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    #31
    Originally posted by Thumper View Post
    Ever hunt mule deer in the canyons out in west TX, you can hear the same rifle shot 3 or 4 times coming from different locations. Buildings have the same echo effect.
    No offense but You obviously haven't researched the Vegas shooting much.
    You may want to do that .
    Last edited by PondPopper; 12-30-2017, 10:29 PM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Artos View Post
      I've seen enough vids to conclude imo that there was more than one shooter as the echo's don't even jive with the round count & noise level...off the charts & insane with all the cameras in LV that none of us, even here on tbh have been unable to produce any links of the one shooter even picking his nose while playing black jack / slots much less checking in. Several hundred rounds fired in the hallway & the one guard / chap goes awol?? Come on.

      No clue or gonna even guess the motive was much less reason for multiples, the absolute & obvious shutdown of the gun hating media who should have been frothing at the mouth on this for weeks only to go what seems willingly silent?? You have several victims who were 'adamant' about these multiple shooters, along with the high profile attny who was representing the venue & celebs who have died bizarre with AGAIN minimal coverage.

      You can poo-poo those wanting to wear the tinfoil, but there is simply no doubt that we are being taken for a ride here & It's really really creepy when you get right down to it, yet the story is all crickets on all outlets?? The biggest mass shooting in US history does not even generate much interest with all this muddy water even now on tbh??

      So much public indifference in general to letting this drift away is just as amazing to me as the actual events itself.
      Exactly... And few seem to even care... Very spooky..
      The general public is like a bunch of programmed bots..

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        #33
        I'm also shocked that the gun ban crowd hasn't been screaming to confiscate bump stocks.

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          #34
          Originally posted by 100%TtId View Post
          I'm also shocked that the gun ban crowd hasn't been screaming to confiscate bump stocks.
          I think they pushed the issue after it first happened. Haven't herd much since. Could be wrong though.

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            #35
            Bullets break the sound barrier. The sonic boom travels with the bullet as long as the velocity is over 1125 fps. When the bullet passes over or by your head you will hear a sharp crack (sonic boom). Next you will hear the report from the gun. Sounds like two shots. 10 shots in your direction sounds like 20 and if there are hard surfaces around like building walls and glass you will most certainly hear echos. Sometimes many echos depending on the angle of sound reflections. Therefore the original 10 shots may sound like 30 or more.
            Anybody that's ever been in combat and been shot at with full auto AK's knows about these sonic booms and how hard it is to locate the shooter's position.

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              #36
              Originally posted by jerp View Post
              I agree with tradtiger. While I am not naive enough to blindly swallow the FBI version of events, the multiple shooter conspiracy theory seems to fall in the “secret too big to keep” category. While the feds are pretty good at stifling truth-tellers, if there were multiple shooters there are too many people that know that for a fact. (Beyond cab driver conjecture) In this day and age it seems impossible to me that they will all keep quiet. And say what you want about the current media, there are a ton of news organizations that would love to break that story especially if they could spin it in a way that made the Trump administration look bad.
              Can you explain the media silence?

              If, right after this shooting, on day 2 or 3 how much would you have wagered the liberal media would have used this event non-stop towards their anti-gun stance?

              Not a single person would have put money they would have just dropped all coverage.

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                #37
                The media silence is baffling but it’s probably because the only news is that there is nothing new to report. I’m sure there are journalists digging but unless there is a leak of some kind we will continue to have only the “official version” of events. At this point however, even if the FBI was 100% forthcoming about what they know, it would satisfy almost no one. I find it impossible to believe - as some have suggested- that the media has dropped it because the gubmint’ told them to.

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                  #38
                  Just as baffling is how liberals are not using it for what they hate most. Figure that one out.

                  All I know is way too much doesn't add up. I'm 100% sure we are being lied to. Don't know why but it's obvious and has been since day 1.

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                    #39
                    For the people who do not believe there's a cover-up:
                    Why is there ZERO video footage of the shooter (it's Vegas, the ONLY place not recorded is the pooper)?

                    Why is the media/leftists silent on this & went silent on this almost immediately?

                    How does the shooters house get broken into while under FBI/LVPD investigation?

                    If his intentions were to just kill as many as possible, why not just fly one of his planes into the crowd & into the fuel storage tank?

                    These are just a couple 'why's' off the top of my head. This whole deal is a real head-scratcher!

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                      #40
                      I think law enforcement is trying to keep this covered to prevent copycat crimes. This nuckle head was a radical democrat that wanted to kill conservatives. They have themselves wrapped up into how horrible Trump is.. Just look at the target and that tells you a lot about the motive. Same with the other idiot that tried to kill republican congressmen and senators at their baseball game. Again look at the target and that tells you the motive.

                      As far as multiple shooters - no. Those other shots were echos.

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                        #41
                        My hope is that they realize this guy was dead before the shooting started, wasn’t the shooter, and they are looking internationally for the actual shooter.

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                          #42
                          Now I know what it was Santa forgot to bring me. I really needed that new tin foil hat.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by muzzlebrake View Post
                            Now I know what it was Santa forgot to bring me. I really needed that new tin foil hat.
                            If your buying what the FBI is selling you had better make that aluminum hat out of something quite a bit thicker than tin foil...

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Maddox View Post
                              My hope is that they realize this guy was dead before the shooting started, wasn’t the shooter, and they are looking internationally for the actual shooter.
                              I'm sure they knew that day 1. It's pretty obvious..

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                                #45
                                Okay, ttaxi, I'll bite for the sake of discussion, after spending some time going down a Google rabbit hole of info on the shooting, aftermath, possible witnesses to multiple shooters, etc.

                                Perhaps the most compelling single strain of information involves a woman -- Kymberley Suschemel, 28 -- who reportedly died at home in her sleep a week after surviving the shooting, but not before posting a detailed account of her experiences during the shooting on Facebook. In the account she mentioned being pursued by multiple shooters ("they") while fleeing the concert venue with friends. However, she was known to suffer from seizures and was on medication at the time she died. I don't necessarily believe in coincidences where a possible conspiracy may be involved, but the young woman certainly could have been stressed due to the shooting and had her condition exacerbated to the point of a fatal seizure.

                                There is also the transcript of police scanner exchanges during and after the shooting. Many references refer to answering calls throughout the Las Vegas strip about shots fired well away from the Mandalay Bay and concert venue area; also these calls were responded to hours after the reported 11:20 pm death of Stephen Paddock. However, all of the hotels and casinos in the area were placed on lock-down during and after the shooting, so, it's unknown how many of the reports and responses were related to real events.

                                Still open to conspiracy evidence, but not at all convinced by what's been brought out to date.

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