Call me whatever you want. I am **** tired of American troops dying in the Middle East. They have fought each other since TIME BEGAN and we cannot change that.
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Originally posted by Tejas Wildlife View PostCall me whatever you want. I am **** tired of American troops dying in the Middle East. They have fought each other since TIME BEGAN and we cannot change that.
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The result of pulling out our troops, besides abandoning an Allie who defeated ISIS, has strengthened the Russians (who are now in our military bases), the Syrians and Assad's Iranians. A minimal force of 1,000 US military supported the Kurds fighting ISIS and kept the Turks, Syria, Iran and Russia in check in the region. With our presence gone, our Kurdish allies and families are being killed, our allies are questioning our commitments and the region is in chaos. So who of you really think this is good for the United States of America?
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Originally posted by TMain View PostThe result of pulling out our troops, besides abandoning an Allie who defeated ISIS, has strengthened the Russians (who are now in our military bases), the Syrians and Assad's Iranians. A minimal force of 1,000 US military supported the Kurds fighting ISIS and kept the Turks, Syria, Iran and Russia in check in the region. With our presence gone, our Kurdish allies and families are being killed, our allies are questioning our commitments and the region is in chaos. So who of you really think this is good for the United States of America?
Me. We aren’t world police. The way Trump pulled out was reckless, but I find it more reckless to occupy the Middle East forever with no plan of leaving. At some point we have to leave and bring our troops home. American citizens do not get to choose how this happens.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostISIS isn't defeated IMO. They have sleeper cells scattered across the globe just waiting for their next act of evil.
Not a fan of they way our troops were pulled out of Syria.
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Originally posted by PlanoDano View PostThen you don't support the new deployment of "thousands of troops" to Saudi Arabia.
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Originally posted by Stoof View PostThe Kurds are some fighting sons of B. Reading their history has gained a little respect. Even in Syria there are large populations is Christian Kurds. They live right along side the Muslim kurds. No problem and it’s been that way for a long time.
At any rate, this won’t be the first time we’ve backed out of a fight with them. If this was actual values at stake we’d live up to our word. That’s what men do.
You’re correct sir. I helped some injured Christian Kurds during Desert Storm. I hope America never has to get in a ground war with them because those folks would be more then a handful to deal with. So for all you guys saying “screw the muslims”, a LOT of the folks we just turned our back on are believers. And virtually none of the Turks are Christians.
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Originally posted by Rcole1310 View PostYou’re correct sir. I helped some injured Christian Kurds during Desert Storm. I hope America never has to get in a ground war with them because those folks would be more then a handful to deal with. So for all you guys saying “screw the muslims”, a LOT of the folks we just turned our back on are believers. And virtually none of the Turks are Christians.
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From what I have read and heard, the "Kurds" in Iraq and the Kurds in Syria are vastly different groups... Lots of Christian Kurds in Kurdistan in Iraq. The Syrian Kurds are mostly Muslim and a radical group...
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I am kind of with Slick. But I think the Muslim Kurds are the more tolerant of the Muslims in the region. The fact remains that area is splintered along so many ethic, religious, and tribal sects that it is hard to figure out who the "good guys" are.
To they guys that want us to stay there. At what point do you bring troops home, what is the objective/mission/finish line?
"The KRG admits that its religious tolerance stems from a long history of suffering at the hands of “Islamic brothers.” Both their suffering, as well as their rich history have made Kurds particularly welcoming of other religions. The Kurdish people are not Arabs, but rather historically identify with the Medes, an ancient people described in the Bible"
“This decision is a result of our Kurdish history,” says Mariwan Naquishbandi, spokesman for the KRG’s Ministry of Religious Affairs. “Kurdish Islam is not the Islam of Saudi Arabia or Iran. We have often been made to suffer by those who were our Islamic brothers. It has made us more tolerant, more able to see the good that other religions offer to Kurdish society.”Last edited by batmaninja; 10-16-2019, 01:28 PM.
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