds.

Iíve made no adjustments to my traps as far as pan tension is concerned. They seem to do well, although I believe I tend to miss some coyotes because of the higher pan tension. On the other hand, I miss a lot of coons for the same reason.

Maybe there's another contributing factor to the misses, as even the lightweight coyotes are enough to set the trap off in most cases.

I really donít want to start bending dogs, or filing night latches in order to drop the pan tension, but I would if I thought I could pick up more coyotes and still avoid the coons.



Whatís yíalls take on this?
I do bend the dogs slightly on all mine. Pan tension just seemed too high for my liking. I do go after reds too and I think it was too high for them. If only going after coyotes your probably fine.
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I don't file in nightlatches but I do like a good sharp edge on my dog with a good squared notch on the pan notch. You don't give up patch tension but when the dog releases theres no creep just a sudden release of pan tension. You will have do some bending on some traps after you get them filed.
4K I really like MBís night latch.

With the latch being so small, if there's any creep, I canít detect it.

Iíve only had one toe catch out of 48 coyotes; and I think that MBís night latch is one of the reasons why.

I still smile every time I hear that sharp "click".
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Yea! I had forgot about the mb's, that's basically what I do with the other traps but no second notch. When you bring the pan against the dog it should dead level, then when the weight hits the pan it's a very crisp drop. Can't stand to move a pan and see and feel the dog dragging out of a rounded notch.
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I do bend the dogs slightly on all mine. Pan tension just seemed too high for my liking.

I do go after reds too and I think it was too high for them.

If only going after coyotes your probably fine.
That's the feeling I got as well BT.

I think the tension increased even more after the traps had been in the ground several days. I tested a few (that I was pulling up), which had been buried for four or five days; and it left little doubt as to why they didnít go off when a coyote stepped on the pan. I think the soil/sand conditions are compounding the problem. It made me wonder just how many coyotes I have actually missed because of this.

The slightest amount of moisture seems to make the loose sand the trap is bedded in become hardened enough to stick together inside the jaws of the trap. I discovered this when I pulled up unfired traps, and the sand stayed with the trap when I unearthed it.

What Iíve also discovered is that sand gets packed up under the 550ís pan in the area where the dog latches, and I believe that might account for higher tensions leading to misses as well. Maybe a little extra poly shoved under the pan just below the dog would remedy this.

If you guys have experienced these same conditions, Iíd like to hear how you dealt with them.
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I use the foam that they use to fix chairs it's 1" thick an works great for that

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If only going after coyotes your probably fine.

You guys are right.

I guess I should leave well enough alone, but I can't stand missing one knowing I might have been able to prevent it.

It's like having a coyote come to the call, then shooting over his back.

The last thing I want to do is educate them.
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Old 11-10-2017, 07:43 PM   #117
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I haven't messed with traps for a couple of years but any that have the steel bolt/nut will get stiffer when they're set out, rust-sand-silt, etc. loves in there. When I get new traps I replace those with brass, it at least it stops the corrosion issues and brass seems to move a little free-er than the steel.
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That's the feeling I got as well BT.

I think the tension increased even more after the traps had been in the ground several days. I tested a few (that I was pulling up), which had been buried for four or five days; and it left little doubt as to why they didnít go off when a coyote stepped on the pan. I think the soil/sand conditions are compounding the problem. It made me wonder just how many coyotes I have actually missed because of this.

The slightest amount of moisture seems to make the loose sand the trap is bedded in become hardened enough to stick together inside the jaws of the trap. I discovered this when I pulled up unfired traps, and the sand stayed with the trap when I unearthed it.

What Iíve also discovered is that sand gets packed up under the 550ís pan in the area where the dog latches, and I believe that might account for higher tensions leading to misses as well. Maybe a little extra poly shoved under the pan just below the dog would remedy this.

If you guys have experienced these same conditions, Iíd like to hear how you dealt with them.
I think you should bend them just slightly. I forgot about the sand you trap in, it definitely gets in there. You can always take the bend out if you don't like it.
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Old 11-10-2017, 09:41 PM   #119
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Who'da thunk that I'm the cheapo here.
https://www.amazon.com/UltraSource-H...42_QL70_&dpSrc

1000 sets for $10.49 sounds cheap to me.
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Hey man! Thanks for trying to make me feel better.
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:49 PM   #121
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This giy was vocal lol he was letting me know he was upset an embarrassed lol. He slipped up. I think this is the coyote that was barlokg at me the other day lol. Barking at me while setting a trap is not wise hahaaha
I tried some grab an doe sticks thay Wayne Derrick talks about an man it worked

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Old 11-18-2017, 11:47 PM   #122
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Old 11-19-2017, 11:09 AM   #123
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Nice looking dog and cat!


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Old 11-21-2017, 07:40 AM   #124
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Made a little order last night, going to try and catch a few yotes at the house between now and end of Jan.

Probably try some calling too
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Old 11-21-2017, 10:34 AM   #125
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Another yesterday that's 7 pups in this area

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Old 11-21-2017, 10:45 AM   #126
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Looking forward to this weekend. Gonna run a short line at my deer lease. Iíve got 15 footholds Iím gonna put out for coyotes, bobcats and grey fox, plus a bunch of DPís and conibears for coon. And Iím gonna try that bait set idea where I dump a deer carcass in a kind of restricted area and guard it with snares and footholds. How high off the ground do yíall typically set your snares for West Texas yotes? Iíve put snares up for them on crawl under a before but not really in the open.


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Caught a couple last nite. They must be on the move.


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I started and caught a yote on the first night. Domestic dog droppings do the trick.
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I put out 9 footholds and a couple dog proofs at lunch today at my hunting lease. An example of one of my dirt hole sets.




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I was able to get a few traps out on Thanksgiving day.

Ten sets produced three coyotes Friday morning.

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Got a lil corn thief/turkey killer this morning.




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James, how are you anchoring traps?

Earth anchors or stakes?

What is your setup between trap and anchor?

I have some drags but I would like to try anchors so I don't have to hunt trap and critter

Anybody else feel free to chime in too, just noticed in TUCO's pics that they were anchored
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Ten sets produced three coyotes Friday morning.

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James, how are you anchoring traps?

Earth anchors or stakes?

What is your setup between trap and anchor?

I have some drags but I would like to try anchors so I don't have to hunt trap and critter

Anybody else feel free to chime in too, just noticed in TUCO's pics that they were anchored
I build my own but I would think earth anchors of any kind would work for you. I used drags for 40 years and switched to anchors a year or so ago. I like them very well aside from the fact that everyone that comes by see's your catch before you do.
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Swivels?

Shock springs?

How much length between trap and anchor?

That is more the info I was looking for

Curious how you make your own too
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Heard this guy get caught while I was in my deer stand. Kind of sounded like a rabbit in distress to be honest.




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Shock springs?

How much length between trap and anchor?

That is more the info I was looking for

Curious how you make your own too
I will get some pics tomorrow of my setup. I have a swivel at the trap and I think about 36" of chain that is welded to the earth anchor. Depending on the soil condition but usually 12" or more of the chain will me in the ground. The pics I get tomorrow will make it easier to understand .
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Earth anchors or stakes?

What is your setup between trap and anchor?
MB Chain Stakes, Crunch Proof Swivels, & 6 Gauge Rivets.

No shock springs.

I will post up a photo of the setup tomorrow BT.

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You will need a puller to get them out of the ground too.


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Poor fox had a rough time

Got his neck in a snare and his foot in a trap

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I will get some pics tomorrow of my setup. I have a swivel at the trap and I think about 36" of chain that is welded to the earth anchor. Depending on the soil condition but usually 12" or more of the chain will me in the ground. The pics I get tomorrow will make it easier to understand .
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MB Chain Stakes, Crunch Proof Swivels, & 6 Gauge Rivets.

No shock springs.

I will post up a photo of the setup tomorrow BT.

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I had eighteen traps fishing last night.

Two coyotes took a ride in the Polaris on this morning's check.

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This afternoon I was lucky enough to snag a big set-shy male on a blind trail set during the heat of the day.

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Here are the sets that caught the two coyotes from the previous post.


Bait & Lure at this set.

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That is more the info I was looking for

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Your chain is longer then mine lol.
What stakes are those BT?

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Old 11-26-2017, 06:37 PM   #148
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Thanks for posting pics

No shock spring?


James do you not use something like a stick on your blind sets to get critter to step in trap?
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Old 11-26-2017, 07:49 PM   #149
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Thanks for posting pics

No shock spring?


James do you not use something like a stick on your blind sets to get critter to step in trap?

I don't use a shock spring.
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Old 11-26-2017, 08:11 PM   #150
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I don't use shock springs either. To me just another expense

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