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    Single Payer?? Are you kidding me?

    Well, I read where there is momentum gaining for the Dems to run on single payer in 2018. Medicare for everyone??? Do the American people really believe that completely turning over healthcare to the government is a good idea? Letting the government determine what doctor's can charge, since they will only pay so much (which will probably lead to doctor shortages), letting the government determine what procedures you can and cannot have, not to mention how this is going to be paid for. And what happens when you reach Social Security age when you are no longer an asset to the government (paying into SS) and become a liability (taking out SS). I am so tired of the Democrats pushing their radical agenda to look like the knight on the white horse protecting the downtrodden. There is one thing the Republicans could learn from the Democrats- how to fight for what they believe in. Come on GOP- grow a pair.

    #2
    They push for 100% in hopes of getting 25%. When they get it, most people sigh in relief and thank their lucky stars because it could've been worse. That's the insidious game they play because they know they will win.

    Hell, just ask Texansfan. He will spew for two weeks about how great it will be for him because he can make money from it. People like him are bought off from the outset. Signed, sealed, delivered. That's how it's done.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Livin'2hunt View Post
      They push for 100% in hopes of getting 25%. When they get it, most people sigh in relief and thank their lucky stars because it could've been worse. That's the insidious game they play because they know they will win.



      Hell, just ask Texansfan. He will spew for two weeks about how great it will be for him because he can make money from it. People like him are bought off from the outset. Signed, sealed, delivered. That's how it's done.


      If they'd cut people like his sorry *** off the payroll it would help lower our premiums. They leach needs to get out and find a real job instead of sucking off the ins companies. He will love it along with everyone else with their hand out looking for the gov to take care of them.

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        #4
        Half or more of the American people are ignorant of what single payer is and how terrible it will be. The dems can sell a cabin on the lava pits of hell to their base.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Russ79 View Post
          Well, I read where there is momentum gaining for the Dems to run on single payer in 2018. Medicare for everyone??? Do the American people really believe that completely turning over healthcare to the government is a good idea? Letting the government determine what doctor's can charge, since they will only pay so much (which will probably lead to doctor shortages), letting the government determine what procedures you can and cannot have, not to mention how this is going to be paid for. And what happens when you reach Social Security age when you are no longer an asset to the government (paying into SS) and become a liability (taking out SS). I am so tired of the Democrats pushing their radical agenda to look like the knight on the white horse protecting the downtrodden. There is one thing the Republicans could learn from the Democrats- how to fight for what they believe in. Come on GOP- grow a pair.
          Don't forget the hard working man will be standing in line behind a bunch of loser free loaders to see this new craphole doctor.

          If you want to know what that will be like just go find a place that can't turn people away. Sit in the lobby 30 minutes. I dare you.

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            #6
            Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
            Don't forget the hard working man will be standing in line behind a bunch of loser free loaders to see this new craphole doctor.

            If you want to know what that will be like just go find a place that can't turn people away. Sit in the lobby 30 minutes. I dare you.

            That is sense that people like Texansfan just cannot abide. It doesn't matter what the hard working person wants. He can afford to pay more therefore, you should too. It makes him feel good about himself but moreover, he stays employed.

            I challenge anyone to show me in our Constitution or Bill of Rights where anyone has a "Right" to healthcare. Like you asked him before: Why stop there? Why not single-payer housing? Or, a free car? Or, a vacation home in The Hamptons? The "feel-good" argument has no end. If we permit one ounce of this Marxist legislation to gain foothold, we are doomed. Look at our education system. That was by design so the rest of this garbage can get steamrolled through with no resistance from the masses.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Russ79 View Post
              Letting the government determine what doctor's can charge, since they will only pay so much (which will probably lead to doctor shortages), letting the government determine what procedures you can and cannot have,

              1. Y'all complain now about really high doctors bills because the docs are setting their own prices.
              So you complain either way.
              Darned if you do, darned if you don't.

              2. Govt already determines which procedures you can get. Try getting embryonic stem cells to treat any disease. But you can fly to Europe and get it done no problem.

              Some of y'all just complain and don't even know what you're complaining about.



              If you can't see I just gave you two valid non political based points then I don't know...

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                #8
                Originally posted by CoolHandLuke View Post
                If they'd cut people like his sorry *** off the payroll it would help lower our premiums. They leach needs to get out and find a real job instead of sucking off the ins companies. He will love it along with everyone else with their hand out looking for the gov to take care of them.
                LoL
                I also run analytics to ensure that the 500mg of acetaminophen in that pill of Tylenol you're taking is actually between 498mg and 502mg and also that the dose of 500mg per pill is not toxic for too many ppl (ie it doesn't kill more than 5 people out of 10,000 that take it)

                A "real job" huh?

                LoL

                You're such a socialist
                You want "small govt" and want govt out of industry but then you want govt to regulate industry in your favor by trying to supposedly remove my profession from the process?
                Did I get that right?

                You want to add MORE govt regulation to an already over regulated industry?

                I don't understand...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
                  Don't forget the hard working man will be standing in line behind a bunch of loser free loaders to see this new craphole doctor.

                  If you want to know what that will be like just go find a place that can't turn people away. Sit in the lobby 30 minutes. I dare you.

                  Hard working man
                  Can you define that?
                  Is it just because a person swings a shovel in the Texas summer heat that makes him "hard working"????
                  Do I not work "hard" for my money since I set my own hours and work in an air conditioned office?

                  I have nearly 20 years experience in my field with ten years of collegiate/post graduate education (and every year I need to continually learn to upgrade my craft).

                  I've had to work PLENTY of holidays because a system being down (including 4th of July and Memorial day this year).

                  Craphole doctor?
                  The same one that will save your life when you go to the ER?
                  Oh boy...


                  Originally posted by Livin'2hunt View Post
                  That is sense that people like Texansfan just cannot abide. It doesn't matter what the hard working person wants. He can afford to pay more therefore, you should too. It makes him feel good about himself but moreover, he stays employed.

                  I challenge anyone to show me in our Constitution or Bill of Rights where anyone has a "Right" to healthcare. Like you asked him before: Why stop there? Why not single-payer housing? Or, a free car? Or, a vacation home in The Hamptons? The "feel-good" argument has no end. If we permit one ounce of this Marxist legislation to gain foothold, we are doomed. Look at our education system. That was by design so the rest of this garbage can get steamrolled through with no resistance from the masses.
                  You're so contradictory it's ridiculous.
                  You first accuse me of not being for the "common man"
                  But then in the very next sentence you get mad at me for wanting healthcare for "all men"
                  Not just those that make above a certain dollar amount.

                  What you're proposing is that only "hard working" men get access to decent quality health care.
                  What I'm proposing is that anyone that makes minimum wage be afforded the same health care as those that make $10M per year.

                  Same set up we have in education now.

                  Let's say you have a guy like Ken Murphy or Rex Tillerson living in Carlton Woods in the woodlands.
                  Their kids will go to The Woodlands High School.
                  On the same token, lil lupita that cleans their house for $10 an hour or serves them donuts at Shipleys may also send her kids to The Woodlands High if she rents a little $800 apartment off Grogans Mill

                  Now Rex may decide he wants to pay extra and send his kid to The Post Oak school. But that can be the same in healthcare. I don't like the default option, so I'll pay for my own upgraded independent option.

                  But at least the "hard working man" is afforded the same default quality of life as the aristocrats.

                  Unless you come from a seriously wealthy family from 200 years ago you too benefited from those "Marxist" policies of the education system.
                  Did you go to college?
                  Have any federally backed student loans?
                  Did you go to a public or private college?
                  I'm sure you've benefited from "Marxist" policies all around but you're trying to scream them down.

                  Did you ever take the "mortgage interest deduction" on your taxes?
                  That's a form of govt welfare, you know.
                  More govt intrusion in industry.
                  Last edited by texansfan; 07-17-2017, 05:22 AM.

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                    #10
                    We have "single payer" k-12 education already.
                    On average 1.25% of your property value goes to fund the local school district. If you use those schools directly or not.

                    Many in Houston HISD choose to throw that 1.25% away and send their kids to private schools.

                    If you make minimum wage, you should be afforded quality preventative medicine and life saving medications.

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                      #11
                      Marxist policies are the federal flood insurance program.
                      Why is the federal govt in the business of underwriting insurance policies?





                      Why does the federal govt loan money to farmers to grow and send crops to Cuba?
                      What happens when the farmers default on these loans?
                      Who eats that?
                      The American public does.

                      There are leaks and waste all over the place.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by texansfan View Post
                        We have "single payer" k-12 education already.
                        On average 1.25% of your property value goes to fund the local school district. If you use those schools directly or not.

                        Many in Houston HISD choose to throw that 1.25% away and send their kids to private schools.

                        If you make minimum wage, you should be afforded quality preventative medicine and life saving medications.
                        Minimum wage people and thousands of illegals already get healthcare paid for.
                        Ever been to an er? Most likely cant find a place to sit....anytime of day. Most likely cant communicate with a large number of them for the language barrier .
                        I deal with " poor " people everyday. They get plenty of healthcare with no intention of paying for. They call the ambulance all The time because they know it wont cost them anything. Most responsible people may go a lifetime without calling ems because we know there is a cost associated with it and if we need a ride we call a taxi. The problem with the entire obamacare system is that it ****ed up 100% of health insurance for less than 1% of the population. And it did not do that out of compassion......it did it for a lust for power and control.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by flywise View Post
                          Minimum wage people and thousands of illegals already get healthcare paid for.
                          Ever been to an er? Most likely cant find a place to sit....anytime of day. Most likely cant communicate with a large number of them for the language barrier .
                          I deal with " poor " people everyday. They get plenty of healthcare with no intention of paying for. They call the ambulance all The time because they know it wont cost them anything. Most responsible people may go a lifetime without calling ems because we know there is a cost associated with it and if we need a ride we call a taxi. The problem with the entire obamacare system is that it ****ed up 100% of health insurance for less than 1% of the population. And it did not do that out of compassion......it did it for a lust for power and control.
                          I specifically said PREVENTATIVE care.
                          How bout you get your blood pressure treated BEFORE it results in a stroke or heart attack and you go to ER.

                          How about kids with diabetes get their insulin on time before they go to ER?

                          HOW about getting that cough treated before it turns into pneumonia.

                          And y'all still don't get it.
                          These Republican politicians are not dragging their feet to repeal Obamacare because they have Juan Pedro and Manuel ringing their office phones.

                          Have you not been hearing what folks at these town halls in Kentucky, West Virginia and Montana have been saying???

                          They want to keep their Obamacare!!!!!

                          Obamacare is not being repealed because too many of the voting public are in favor of it.

                          Simple as that.

                          Forget what I'm telling you, ask the politicians that aren't 100% on board with Trumpcare why they aren't sold.
                          Because the REPUBLICAN voters that put them in office are telling them that they want to keep their Obamacare.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by flywise View Post
                            Minimum wage people and thousands of illegals already get healthcare paid for.
                            Ever been to an er? Most likely cant find a place to sit....
                            Oh and I don't care about illegals getting preventative health care.
                            But they should get ER care just as if I went to Cancun and got side swiped by a jet ski I'd want Mexico to at least keep me alive long enough to where my American insurance could life flight me back to Houston

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by texansfan View Post
                              I specifically said PREVENTATIVE care.
                              How bout you get your blood pressure treated BEFORE it results in a stroke or heart attack and you go to ER.

                              How about kids with diabetes get their insulin on time before they go to ER?

                              HOW about getting that cough treated before it turns into pneumonia.

                              And y'all still don't get it.
                              These Republican politicians are not dragging their feet to repeal Obamacare because they have Juan Pedro and Manuel ringing their office phones.

                              Have you not been hearing what folks at these town halls in Kentucky, West Virginia and Montana have been saying???

                              They want to keep their Obamacare!!!!!

                              Obamacare is not being repealed because too many of the voting public are in favor of it.

                              Simple as that.

                              Forget what I'm telling you, ask the politicians that aren't 100% on board with Trumpcare why they aren't sold.
                              Because the REPUBLICAN voters that put them in office are telling them that they want to keep their Obamacare.



                              I do think we all get it. You're the smartest troll on TBH.:

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