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Originally posted by flywise View PostSo, if a person was able to buy guns legally but then it is determined that that person should have never been able to buy the guns ( like the Texas church shooter) your saying that once he has them....too freakin bad he gets to keep them?
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Originally posted by Ironman View Post
The Texas church shooter, by law, was not legal to buy a gun.
So, regardless, your apparently saying those mistakes can't be undone.
I don't believe that should be the case.
Would be nice if everyone else would answer my question. I give you credit for your response though I disagree.Last edited by flywise; 03-19-2018, 06:10 PM.
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Originally posted by flywise View PostYes I know that's why I used that as an example. Technically he was legal to buy a gun because mistakes were made.
So, regardless, your apparently saying those mistakes can't be undone.
I don't believe that should be the case.
Would be nice if everyone else would answer my question. I give you credit for your response though I disagree.
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Originally posted by flywise View PostSo, if a person was able to buy guns legally but then it is determined that that person should have never been able to buy the guns ( like the Texas church shooter) your saying that once he has them....too freakin bad he gets to keep them?Originally posted by Ironman View PostCorrect!!!Originally posted by Ironman View Post
The Texas church shooter, by law, was not legal to buy a gun.Originally posted by Shane View PostWhat's your reasoning on allowing him to keep guns then?
So, if through some error on the NCIC or other database, a person convicted of a felony, family violence assault or any other offense that disqualified them from purchasing or possessing a firearm, is sold a firearm, even by mistake, they should get to keep it? Even though they never should have had it in the first place?
That's what you wrote, but surely thats not what you meant.Last edited by Roy Munson; 03-19-2018, 08:30 PM.
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Originally posted by Roy Munson View PostMy question too.
So, if through some error on the NCIC or other database, a person convicted of a felony, family violence assault or any other offense that disqualified them from purchasing or possessing a firearm, is sold a firearm, even by mistake, they should get to keep it? Even though they never should have had it in the first place?
That's what you wrote, but surely thats not what you meant.
What are the laws now on family violence? If convicted, are your guns confiscated? If that's the case, then it wasn't only the Navy who missed something, correct? Was he convicted of family violence? Was he convicted of a felony? I ask, because I don't remember the true facts.Last edited by Ironman; 03-19-2018, 09:10 PM.
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Originally posted by Ironman View PostFlywise said if he was able to buy it legally. He wasn't able to buy it legally. Now, he did buy a gun that he shouldn't have been able to, I agree. But what if he already had guns, which it wouldn't surprise me if he did. Should the government have raided his house, and took his guns, once they realized the Navy said that he had disciplinary problems? Maybe after they realized he was dishonorably discharged? Is that a good enough reason to confiscate firearms?
What are the laws now on family violence? If convicted, are your guns confiscated? If that's the case, then it wasn't only the Navy who missed something, correct? Was he convicted of family violence? Was he convicted of a felony?
By the way, why does a dishonorable discharge prevent someone from buying a gun but a documented case of mental illness not prevent the purchase a firearm?
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Originally posted by Ironman View PostIf he was dishonorably discharged and/or convicted of family violence and/or been adjudicated as mentally defective, or several other things, then he lied on that 4473 and of course they can confiscate THAT firearm obviously. What's the due process of firearms already owned?
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Originally posted by Smell the Glove View PostIf we don't trust the govt to get this right I don't see why we trust the govt to make sure the death penalty is done right.
They got it right.
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