I'm new new to this.
Will this be a good bullet for my intended purposes, killing out to 700yd occasionally, killing inside 300 frequently. Or do I need better stability?
I'm new new to this.
Will this be a good bullet for my intended purposes, killing out to 700yd occasionally, killing inside 300 frequently. Or do I need better stability?
168 will work. But at that range I would feel a lot better with 200+.
Is it a 205? You'll have to have it checked as far as bullet seat depth. Those bullets are long. It may work or you may have to drop to the 185. Also Bergers like to be set up **** near on the rifling. Normally 10 thousandths off. You'll have to play with it. But don't start at 50 thousandths. That's because they are a Secant Ogive (shape of the bullet).
Just as an fyi that thread i started about long range hunting bullets was based off the idea of shooting those bullets i asked about out of the exact same rifle you are looking to buy with that savage 12 vlp in the 300 wsm. My research is showing that with handloads and a 26 inch barrel like the savage has you should be able to get around 3000 fps out of that rifle shooting 180 gr class of bullets like the 175 barnes lrx. That bullet out of my calculations should in theory have enough speed to still be able to expand out to 800 yards which is well over your 700 yard need.
Just as an fyi that thread i started about long range hunting bullets was based off the idea of shooting those bullets i asked about out of the exact same rifle you are looking to buy with that savage 12 vlp in the 300 wsm. My research is showing that with handloads and a 26 inch barrel like the savage has you should be able to get around 3000 fps out of that rifle shooting 180 gr class of bullets like the 175 barnes lrx. That bullet out of my calculations should in theory have enough speed to still be able to expand out to 800 yards which is well over your 700 yard need.
Is it a 205? You'll have to have it checked as far as bullet seat depth. Those bullets are long. It may work or you may have to drop to the 185. Also Bergers like to be set up **** near on the rifling. Normally 10 thousandths off. You'll have to play with it. But don't start at 50 thousandths. That's because they are a Secant Ogive (shape of the bullet).
Getting the Best Precision and Accuracy from VLD bullets in Your Rifle.
Background
VLD bullets are designed with a secant ogive. This ogive shape allows bullets to be more efficient in flight (retain more velocity = less drop and wind deflection). While this result is desirable for many rifle shooters the secant ogive on the VLD bullets
Here is a link to an article describing finding the optimum distance to the lands for your specific gun with vld's. While they found jamming into the lands is extremely consistent, they also describe a method to keep accuracy with a longer jump. It's a good read by an expert for sure.
Many shooters are not aware of the dramatic effects that bullet seating depth can have on the pressure and velocity generated by a rifle cartridge. COAL is also a variable that can be used to fine tune accuracy. It's also an important consideration for rifles that need to feed rounds thru a magazine. In this
Here is part one to a 2 part read concerning cartridge length by the same author. Once again expert ballistician and a great read. Part 2 can be found linked on there somewhere.
http://www.bergerbullets.com/vld-making-shoot/
Here is a link to an article describing finding the optimum distance to the lands for your specific gun with vld's. While they found jamming into the lands is extremely consistent, they also describe a method to keep accuracy with a longer jump. It's a good read by an expert for sure.
Many shooters are not aware of the dramatic effects that bullet seating depth can have on the pressure and velocity generated by a rifle cartridge. COAL is also a variable that can be used to fine tune accuracy. It's also an important consideration for rifles that need to feed rounds thru a magazine. In this
Here is part one to a 2 part read concerning cartridge length by the same author. Once again expert ballistician and a great read. Part 2 can be found linked on there somewhere.
Thanks! I'll save this and get back to it to read.
I'm new new to this.
Will this be a good bullet for my intended purposes, killing out to 700yd occasionally, killing inside 300 frequently. Or do I need better stability?
If it were me on a magnum I would step up to the 175 or 185 grain bullets. But being that it's a WSM and not a regular Wam that may not be an option since you will start limiting powder capacity.
That's where the regular swam shines over the WSM. It's just much more flexible.
If it were me on a magnum I would step up to the 175 or 185 grain bullets. But being that it's a WSM and not a regular Wam that may not be an option since you will start limiting powder capacity.
That's where the regular swam shines over the WSM. It's just much more flexible.
What bullets do you use at 175 gr? To me it seems the 30 Cal selection Drops off drastically for hunting bullets after 168 grain.
I use Berger 175s in my 308 and Berger 190s and 210s in my 300 Win Mag. They also offer a 185 grain as well.
Are the 175 gr match or hunting? I looked at the local sporting goods store and couldn't find a 175 hunting to save my life! But I'm half blind at times so I might if just missed it!
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