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muzzlebrake 06-09-2018 10:13 AM

Exotic wood help
 
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I am in need of a good source for knife handle material. Do any of you knife makers have a good source for exotic woods that you can share. I can find plenty on ebay and the knife supply websites but some of the prices are crazy high and what you end up getting is hardly ever what they show in the pictures.
I like to buy 2"x2" and 1.5"x1.5" 16" to 24" long and then cut it up on my band saw to get my scales so I can control the grain direction better.
I am down to a small amount now and need to make another 20 knives before Sept 1st. This is all I have left and I need about 4-5 times this much.
Obviously I need mostly hard dense woods.

TIA

dustoffer 06-09-2018 12:03 PM

If you have a Rocklers or Woodcraft nearby you might check them out. I've found some pretty nice deals there. Also, if there are any custom furniture builders in your area check them too. They often have shorts and cut-offs that are nice grain but too small to use.

WildThings 06-09-2018 02:08 PM

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Am I going to make your day!! www.woodbarter.com

read the rules - start an introduction thread - enjoy

I grabbed these Royal Poinciana the other day

muzzlebrake 06-09-2018 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WildThings (Post 13421062)
Am I going to make your day!! www.woodbarter.com

read the rules - start an introduction thread - enjoy

I grabbed these Royal Poinciana the other day

Holy Moly! Them are nice chunks. Thanks for the tips. I'll check this one out.

Reelthreat 06-09-2018 02:39 PM

Woodcraft stores usually have a great selection with pretty good prices. If you have stuff to stabilize it is even more reasonable.

muzzlebrake 06-09-2018 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Reelthreat (Post 13421095)
Woodcraft stores usually have a great selection with pretty good prices. If you have stuff to stabilize it is even more reasonable.

I buy some stuff from Woodcraft and have gotten some really good wood there. Unfortunately the one near me is out of the worthy stuff I am looking for. I guess cause I bought it all:D

TP3 06-09-2018 03:45 PM

What species are you looking for?

muzzlebrake 06-09-2018 04:13 PM

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What species are you looking for?

Cocobolo, Wenge, Bocote, Ironwood, black ebony, black and red palm, any of the burl woods. I also use linen and canvas micarta in various colors, Red/black, Green/black, blue/black.

Another thought is to buy some of these giant cow bones for dogs and cut off the joint ball then clean out the inside and fill the whole thing with epoxy. After that I can slice it up on the band saw into handle scales that should polish up nicely and last forever. Might be cost prohibitive since epoxy is so high.

TP3 06-09-2018 04:33 PM

I can send you some wenge, zebra wood, lacewood, maybe a few other burlys or random exotics. Send me a pm if you are interested.

TP3 06-09-2018 04:34 PM

Raw, kiln dried pieces. You would have to stabilize them yourself.

trooperjd 06-09-2018 05:05 PM

I bought wood online from private sellers and stabilized with an acrylic vacuum chamber, cactus juice and a vacuum pump. It did a good job and made a many nice pens and game calls.

muzzlebrake 06-09-2018 06:18 PM

pm sent

WildThings 06-09-2018 08:55 PM

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Here's a few stabilized big leaf maple from said site and my box of desert ironwood cutoffs

Kossetx 06-10-2018 04:23 PM

Have access to any woodlands? I have lots of wood and I get it out my back door. IMO, its as exotic as any wood.

Here's one I redid for my wife
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My EDC's with a landing net I built
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Another 110
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Not trying to hijack. just showing how exotic is what you see it as.

Pete

Horn chaser 06-10-2018 09:21 PM

I use these guys some for exotic bow wood. rosewoodarchery.com, cookwoods.com, gilmerwood.com. Rosewood has the best prices and supplies black widow bows with most of their bow wood. Not to mention very fast shipping and located pretty close.

Jason Fry 06-10-2018 09:34 PM

Look up Terry Dunn on FB. I think he is Rubydog on TBH. Best wood dealer in the state.


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Hawkpuppy 1 06-11-2018 10:11 AM

I use to get all my wood from Bad Dog Burl up in the NE. Great selections and good guy

TP3 06-11-2018 10:32 AM

Pmd you again steve

muzzlebrake 06-11-2018 11:32 AM

thanks guys for all the good leads on wood

Hoyt Man 06-11-2018 10:05 PM

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look up terry dunn on fb. I think he is rubydog on tbh. Best wood dealer in the state.


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Bjankowski 06-12-2018 06:26 AM

The ticket is to buy big blocks and process your own, buying stabilized scales are outrageous!

muzzlebrake 06-12-2018 06:58 AM

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The ticket is to buy big blocks and process your own, buying stabilized scales are outrageous!

That's what I been trying to do and have gotten some pretty good looking wood doing this. My saw will slice veneer thickness if I need to. I think the key to how well a band saw works is the blade and the tires on the wheel. Since I went to the high end Lenox blades and Blue Max tires my saw has been awesome on both wood and metal.

Bjankowski 06-12-2018 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by muzzlebrake (Post 13425546)
That's what I been trying to do and have gotten some pretty good looking wood doing this. My saw will slice veneer thickness if I need to. I think the key to how well a band saw works is the blade and the tires on the wheel. Since I went to the high end Lenox blades and Blue Max tires my saw has been awesome on both wood and metal.

I've been buying 3 TPI bandsaw blades and depending on how hard the wood is they last ok. Hardwood does eat up blades. I also run everything through my Porter Cable power planner so I can get each piece exactly the size I want.
I have a big chunk of mystery burl here that I need to tackle, the first time I tried to cut it I burned up a brand new band saw blade the first inch! It's hard. I'm going to use a hand saw on it whenever I remember to mess with it.

muzzlebrake 06-12-2018 10:08 AM

I burl that eats saw blades? Dried burl mesquite or Bois d arc maybe? Red oak is bad on blades but I have not seen any in burl. The sand in old dried mesquite will kill a new chainsaw blade like right now.
I use a Lenox Diemaster 6 tpi blade running at 3300 ipm and it cuts hard burl, cocobolo, bocote, ebony and red oak like butter.
I am a believer in those neoprene BlueMax wheel tires. No slip and no wandering ever. they are a bear to get on the wheel even with the tool they come with. Soaking in hot water for 10 minutes helps a lot and use a little soapy water as lube.

FYI Delta Industrial Supply Company Inc. in Ft Worth has the best price on Lenox blades and will make them up while you wait.

Puggy625 06-13-2018 09:36 PM

It's a bit of a drive for you, but the Woodcraft in Plano has a lot of great wood to choose from. It'd be worth the drive for you if you buy a bunch of it. If I had a good bandsaw I'd be getting most of my wood there and stabilizing it myself. Plan on doing just that in the next year or so.

Bjankowski 06-13-2018 10:00 PM

I've been dealing the folks at D & R Saw and tools in Dallas for almost 40 years, great family owned business.

150class 06-13-2018 10:11 PM

Terry sales wood for handles I believe

Haven’t seen him in here for awhile now though

Horn chaser 06-13-2018 10:34 PM

If you are looking in the Dallas area Wood World over on TI Blvd is a good store to find some wood. Also Rockler is another good store to check into.

Hawkpuppy 1 06-14-2018 07:44 AM

Didn't think about it before, but I have about 40-50 blocks of mesquite that is dried I need to get rid of. Blocks are all about 1.5"x1.5" and about 3" long. I also have a decent sized piece of desert ironwood burl that you could probably get about 20 or so scales out of if anyone is interested....

Bjankowski 06-14-2018 01:53 PM

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Didn't think about it before, but I have about 40-50 blocks of mesquite that is dried I need to get rid of. Blocks are all about 1.5"x1.5" and about 3" long. I also have a decent sized piece of desert ironwood burl that you could probably get about 20 or so scales out of if anyone is interested....

PM me a price bro, I'm interested.

White Falcon 06-14-2018 02:22 PM

Would be interested also.

muzzlebrake 06-14-2018 07:27 PM

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Pmd you again steve

Thanks TP3
Got the box today. Some pretty good stuff in there.

TP3 06-14-2018 07:34 PM

No problem bud.
Hopefully you can make you a few out of there.
What didn't make a table top or a bow ends up becoming a knife. That's a fitting end.

muzzlebrake 06-15-2018 09:45 AM

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No problem bud.
Hopefully you can make you a few out of there.
What didn't make a table top or a bow ends up becoming a knife. That's a fitting end.

You are right and I did a little sawing this am. Got enough blanks to last a while. Jabota, Wenge, Zebra, Tigerwood, Ebony, Walnut and the precut Leopard wood. And I only sawed up about 1/3rd of it. One of these days I will get me a stabilizer setup and make some crazy dyed stuff.

hunting270 06-15-2018 07:27 PM

There is a place in San Marcos called South Texas Mesquite. The guys name is Benito. I don't know what all he mills but I was told by my neighbor that you could buy a pickup load of scraps for $25. His number is 830-303-4818. Just FYI.

muzzlebrake 06-16-2018 06:44 PM

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I can see a piece of this nice Zebra wood on the handle of another Heller hoof rasp Frog Sticker Bowie before long. Should have the weight in the wood to balance nicely and look good too. The red tang bighoof rasps are 19" oal including tang so I can easily get a 10"+ blade. The last one I made.

chopsknives 06-16-2018 07:27 PM

You can get a hand pump I think it's a brake bleeder hand pump and it has a dial pressure indicator and then get a mason ball jar - drill a hole in the top and bolt a nipple on with a washer and some epoxy under the washer to make it super airtight then run a hose to the bleeder and fill the jar with a stabilizing oil such as linseed. Then pump it up to as close to 28 pounds as you can get and check frequently as it will need more hand pumping till the bubbles coming out of the wood slow way down. You can also use a stabilizing resin. Harbor freight your looking at like 20-25 bucks all total for the pump, parts and hose. For the hose - wanna use a thick walled or reinforced hose so it don't collapse - when the bubbles stop take the wood out and let it dry out for oil or put it in a baggie in boiling water for an hour for resin stabilizing. Remember on resin you must keep it cool or it will set up in the heat here in Texas. Outdoors I set the jar in a pan with some ice water. On an electric vacuum pump If your not setup right with a resin trap or a oil trap it will pull into the pump and it is fried!! Look on youtube there is a vid of it too wanna stabilize all non oily wood. Cow bones need to be cooked to get the fatty oil out before you stabilize but def needs to be stabilized - hope this helps

chopsknives 06-16-2018 07:29 PM

BTW I've done this many times and never had a jar break but you can wrap a towel around it to ensure you don't get injured - this is the redneck method so use at your own risk but I couldn't afford to go fancy when I first started

Kossetx 06-16-2018 10:02 PM

Not to disagree with chops but I was never able to keep a vaccuum more than two minutes with a brake bleeder and don't think I ever got past 23 in of vaccuum. That was while standing there for 10 minutes pumping which gets old really quick. If your really interested in stabilizing I'd skip that and get a electic pump. I built mine with a compressor from a mini fridge that I had been trying to give away. No one wanted it and I'm now glad they didn't. I get better penetration in 15 minutes with a electric pump than I get in 12 hours of hand pumping. I too use a 1 gal glass jar.

muzzlebrake 06-17-2018 08:17 AM

I've seen a few old AC service guys with their own Vacuum pump made from a refrigerator pot. I even had me one for a time. Good ideas guys. Now if'n I can just find me one of them big mouth gallon jars.

chopsknives 06-17-2018 11:14 AM

I just get the dill pickles in the gallon mason jars and repurpose. I can hit about 26 pounds with the handpump and have to pump back up 3-4 times and then it sits purdy good - I also fill the pot purdy full do less air and a short hose but I really can't afford to ruin someones keepsake materials is why I use that method

Bjankowski 06-18-2018 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chopsknives (Post 13433638)
On an electric vacuum pump If your not setup right with a resin trap or a oil trap it will pull into the pump and it is fried!


Yep learned it the hard way after buying three pumps... I rebuilt the first one that did that, and even the second one, the third one I just threw in the trash. :D:D:D:D...

muzzlebrake 06-19-2018 07:52 AM

I guess I know what my next poor man's project is:D

TP3 06-24-2018 05:12 PM

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Nice work Steve, ready to get some blood on it.


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