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I will put in my 2 cents. I have trained all kinds of breeds Labs GSD Mutts and now Standard Poodles. The breed the we put in the most time was the GSD. High drive means a lot more time you have to spend with them. Look at a breed that will do the job you want them to do. Not because it is a popular breed or because so and so has one. One of the best guard dogs I have ever had was a half GSD half Collie. She was just a bad *** but you could bring any small child around her without fear of her hurting them. To many people get " the popular breed of the day and end up surrendered them because the can not handle them witch makes me sick. That being said I am a big fan of the Standard Poodle. Smart easy to train protective of their people and place dose not shed and will hunt. What ever you get spend as much time as you can with them it will pay off in the end.
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Expanding on what Rig said...….it's not just the breed but the lines within the breed. You can get pet lines in GSD.....or show lines that are not high strung and drivey. You can also get West German working lines that are just as crazy as Mals.
For just a pet the west German show lines are great. As stated earlier, they have to be able to work and be titled in IPO/Schutzhund in order to be bred in Germany. I had one before my currecnt dog. Huge at 105 lbs. Gorgeous. Not a mean bone in his body. However he would bark at strangers and his look was intimidating enough to ward off the bad guys.
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Originally posted by Burntorange Bowhunter View PostYeah. The AKC stresses breeding for a specific look. In Germany even the show lines have to work and be titled in IPO.
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German lines are the only lines I have looked at specifically out of Germany. All of their lines have to work first and foremost, looked at some Jagd, teckel, and GSD from Germany. To many American breeders are solely in for looks. The Germans have got it right hopefully more people around here will follow.
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Just saw this and don't have time to read all the replies, hope you're still reading. These dogs need LOTS of exercise AND a job. I saw you said you have property, that's great, but do you have ALOT of time to spend with the dog? My K9 is a Mal. Days I don't work I take him out and RUN him with a toy at least 3 times a day. He will drive me nuts if I don't. The days I do work I still have to take him out and run him once or twice a day. My department pays me an hour a day to care for my dog. I spend that or more EVERY DAY with him. If they don't get enough attention and exercise they can develop very bad habits (digging, chewing, constant barking, etc).
As much as I love my partner, I don't recommend the breed except as a working dog. If you're not into some kind of dog sports (Schutzhund, KNPV, etc) with lots of time on your hands I would go with a German Shepherd (my first K9 was a GSD). Much better family bonding, usually not as destructive, better family dogs in general.
Side note, our other K9 handler's first dog was a Mal, very sensitive to storms (thunder/lightning). My dog is terrified of storms. I used to love watching thunderstorms from the porch. Now I dread them. He will wake me up 45 minutes before a storm gets here just to tell me I'm not allowed to sleep until it's gone. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not. Same dog will run into gunfire without hesitation, but thunder and fireworks and I'm not sleeping.
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Originally posted by flyby View PostJust saw this and don't have time to read all the replies, hope you're still reading. These dogs need LOTS of exercise AND a job. I saw you said you have property, that's great, but do you have ALOT of time to spend with the dog? My K9 is a Mal. Days I don't work I take him out and RUN him with a toy at least 3 times a day. He will drive me nuts if I don't. The days I do work I still have to take him out and run him once or twice a day. My department pays me an hour a day to care for my dog. I spend that or more EVERY DAY with him. If they don't get enough attention and exercise they can develop very bad habits (digging, chewing, constant barking, etc).
As much as I love my partner, I don't recommend the breed except as a working dog. If you're not into some kind of dog sports (Schutzhund, KNPV, etc) with lots of time on your hands I would go with a German Shepherd (my first K9 was a GSD). Much better family bonding, usually not as destructive, better family dogs in general.
Side note, our other K9 handler's first dog was a Mal, very sensitive to storms (thunder/lightning). My dog is terrified of storms. I used to love watching thunderstorms from the porch. Now I dread them. He will wake me up 45 minutes before a storm gets here just to tell me I'm not allowed to sleep until it's gone. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not. Same dog will run into gunfire without hesitation, but thunder and fireworks and I'm not sleeping.
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Originally posted by BrandonA View PostI have decided against a Mal. Going with GSD. Thanks for the input though
I will have another GSD in my lifetime. If I do get another Mal it will only be as a working dog.
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Originally posted by flyby View PostJust saw this and don't have time to read all the replies, hope you're still reading. These dogs need LOTS of exercise AND a job. I saw you said you have property, that's great, but do you have ALOT of time to spend with the dog? My K9 is a Mal. Days I don't work I take him out and RUN him with a toy at least 3 times a day. He will drive me nuts if I don't. The days I do work I still have to take him out and run him once or twice a day. My department pays me an hour a day to care for my dog. I spend that or more EVERY DAY with him. If they don't get enough attention and exercise they can develop very bad habits (digging, chewing, constant barking, etc).
As much as I love my partner, I don't recommend the breed except as a working dog. If you're not into some kind of dog sports (Schutzhund, KNPV, etc) with lots of time on your hands I would go with a German Shepherd (my first K9 was a GSD). Much better family bonding, usually not as destructive, better family dogs in general.
Side note, our other K9 handler's first dog was a Mal, very sensitive to storms (thunder/lightning). My dog is terrified of storms. I used to love watching thunderstorms from the porch. Now I dread them. He will wake me up 45 minutes before a storm gets here just to tell me I'm not allowed to sleep until it's gone. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not. Same dog will run into gunfire without hesitation, but thunder and fireworks and I'm not sleeping.
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With all that has been said.....
I have been spoiled by Bagley for the last 7 or 8 years.
I take her to work with me and never have a concern about anyone being in the building that does not belong and sleep well at night knowing someone would have their hands full if they tried to break into the house.
I know in a couple of years she will be done.
I will be in the market for another protection dog. I owned a white German Shepard 20 years ago that was afraid of everything and would hide under a trailer if a stranger drove up.
What is a good breed to have around that will bite when you need them to but still safe to take to work?
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Originally posted by Buff View PostWith all that has been said.....
I have been spoiled by Bagley for the last 7 or 8 years.
I take her to work with me and never have a concern about anyone being in the building that does not belong and sleep well at night knowing someone would have their hands full if they tried to break into the house.
I know in a couple of years she will be done.
I will be in the market for another protection dog. I owned a white German Shepard 20 years ago that was afraid of everything and would hide under a trailer if a stranger drove up.
What is a good breed to have around that will bite when you need them to but still safe to take to work?
The answer to your question is a well bred GSD, Doberman or Rottweiler. However the average dog owner should not have a powerful dog that will bite.
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Thanks for this thread and input! I have read much of the same and I'm very cautious of breeds like this anymore. I found out very quick much the same with the Akita's, Kuma...
What has been described reminds me of folks who buy pointers, short hairs and never exercise or hunt them? After Kuma passed we now have a Catahoula that is SO protective (great) but I have to be on "point" when anyone is around that Myla does not know?
I spent a lot of $$ when I first got RIP Kuma...told by several Vets and owners to have him trained. He minded me, would walk beside me and respond to hand/verbal commands but let another "critter" make the mistake and they were DRT.
Just too many folks who get a "high spirited" canine and don't research to their breeding....not much help but as usual my 2cents.
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