Form 4 Wait

[BrandonA]

Give us some dates


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14 months

[savin yours]

14 months

Ouch!


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[BrandonA]

Ouch!


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Is what it is. Typical Govt in action

[Charles]

If one gets a trust do they have to go through the long wait to purchase more suppressors?

[cj_sandman]

If one gets a trust do they have to go through the long wait to purchase more suppressors?

I just bought my second suppressor from SilencerShop, they retain your records so there’s no paperwork that needs to be done on your end the second time around (assuming your trust is already set up and they have the info on file).

You still have to go through the wait for approval of the tax stamp, every time..

Someone else posted something about just buying one every year so that you’ve always got one on the way.. I like that idea

[Elite13]

Is it faster if you go as an invidual? Or a trust?

[sierracharlie338]

About the same now


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[TeamAmerica]

About the same now


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Not the data I am seeing. 324 days for trust vs 212 for individual. Everyone claims the backlog will clear but I haven't seen anything concrete to convince me.

http://www.nfatracker.com/nfa-transfer-time-tracking/

[sierracharlie338]

How the s*** is a trust taking longer than an individual?? That’s news to me. When I bought mine the trust was way faster.


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[Outbreaker]

How the s*** is a trust taking longer than an individual?? That’s news to me. When I bought mine the trust was way faster.


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This has happened since 41F. I think it was the ATF punishing trust holders. Look at the curve and the individuals immediately started bending down (now 3-4 months) and the Trusts just started bending down (now 9-12 months)

[gingib]

How the s*** is a trust taking longer than an individual?? That’s news to me. When I bought mine the trust was way faster.


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been this way for months

[sierracharlie338]

That is some BS if I ever heard it! Darn alphabet agencies....

[150class]

How the s*** is a trust taking longer than an individual?? That’s news to me. When I bought mine the trust was way faster.


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Possibly on purpose to sway people to individuals but there’s more paperwork involved with a trust since there’s multiple people on a trust.

[35remington]

I had lunch with a guy from ATF recently. They're just a bureaucracy. The examiners aren't out to treat Trusts like a red-headed stepchild. They were given almost no guidance on how to process Trusts post-41F. No help on how to delineate Responsible Persons. As a result, they just left all the Trusts in a pile while they worked on what they knew how to process: Individuals.

Eventually, guidance was disseminated about how to process Trusts. So now they've turned back to the paperwork mountain and started to tackle it. That's why you see Trust times coming down.

Their methods are archaic. Anyone who used E-Forms knows that software is from the 1980s. But it sure beats #WaitingForHPA

[sierracharlie338]

I had lunch with a guy from ATF recently. They're just a bureaucracy. The examiners aren't out to treat Trusts like a red-headed stepchild. They were given almost no guidance on how to process Trusts post-41F. No help on how to delineate Responsible Persons. As a result, they just left all the Trusts in a pile while they worked on what they knew how to process: Individuals.

Eventually, guidance was disseminated about how to process Trusts. So now they've turned back to the paperwork mountain and started to tackle it. That's why you see Trust times coming down.

Their methods are archaic. Anyone who used E-Forms knows that software is from the 1980s. But it sure beats #WaitingForHPA

I work for a government agency and this does not surprise me one bit. Just frustrating. But that’s what the government is good at!


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