A little upset

[critter69]

That’s crazy! But now that I think about it while in school it’s nice to have a well decorated classroom it made it fun. I was in rooms that were decorated from wall to wall and others that had one or 2 posters. I honestly wish teachers got paid way more I know it’s a profession that one loves and doesn’t do it for the money.

I have two friends that teach, one elementary school and one high school. They get paid plenty, for the time they work. And just because you give them a raise, you think they are going to spend it on decorating the room, or on supplies. I THINK NOT. The ones that decorate now, buy supplies will do the same with a raise, the ones that don’t decorate now WILL NOT decorate the class room, buy supplies, any differently with a raise, I can guarantee you. And this question was answered from both of the teachers I know, and a couple others we were with.

[TXHUNT3R]

Oh eff that! I would be mad!

[JSeabolt]

Answers to this thread

So, after reading this, and I don't post a ton I cannot help but give everyone the correct information - AS HUSBAND OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PRINCIPAL IN TEXAS.

It is not the school or teacher's fault, don't go at them. It is YOUR fault (now before everyone blasts me keep reading).

The teachers are the only following the rules set forth by their employers - the school district. Just like you have rules to follow at your job, so do they. Break a rule, get in trouble, written up, loose your job, etc.

A no. 2 pencil is a no. 2 pencil, don't sweat that part. For the nicer things your kid picks out write their name on it, 99% of the time they will get it. It is not the over worked, under paid teacher's responsibility to keep track of 200 red folders or 200 folders with princesses and who's is who's.

Back to the YOUR fault - you elected the politicians that set the rules the teachers have to follow, don't blame them, go be active and elect someone that will fix the issues in a manner you desire.

Most of all remember this - yes you are a tax payer, the teachers work for you but they are people as well, treat them as you would like your boss to treat you. THEY ARE NOT PAID TO RAISE YOUR KIDS, they are paid to teach them. You are responsible for raising and instilling in your children the ability to ask for their items, to behave in class, etc. Remember, God put us here to teach, guide, and raise our children. He is very clear on this, humans are inherently wrong and bad - did you teach your children how to say "mine"??? But you do have to teach them to apologize and behave, correct? Go with the attitude that my adult - college degree educated professional is correct 99% of the time, and my child is probably embellishing ("mine") to keep from getting in trouble and miracles will happen for you.

My wife has her own family and children to raise properly. Remember these teachers (99%) of them care deeply for every child, care for them in the same manner and you will be amazed at the results.

[RJH1]

Some folks do not have a choice.

IDK, about that. We drove old cars, lived in a cheaper house, didn't go out to eat much, I was the sole provider at a not high paying job, so my wife (and me too) could homeschool our kid, all with no government help. It all depends on how you prioritize. Oh, and i got to pay taxes for the crapper public school system i didn't use. He then went on to graduate college with honors.

So, really if you don't like public schools, raise and teach your own kids, they will be better off in the long run and you won't have to put up with the public school BS of redistributing your supplies and other fun things. You will however still have to pay taxes for crap you don't use, but that is what people keep voting for so not much you can do about that.

[RJH1]

So, after reading this, and I don't post a ton I cannot help but give everyone the correct information - AS HUSBAND OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PRINCIPAL IN TEXAS.

It is not the school or teacher's fault, don't go at them. It is YOUR fault (now before everyone blasts me keep reading).

The teachers are the only following the rules set forth by their employers - the school district. Just like you have rules to follow at your job, so do they. Break a rule, get in trouble, written up, loose your job, etc.

A no. 2 pencil is a no. 2 pencil, don't sweat that part. For the nicer things your kid picks out write their name on it, 99% of the time they will get it. It is not the over worked, under paid teacher's responsibility to keep track of 200 red folders or 200 folders with princesses and who's is who's.

Back to the YOUR fault - you elected the politicians that set the rules the teachers have to follow, don't blame them, go be active and elect someone that will fix the issues in a manner you desire.

Most of all remember this - yes you are a tax payer, the teachers work for you but they are people as well, treat them as you would like your boss to treat you. THEY ARE NOT PAID TO RAISE YOUR KIDS, they are paid to teach them. You are responsible for raising and instilling in your children the ability to ask for their items, to behave in class, etc. Remember, God put us here to teach, guide, and raise our children. He is very clear on this, humans are inherently wrong and bad - did you teach your children how to say "mine"??? But you do have to teach them to apologize and behave, correct? Go with the attitude that my adult - college degree educated professional is correct 99% of the time, and my child is probably embellishing ("mine") to keep from getting in trouble and miracles will happen for you.

My wife has her own family and children to raise properly. Remember these teachers (99%) of them care deeply for every child, care for them in the same manner and you will be amazed at the results.

Not my fault, as soon as someone says, "it's for the children" I know to vote against it, and try to get others to do the same. I swear though, around here people vote for every public funded that comes up and most call themselves conservative, but consistently vote for spending other people's money, especially if it comes with the false moniker of, "it's for the children"

[jds247]

So, after reading this, and I don't post a ton I cannot help but give everyone the correct information - AS HUSBAND OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PRINCIPAL IN TEXAS.

It is not the school or teacher's fault, don't go at them. It is YOUR fault (now before everyone blasts me keep reading).

The teachers are the only following the rules set forth by their employers - the school district. Just like you have rules to follow at your job, so do they. Break a rule, get in trouble, written up, loose your job, etc.

A no. 2 pencil is a no. 2 pencil, don't sweat that part. For the nicer things your kid picks out write their name on it, 99% of the time they will get it. It is not the over worked, under paid teacher's responsibility to keep track of 200 red folders or 200 folders with princesses and who's is who's.

Back to the YOUR fault - you elected the politicians that set the rules the teachers have to follow, don't blame them, go be active and elect someone that will fix the issues in a manner you desire.

Most of all remember this - yes you are a tax payer, the teachers work for you but they are people as well, treat them as you would like your boss to treat you. THEY ARE NOT PAID TO RAISE YOUR KIDS, they are paid to teach them. You are responsible for raising and instilling in your children the ability to ask for their items, to behave in class, etc. Remember, God put us here to teach, guide, and raise our children. He is very clear on this, humans are inherently wrong and bad - did you teach your children how to say "mine"??? But you do have to teach them to apologize and behave, correct? Go with the attitude that my adult - college degree educated professional is correct 99% of the time, and my child is probably embellishing ("mine") to keep from getting in trouble and miracles will happen for you.

My wife has her own family and children to raise properly. Remember these teachers (99%) of them care deeply for every child, care for them in the same manner and you will be amazed at the results.

As a parent in Texas who has to teach his kids math etc that should be taught in school,College Educated is thrown around way too often and I have a degree . Common sense will get you a lot farther in life than some piece of paper saying you paid for classes that are mostly meaningless .

[wellingtontx]

Did the teacher respond ? Sorry if I missed the response.

[sixwarden9]

- you elected the politicians that set the rules the teachers have to follow, don't blame them, go be active and elect someone that will fix the issues in a manner you desire.

This is most important part of his statement. We talk, worry, discuss, argue, etc. incessantly about national politics, when it is our local elections that effect us the most in our daily lives. Think property tax, sales tax expenditures you pay every year in TX to pay for the services in your community. My wife fought the school board once, it took a lot of time and persistence and I hate to use this phrase, "community organizing" but it paid off in the end. Two long time incumbents who used the board as a social status statement voted off and two parents voted on.

[Radar]

IDK, about that. We drove old cars, lived in a cheaper house, didn't go out to eat much, I was the sole provider at a not high paying job, so my wife (and me too) could homeschool our kid, all with no government help. It all depends on how you prioritize. Oh, and i got to pay taxes for the crapper public school system i didn't use. He then went on to graduate college with honors.

So, really if you don't like public schools, raise and teach your own kids, they will be better off in the long run and you won't have to put up with the public school BS of redistributing your supplies and other fun things. You will however still have to pay taxes for crap you don't use, but that is what people keep voting for so not much you can do about that.

Glad you got it all figured out and done well. But I do know folks that have no choice and they are in my immediate family and some are neighbors. I could go on about their struggles but it would be a waste of typing and time.

[RiverRat1]

IDK, about that. We drove old cars, lived in a cheaper house, didn't go out to eat much, I was the sole provider at a not high paying job, so my wife (and me too) could homeschool our kid, all with no government help. It all depends on how you prioritize. Oh, and i got to pay taxes for the crapper public school system i didn't use. He then went on to graduate college with honors.

So, really if you don't like public schools, raise and teach your own kids, they will be better off in the long run and you won't have to put up with the public school BS of redistributing your supplies and other fun things. You will however still have to pay taxes for crap you don't use, but that is what people keep voting for so not much you can do about that.

This is the great divide. First I agree it's all in how one prioritizes... But why does NO one ever tell "the poor" to prioritize?

The rich and poor often make the same amount of money. The rich are ask FAR more as in your example. The poor blow every penny in too many stupid ways to list yet they are not held accountable AT ALL, which is pure BS.

[CoolHandLuke]

They do the same crap where we are.. I don't see how any teacher has to come out of pocket with the amount of pencils and packs of paper on the list.. they tried to put printer paper on the list this year.. I told the wife to send him 1 of everything on the list with his name on it.. I'm not buying printer paper when I pay so much in school taxes.

I voiced my frustration with our little girls teacher during open house when she told us how much she has to come out of pocket. I then sent an email to the Superintendent voicing the same stating the new athletic facilities that come from tax payer bonds and the exec salaries they make but the teachers are on a tight budget and still have to come out of pocket. I will be at the next school board meeting along with many other parents who are tired of the same. Thinking about running for school board in the next few years.

[Dale Moser]

My son is in 3rd grade, this is the kind of thing I tell him to handle himself. If it matters to you, speak up and get your Dallas Stars folder back. He missed out on something like that in 1st grade, and got it fixed. He always winds up with his baseball/football pencils, erasers, binders since then.

Tell her if it's important to her, to speak up.

[Man]

My son starts kindergarten next school season and will be attending a new school in our area, that was just given all the problem kids from the bad side of town in hopes to benefit the troubled kids. Trust me when I say we are ready for ANY type of socialist/unfair bull**** they try to teach our son. NOT HAPPENING.

[Radar]

This is the great divide. First I agree it's all in how one prioritizes... But why does NO one ever tell "the poor" to prioritize?

The rich and poor often make the same amount of money. The rich are ask FAR more as in your example. The poor blow every penny in too many stupid ways to list yet they are not held accountable AT ALL, which is pure BS.

Life aint always cut and dry.

A special needs child changes the whole dynamics of a family, everyone in that family makes sacrifices including siblings. Could be those siblings have no choice but public schools and riding the school bus. Pride can go along ways in a working man's family and aint no one wants a handout. I'm sure you get the drift.

A parent that is diagnosed with cancer and the family is over whelmed with bills from co pay and or bills the insurance does not cover. Things happen.

I understand what you are saying, but every horse aint got the same spots.

[STX_Shooter]

She called this morning, we cleared it up. My daughter will be getting her supplies back next week. As mentioned above she buys and reuses supplies. She thought most students wouldn’t have their supplies ready the first day of school so she used her binders instead. I told her if she needed more supplies from my daughter and if a underprivileged kid needed something or even she needed something to let me know I would take care of it. She was happy with that, I’m glad it was handle between us and not taken any further than it needed to be.