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Originally posted by duckmanep View PostSince you asked.... I still don't like the guy. We still don't have affordable healthcare, we still don't have a wall (I do not like the emergency declaration plan), we have more restrictions on guns with more to come likely before 2020, who knows where he will end up on the DACA situation. I would love to see someone primary him out, but know that will never happen.
My prediction is that his childish behavior and ego have put us in a position to lose 2020, just look at his approval rating, most people don't like him. Other repubs could have done a similar or better job, accomplished similar things, and won 2020 easily. He has the dems so fired up that we will see record dem turnout in 2020 if they put up any kind of decent candidate.
Flame away. Hope I'm here in 2020 eating crow.
Trump will win in 2020 and the Republicans will regain the house and keep the Senate. And those bags of crap Republicans in the house and Senate better produce. Trumps failures to this point have mainly been due to gutless Republicans. Sure his tweets suk, his off the cuff speeches are nothing to boast about but he is a proud American and we sure as hell need more of that from our elected officials.
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Originally posted by flywise View PostHs approval rating is great considering for 2.5 years the entire media establishment has made up fake news, perpetuated a fake Russian story and criticized every word the man has spoken.
Trump will win in 2020 and the Republicans will regain the house and keep the Senate. And those bags of crap Republicans in the house and Senate better produce. Trumps failures to this point have mainly been due to gutless Republicans. Sure his tweets suk, his off the cuff speeches are nothing to boast about but he is a proud American and we sure as hell need more of that from our elected officials.
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Originally posted by flywise View PostHs approval rating is great considering for 2.5 years the entire media establishment has made up fake news, perpetuated a fake Russian story and criticized every word the man has spoken.
Trump will win in 2020 and the Republicans will regain the house and keep the Senate. And those bags of crap Republicans in the house and Senate better produce. Trumps failures to this point have mainly been due to gutless Republicans. Sure his tweets suk, his off the cuff speeches are nothing to boast about but he is a proud American and we sure as hell need more of that from our elected officials.
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Originally posted by jer_james View PostThat's definitely part of the reason why - there are many more personal issues such as cheating and lying, and treating people with respect.
He would never be my friend. I dont associate with those type of people. And I'm proud of that.
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Originally posted by Shane View PostYou missed getting to vote for Reagan. He was the best president we've had in at least 100 years, if not all time. He was a champion for constitutional conservatism, which (to my surprise and unexpected pleasure) Trump has been so far as well. But Reagan did it with SO much more class and grace. He was great at being unifying. He definitely had his haters in the media and on the left, just like Trump and Cruz and every other conservative always has. But Reagan won the hearts of the folks in the middle who aren't hopelessly committed to the left. He did it by getting things done in a classy and respectful way. We could sure benefit from someone like that at the helm today. The tribal conflict and outright hatred that our society is consumed by today is not good. Not good at all. Trump thrives on it and feeds into it. I wish that were different about him. He's done some really good things that I am really happy about. If the election were today and he was the nominee again (which I expect he'll be), I'd definitely vote for him this time. But I'd still have to hold my nose in doing so. He's clearly the lesser of the two evils between him and whoever the Democrats end up nominating. But he still leaves a lot to be desired when we need to unite the country again after all the extreme and increasingly hateful and dangerous division. I don't know what the fix is for that, other than Jesus. I don't believe any politician can fix what is so broken in our society now. I'd sure like to see a president and a BIG part of Congress trying though. We don't have that now, and we haven't had it for a long time. Tribalism is fine as long as your tribe is in control. But it leads to retribution as soon as the other tribe gets control. I don't see that cycle ending well.
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Originally posted by Barrett View PostI don't think he will run.
Scorch him guys!!He's out hunting!!!! j/k
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Originally posted by Man View PostIf you totally disregard his current ratings, performance, achievements and the fact that he has made comments welcoming his presidential challengers ..... then that seems like a well thought out reply.
Scorch him guys!!He's out hunting!!!! j/k
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Originally posted by flywise View PostHs approval rating is great considering for 2.5 years the entire media establishment has made up fake news, perpetuated a fake Russian story and criticized every word the man has spoken.
Trump will win in 2020 and the Republicans will regain the house and keep the Senate. And those bags of crap Republicans in the house and Senate better produce. Trumps failures to this point have mainly been due to gutless Republicans. Sure his tweets suk, his off the cuff speeches are nothing to boast about but he is a proud American and we sure as hell need more of that from our elected officials.
just imagine how much more he could do if he got the media/gutless Reps support & royal azz kissing Obama got...
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I like the comparison to Reagan in just a little over 2 years as President and there is a reason for that (been hearing it a lot). Trump has taken a different Avenue to greatness than Reagan did but the end game is the same...the love of country and upholding the constitution as the core of his beliefs in leading this country. None of us here can disagree with that, it is our foundation on who we are as Americans. End of story. Go Trump!!!
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Originally posted by Shane View PostYou missed getting to vote for Reagan. He was the best president we've had in at least 100 years, if not all time. He was a champion for constitutional conservatism, which (to my surprise and unexpected pleasure) Trump has been so far as well. But Reagan did it with SO much more class and grace. He was great at being unifying. He definitely had his haters in the media and on the left, just like Trump and Cruz and every other conservative always has. But Reagan won the hearts of the folks in the middle who aren't hopelessly committed to the left. He did it by getting things done in a classy and respectful way. We could sure benefit from someone like that at the helm today. The tribal conflict and outright hatred that our society is consumed by today is not good. Not good at all. Trump thrives on it and feeds into it. I wish that were different about him. He's done some really good things that I am really happy about. If the election were today and he was the nominee again (which I expect he'll be), I'd definitely vote for him this time. But I'd still have to hold my nose in doing so. He's clearly the lesser of the two evils between him and whoever the Democrats end up nominating. But he still leaves a lot to be desired when we need to unite the country again after all the extreme and increasingly hateful and dangerous division. I don't know what the fix is for that, other than Jesus. I don't believe any politician can fix what is so broken in our society now. I'd sure like to see a president and a BIG part of Congress trying though. We don't have that now, and we haven't had it for a long time. Tribalism is fine as long as your tribe is in control. But it leads to retribution as soon as the other tribe gets control. I don't see that cycle ending well.
Well said!
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