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    #31
    Originally posted by J Sweet View Post
    Because illegals don't get cancer or fat, got it. So actually they do the 100K and the 5k.
    LOL

    Don't worry he will have an excuse. He just can't admit illegals cost us money. Maybe he was or is illegal?

    Even if he was right why should we not stop illegals from costing us the money they do cost us? Just because texasfans thinks they cost less doesn't mean it shouldn't be stopped. Geez...That's liberal logic right there.

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      #32
      Anchor babies along the border are a huge problem...my wife used to work labor & delivery. You take into account many of these poor don't have healthy pregnancies, newborns go to icu & then we have another family of dependents that are now on our payroll.

      Illegals are a huge piece & its ignorance to refute the impacts.

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        #33
        In spite of all the fat people/cancer patients/illegals and welfare queens,the insurance companies enjoy billion$ in profit.

        DJ

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          #34
          Originally posted by DJM View Post
          In spite of all the fat people/cancer patients/illegals and welfare queens,the insurance companies enjoy billion$ in profit.

          DJ
          Right? They are just hurting so bad lol.

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            #35
            Here is the biggest reason, corrupt politicians taking kick backs from the insurance companies.

            $155,800,327 total was spent lobbying in the Insurance industry in 2016. See the details.

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              #36
              Originally posted by texansfan View Post
              It can take 40 illegal alien patients to equal the financial impact of one fat American.
              So if we deport 40 illegals for every fat American, we can reduce the cost of healthcare by 50%?

              Border wall paid for. 10 times over.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Playa View Post

                It's the fact that I can go to my pcp and offer a cash amount, but if I file on insurance it's 50% more, and the insurance pays it
                They bill 50% more, but insuance only pays 10-20% of billed amount for agreed services, then you pay the remaining 80%, which is more than the cash amount you could get up front?????????

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by J Sweet View Post
                  Because illegals don't get cancer or fat, got it. So actually they do the 100K and the 5k.
                  LoL
                  Illegals don't get their cancer care paid for
                  Even Americans don't get all of their cancer care paid for
                  It takes some hoops top jump thru

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by texansfan View Post
                    LoL
                    Illegals don't get their cancer care paid for
                    Even Americans don't get all of their cancer care paid for
                    It takes some hoops top jump thru
                    Sure they do. If an illegal is sick and goes to the ER and is told he has cancer he is not sent away. He is treated. May not get the latest greatest chemo or whatever but they are seen for free at the hospitals and we pay for that. When did not dying become a right in this country? You get sick you die. If you have the money or insurance through a benefit you work for so same as a paycheck than you maybe live a little bit longer.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DJM View Post
                      In spite of all the fat people/cancer patients/illegals and welfare queens,the insurance companies enjoy billion$ in profit.

                      DJ
                      Originally posted by J Sweet View Post
                      Right? They are just hurting so bad lol.
                      Originally posted by J Sweet View Post
                      Here is the biggest reason, corrupt politicians taking kick backs from the insurance companies.

                      http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/ind...=F09&year=2016

                      But ppl on tbh are saying that Obamacare and illegals are bankrupting health insurance companies and killing our health care system.

                      I'm finally getting y'all to see you're blaming the wrong group.
                      The folks you need to be blaming are your politicians and the CEOs of these insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies.

                      Anchor babies in Brownsville, TX have exactly what effect on healthcare administered in Brownsville, NYC???

                      Yes illegals have a dollar impact but the PERCENTAGE of that impact is statistically insignificant compared to what LOBBYIST are doing

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by texansfan View Post
                        But ppl on tbh are saying that Obamacare and illegals are bankrupting health insurance companies and killing our health care system.

                        I'm finally getting y'all to see you're blaming the wrong group.
                        The folks you need to be blaming are your politicians and the CEOs of these insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies.

                        Anchor babies in Brownsville, TX have exactly what effect on healthcare administered in Brownsville, NYC???

                        Yes illegals have a dollar impact but the PERCENTAGE of that impact is statistically insignificant compared to what LOBBYIST are doing

                        Logical fallacy, there is more than one group responsible. There isn't a mutual exclusivity. Corruption in our govt and healthcare companies as well as illegals as well as fat unhealthy irresponsible people are all reasons. We don't have to accept any or one because another exists.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by J Sweet View Post
                          Sure they do. If an illegal is sick and goes to the ER and is told he has cancer he is not sent away. He is treated. May not get the latest greatest chemo or whatever but they are seen for free at the hospitals and we pay for that. When did not dying become a right in this country? You get sick you die. If you have the money or insurance through a benefit you work for so same as a paycheck than you maybe live a little bit longer.
                          Do you even know how that works?
                          You obviously don't.
                          They don't administer chemo in the ER.
                          You need to see an oncologist and have all types of things done before a chemo regimen is administered.

                          You're making stuff up.
                          I deal in oncology all day long.
                          All aspects of it.
                          Diagnosis.
                          Treatment.
                          Billing/Payment.
                          Patient assistance.

                          You're making stuff up.

                          Illegals are not getting free cancer care.
                          Do you know that Americans can't even get free chemo without a bunch of hoops to jump through?


                          And you're so gung go about letting folks die if they don't have the money to pay until it's someone close to you then you'll be begging and pleading to have them saved even though they don't have the cash.


                          I don't care if they were a "good guy" and worked 40 years for whatever company
                          If he doesn't have the money to pay then you're saying he shouldn't get treatment?

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by J Sweet View Post
                            Logical fallacy, there is more than one group responsible. There isn't a mutual exclusivity. Corruption in our govt and healthcare companies as well as illegals as well as fat unhealthy irresponsible people are all reasons. We don't have to accept any or one because another exists.
                            If 80% of the damage is being done by one group (greedy lobbyists) why are you so fixated and expending so much energy on the group that only contributes 1.8% to the problem?

                            You don't like efficiency I take it.
                            Last edited by texansfan; 09-14-2017, 10:21 AM.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by texansfan View Post
                              If 80% of the damage is being done by one group (greedy lobbyists) why are you so fixated and expending so much energy on the group that ivy contributes 1.8% to the problem?

                              You don't like efficiency I take it.
                              Oh I love efficiency, arbitrary made up statistics however, not so much

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
                                LOL

                                Don't worry he will have an excuse. He just can't admit illegals cost us money. Maybe he was or is illegal?

                                Even if he was right why should we not stop illegals from costing us the money they do cost us? Just because texasfans thinks they cost less doesn't mean it shouldn't be stopped. Geez...That's liberal logic right there.
                                Illegals do cost us money.
                                What % of the budget?

                                If 90% of the "fat" are because of greedy lobbyists and corrupt politicians, why are you spending 90% of your time fighting the group that is responsible for 1% of the "fat"?
                                That's a poor ROI.

                                I'm telling y'all fix the lobbyist and politicians FIRST and you'll see a huuuuuuggeee reduction in costs.
                                Then you go after the crumbs which are illegals and welfare queens (both groups drain the system as well but at a much slower rate)

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