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      Originally posted by systemnt View Post
      What is the keto flu?

      headaches? (like after a night of drinking alcohol with little to no water/electrolyte replenishment)

      gastrointestinal?

      Some describe it as flu like symptoms, lethargic, headaches but without the fever.

      I've never experienced it and I've gone off and on with it over the years. My body adapts very well to a low carb (less 10-15 total, not net) high fat diet.



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        Originally posted by icetrauma View Post
        Did you take any supplements? I use Potassium and Magnesium daily to help avoid what you described.
        I did not. The supplements do decrease the risk, but the increased adrenaline can cause issues. I have other issues creating this, but since I've stopped the keto diet, Ive only had a couple arrhythmias. They aren't constant like before.

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          Anyone on a Ketogenic Diet?

          Originally posted by MisterSanders View Post
          I did not. The supplements do decrease the risk, but the increased adrenaline can cause issues. I have other issues creating this, but since I've stopped the keto diet, Ive only had a couple arrhythmias. They aren't constant like before.


          Adrenaline tends to be an issue with some people with intermittent fasting as well. I had no problems with that diet over 11 months, just couldn't get my daily schedule to fit within the eating time frames. My work schedule can sometimes end up with 10-11 hours without eating, sometimes that's in the morning and it's not a problem, sometimes that's in the afternoon and I'm miserable/shaky all day. A few people I know on Keto have had improvement under those circumstances.


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            My wife started on a ketogenic diet years before I met her to help maintain her low body fat while lifting. It enabled her to get into a state of ketosis that she still maintains to this day. It's mildly infuriating for her to tell me that she feels "puffy" and needs to lose 5 pounds and then watch her do it over the course of a week just by adjusting her intake of certain things.


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              Originally posted by Junkers88 View Post
              My wife started on a ketogenic diet years before I met her to help maintain her low body fat while lifting. It enabled her to get into a state of ketosis that she still maintains to this day. It's mildly infuriating for her to tell me that she feels "puffy" and needs to lose 5 pounds and then watch her do it over the course of a week just by adjusting her intake of certain things.





              Richard.


              How long has she been on the keto diet?


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                Originally posted by IkemanTX View Post
                How long has she been on the keto diet?


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                She's been athletic and nutrition minded for +20 years, started keto right around 10 years ago. We've only been together for 7.


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                  Well I have done Atkins before and had great results. I lost over 30 lbs in a month doing that and exercising. Plus I even quit copenhagen at the same time. That was over ten years ago and I have now gotten back to being way to heavy. Mostly due to the fact I moved to an office job and working long hours yet eating way too much of anything I wanted. I am now starting again and will look at this closely and see how it goes. It seems many of you are pretty fit and using this to get cut. Myself I am looking at just burning off the fat.
                  So my starting weight is 460 lbs. Lets see how it goes.

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                    Not a fan of fad diets. Calories in versus calories out. Period.

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                      Originally posted by denimdeerslayer View Post
                      Well I have done Atkins before and had great results. I lost over 30 lbs in a month doing that and exercising. Plus I even quit copenhagen at the same time. That was over ten years ago and I have now gotten back to being way to heavy. Mostly due to the fact I moved to an office job and working long hours yet eating way too much of anything I wanted. I am now starting again and will look at this closely and see how it goes. It seems many of you are pretty fit and using this to get cut. Myself I am looking at just burning off the fat.
                      So my starting weight is 460 lbs. Lets see how it goes.
                      Just a walk in park for ya. Your results will be awesome.

                      Originally posted by Chase This! View Post
                      Not a fan of fad diets. Calories in versus calories out. Period.

                      Yeah me to, except this diet was started in the 1920's for epilepsy. I would not call a diet that has been around for 90 yrs a fad.

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                        Originally posted by Chase This! View Post
                        Not a fan of fad diets. Calories in versus calories out. Period.
                        And if you go by calories in vs out, what does it matter rather you eat low fat vs low carb as long as IIFYM?

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                          Originally posted by Chase This! View Post
                          Not a fan of fad diets. Calories in versus calories out. Period.


                          You can't out work a horrible diet


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                            Originally posted by icetrauma View Post
                            Just a walk in park for ya. Your results will be awesome.




                            Yeah me to, except this diet was started in the 1920's for epilepsy. I would not call a diet that has been around for 90 yrs a fad.
                            It wasn't a weight loss diet then. The diet has been around though... marketed by different folks as something new so money can be made. Evidence of its success is touted but hard to find the negatives like bonking cause you accidentally ate some carbs, or headaches cause your body is not only in defecit, but imbalanced.

                            Like juicing, no fat, vegan, gluten free diets, it has been around but resurrected as fads that come and go, becuase they are difficult to sustain without (my opinion) genetic adaptation andvpeoole just look at one thing: weight loss, and the benefits that come with that.

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                              Originally posted by SwampRabbit View Post
                              It wasn't a weight loss diet then. The diet has been around though... marketed by different folks as something new so money can be made. Evidence of its success is touted but hard to find the negatives like bonking cause you accidentally ate some carbs, or headaches cause your body is not only in defecit, but imbalanced.

                              Like juicing, no fat, vegan, gluten free diets, it has been around but resurrected as fads that come and go, becuase they are difficult to sustain without (my opinion) genetic adaptation andvpeoole just look at one thing: weight loss, and the benefits that come with that.

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                              No it wasn't but just like many other medical finds, it is a positive effect of the diet. Just like Wellbutrin was a psych med that was found to curb smoking. And Viagra was 1st a cardiac med that was found to help men with ED.


                              Plus, it was the only real way to treat diabetes before the discovery of insulin.
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                                Originally posted by SwampRabbit View Post
                                It wasn't a weight loss diet then. The diet has been around though... marketed by different folks as something new so money can be made. Evidence of its success is touted but hard to find the negatives like bonking cause you accidentally ate some carbs, or headaches cause your body is not only in defecit, but imbalanced.

                                Like juicing, no fat, vegan, gluten free diets, it has been around but resurrected as fads that come and go, becuase they are difficult to sustain without (my opinion) genetic adaptation andvpeoole just look at one thing: weight loss, and the benefits that come with that.

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                                The weight loss is equally as important to me as the energy stabilization. Glucose dependent diets (even non "dieting" calorie levels) have always been less than ideal for me. Historically, If I miss my meal times by two hours or more, I have issues. Headaches, weak trembles, dizziness, fatigue... glucose crashes are a **tc*
                                This is an issue ketone based diets have been proven to help with.

                                If weight loss was the only goal, I would add 300 calories of extra cardio to my day.

                                I completely agree that all dietary changes work only as long as they are continually adhered to. I also agree that many people can not use many different dieting styles. Body styles, chemistry, and health levels are different from person to person. This particular diet was chosen from my previous comfort in the intermittent fasting program (hitting a state of ketosis intermittently) as well as an evaluation of how my own body has reacted to different energy sources over my lifetime. My DO. happens to agree with me on the decision. It's not a silver bullet, but it is something I am willing to try. If my body adapts well to it, it is also a diet I can do permanently very easily. Literally the only "food" I will miss is beer...


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