Who will not vote for Trump in November

[Rcole1310]

I think Trump really wants to do well for the country in his heart. If not so he could just say “I single handedly saved the country, I’m the greatest president ever!” I don’t think a wall hurts. Not sure how effective it will be but can’t hurt IMO. I like what he’s done with trade and N. Korea. Like him pulling out of The Middle East. But if he really wants to MAGA, do something about the INSANE SPENDING!!! That’s the REAL threat to the country. I do think he’s a low-life and an embarrassment. And I don’t like the way he purposely plays to our lowest notions to rile up his base. If the dems keep putting up socialist to run. Trump will win again. If they find a half way moderate candidate it’s over for Trump with most folks not liking him and his approval never getting out of the 40’s.


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[Razrbk89]

Curious to hear what LWC, Be10dwn,Lynn21,Jason,BrianL,Duckmanep,Razrbk89 and Rubi513 think now having been 2 years in?

Like some of the others, still don’t like the guy. Will likely vote third party again in 2020, unless Trump gets bumped by someone that would better represent me in the primary (unlikely, of course). Tired of the divisiveness that both parties continue to perpetuate. I just don’t have any faith in either party, and I felt that way before the Trump train. I wish we didn’t have to be concerned about the pendulum swinging back and forth so wildly with each election cycle.

I think he’s been bad for our image worldwide, and just isn’t a very good example. Many people will disagree & say that doesn’t matter, it is just my opinion. To me, he’s a lot like Obama, just on the other side of the aisle. I don’t think things would be unrecognizably different than they are now under Hillary, though I must admit I’m glad the popular vote doesn’t always count! He deals with a lot of criticism, some deserved, some not so much. The media circus that surrounds politics is distracting and disheartening. I think he genuinely wants the economy to continue to improve and I hope that it does.

At the end of the day, I just can’t bring myself to respect someone like the Donald. He’s certainly done some good things since he was elected, but my neck of the woods has taken some hits in the last couple of years. Not all his fault of course, just doesn’t leave a person feeling extra excited about the administration. 2020 will be interesting, that’s for sure.

[texasnavy05]

Only that our ountry is not a democracy. We are a republic.

What's the difference in a representative democracy vs. A republic?

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[AZST_bowhunter]

Like some of the others, still don’t like the guy. Will likely vote third party again in 2020, unless Trump gets bumped by someone that would better represent me in the primary (unlikely, of course). Tired of the divisiveness that both parties continue to perpetuate. I just don’t have any faith in either party, and I felt that way before the Trump train. I wish we didn’t have to be concerned about the pendulum swinging back and forth so wildly with each election cycle.

I think he’s been bad for our image worldwide, and just isn’t a very good example. Many people will disagree & say that doesn’t matter, it is just my opinion. To me, he’s a lot like Obama, just on the other side of the aisle. I don’t think things would be unrecognizably different than they are now under Hillary, though I must admit I’m glad the popular vote doesn’t always count! He deals with a lot of criticism, some deserved, some not so much. The media circus that surrounds politics is distracting and disheartening. I think he genuinely wants the economy to continue to improve and I hope that it does.

At the end of the day, I just can’t bring myself to respect someone like the Donald. He’s certainly done some good things since he was elected, but my neck of the woods has taken some hits in the last couple of years. Not all his fault of course, just doesn’t leave a person feeling extra excited about the administration. 2020 will be interesting, that’s for sure.

If he gets bumped we will never see a republican president again...

[texasnavy05]

Imo Trumps performance has been average at best. I think that any other Republican candidate could've done the same, and done it with more grace and tact.

When trump was firing up his base during campaign his platform was 1)repeal and replace 2)lock her up 3)build that wall. He may get one of those done and that's going to be done by circumventing our checks and balances.

On being a conservative...we've got more gun laws. Taxes were cut for the first year but will go back to what they were in 2020 and go up higher than that in 2022. Also, largest spending bill our country has ever had. Also, as a conservative, I'm not a fan of tariffs.

Economic trends are good, but they haven't changed much since 2009. I expect unemployment to level a bit as it approaches 0 because you will simply never have 0 unemployment so the closer you get them more it will level.

Political tension is really high. Can't put that on Trump but I certainly don't think he's done anything to help it.

Supreme court picks have been good imo and that will be the highlight of his presidency especially if he gets another pick.

I would love to see a R candidate that is a true fiscal conservative, moderate social conservative, and a model of Christian values. I'm not holding my breath though.

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[Clay C]

I've been overall happy with his Presidency, but I would hardly consider him a "Conservative".

[Charles]

Imo Trumps performance has been average at best. I think that any other Republican candidate could've done the same, and done it with more grace and tact.

When trump was firing up his base during campaign his platform was 1)repeal and replace 2)lock her up 3)build that wall. He may get one of those done and that's going to be done by circumventing our checks and balances.

On being a conservative...we've got more gun laws. Taxes were cut for the first year but will go back to what they were in 2020 and go up higher than that in 2022. Also, largest spending bill our country has ever had. Also, as a conservative, I'm not a fan of tariffs.

Economic trends are good, but they haven't changed much since 2009. I expect unemployment to level a bit as it approaches 0 because you will simply never have 0 unemployment so the closer you get them more it will level.

Political tension is really high. Can't put that on Trump but I certainly don't think he's done anything to help it.

Supreme court picks have been good imo and that will be the highlight of his presidency especially if he gets another pick.

I would love to see a R candidate that is a true fiscal conservative, moderate social conservative, and a model of Christian values. I'm not holding my breath though.

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I'm going to respectfully disagree with the statement I bolded above.

I don't think Cruz or any of the others running could have tamed little rocket man like President Trump has. I don't think any of them would stand up to China like President Trump has. I don't think any of them would take the stance on border security like Trump has.

He still has time to "lock her up"/ However, he really has no control over that. That is a function of the DOJ and FBI and is clear both of those agencies are as krooked as Hillary herself.

Is he perfect? No. He dang sure is working on MAGA and I appreciate his efforts.

[Clay C]

I would love to see a R candidate that is a true fiscal conservative, moderate social conservative, and a model of Christian values. I'm not holding my breath though.

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Unfortunately there aren't many left. All of this hard right talk you hear today is nonsense. The party has been moving left for as long as the Dems have, only with a few interuptions here and there. The only difference is the Dems had a head start. All they do is spend spend spend and spend some more. If it isn't on social programs, or wasteful projects set to fail from the beginning, it's warmongers wanting to jump into every conflict across the globe. All while they laugh in the back seat of limos on the way to deposit their kickbacks.

True conservatives in DC are a dying breed and i'm afraid their won't be any new blood anytime soon. What we saw and are seeing with Trump is a warning to anyone else who tries to come in and bust up their party of elites. They know they aren't getting rid of him. That is a facade. They are sending a message to others who aren't in their club who may try to do the same thing Trump did. Come interrupt our fun and life is going to be very difficult for you and those around you.

[Man]

Man seems like some people are just looking for a father figure in the president.

[175gr7.62]

What's the difference in a representative democracy vs. A republic?

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In a democracy the majority rules. You can end up with wolves and sheep both casting votes to see what's for dinner. It's all good when it's 50/50 but when you get 51 wolves it sucks really bad for the sheep.

With a republic you have some guidelines (the Constitution) that lay some ground rules.......no eating sheep even if 75% of the constituency wants too.

[texasnavy05]

In a democracy the majority rules. You can end up with wolves and sheep both casting votes to see what's for dinner. It's all good when it's 50/50 but when you get 51 wolves it sucks really bad for the sheep.



With a republic you have some guidelines (the Constitution) that lay some ground rules.......no eating sheep even if 75% of the constituency wants too.

That's a pure democracy right?

Afaik a "representative democracy" and a "republic " are synonymous. But it's been a while since I've had a civics class.


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[diamond10x]

Man seems like some people are just looking for a father figure in the president.

No joke. The guys that lived through Reagan and loved him don’t realize, even him being one of the best if not best president in the last 100 years, Reagan wouldn’t even stand half a fighting chance today. There is not 1 person I can think of other than DJT that could have and has stood up and been able to handle all the BS thrown at them.

Some of you that call yourselves republicans/conservatives that don’t like trump and won’t vote for him need to take notes from the dems. If there is one thing they are good at, it’s sticking together. When it all comes down to it and SHTF they will band together no matter what, not whine and waste their vote even if their primary pick didn’t win.

[jer_james]

Some of you that call yourselves republicans/conservatives that don’t like trump and won’t vote for him need to take notes from the dems. If there is one thing they are good at, it’s sticking together. When it all comes down to it and SHTF they will band together no matter what, not whine and waste their vote even if their primary pick didn’t win.

Did you not watch the Democratic Primaries and the Bernie Treatment?

Most say that's the only reason Trump won. Faithful Bernies said heck no after the DNC collusion.

[Shane]

No joke. The guys that lived through Reagan and loved him don’t realize, even him being one of the best if not best president in the last 100 years, Reagan wouldn’t even stand half a fighting chance today. There is not 1 person I can think of other than DJT that could have and has stood up and been able to handle all the BS thrown at them.

Some of you that call yourselves republicans/conservatives that don’t like trump and won’t vote for him need to take notes from the dems. If there is one thing they are good at, it’s sticking together. When it all comes down to it and SHTF they will band together no matter what, not whine and waste their vote even if their primary pick didn’t win.

I think you are underestimating Reagan, Cruz and a few others. Heck, Reagan took a bullet, joked about it, and kept on doing his thing. He defeated the Soviet Union without firing a shot, due to his toughness and resolve. It's pretty hard to argue that he wasn't tough enough to make it in today's world.

[diamond10x]

Did you not watch the Democratic Primaries and the Bernie Treatment?

Most say that's the only reason Trump won. Faithful Bernies said heck no after the DNC collusion.

Every primary race no matter which party, happens that way. They are all trying to stand out among each other then come back together when it counts.