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Pushbutton2 11-14-2015 04:15 PM

10 - 700 yd hog gun
 
Will be used for WT as well

These options are on the shelf

Mosdberg Patriot w/ accu trigger
Savage Axis
AR10 in .308
AR15 in 5.56/.223

My concern with the .223 is the 65 grain bullet
AR10 is heavy

Which caliber

.243
.270
6.5 creedmoor
.308
.30-07

orlybow 11-14-2015 04:34 PM

Definitely go with the .30-07...[emoji106]

Slick8 11-14-2015 04:43 PM

Not many people know about the 30-07, some great improvements were made that year....too bad it's always been somewhat of a wildcat...:cool:

Seriously, any of those will do it but all will be running out of steam at that range.

Also, based on your bolt action budget, you'll be hard pressed to find an AR in that budget to shoot accurately...IMO. You're really asking a lot of those bolt guns as well for 700 yards.

I'd also look at a mod 700 ADL or Sav Mod 10 Predator with the accu-stock.

cbd10pt 11-14-2015 05:01 PM

7mm ultramag

Pushbutton2 11-14-2015 05:04 PM

10 - 700 yd hog gun
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orlybow (Post 10753748)
Definitely go with the .30-30 and 7mm mag [emoji106]


It's a cross between the 30-06 and 7mm Mag ;-)
Lol

hooligan 11-14-2015 05:10 PM

6.5

Capt.Bryan 11-14-2015 05:13 PM

With your bolt action budget look for a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 creedmore. Should be 500 dollars or less, high BC factory ammo is available at a reasonable price and should have the energy needed out to 800 yards. Most reviews I have been reading people have been getting less than 1 moa groups. Several videos on you tube taking 6.5 creedmoor out for long range shooting.

hweissert 11-14-2015 05:14 PM

2nd on the 6.5. It's a deadly round.

orlybow 11-14-2015 05:18 PM

This is for sale in the classifieds right now...Winchester 300wsm for sale or trade

overcomer401965 11-14-2015 05:25 PM

6.5 Grendel

Avezorak 11-14-2015 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt.Bryan (Post 10753907)
With your bolt action budget look for a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 creedmore. Should be 500 dollars or less, high BC factory ammo is available at a reasonable price and should have the energy needed out to 800 yards. Most reviews I have been reading people have been getting less than 1 moa groups. Several videos on you tube taking 6.5 creedmoor out for long range shooting.


For a budget gun, I think this is as close as you are gonna get to meeting your needs

randal 11-14-2015 05:38 PM

.270

WTJim 11-14-2015 09:22 PM

6.5 Grendel in an AR type rifle

Brute Killer 11-14-2015 09:44 PM

Before I opened the thread, the thought I had was '308', so, that. Maybe in one of the bolt guns if you're not into the AR.

Pushbutton2 11-14-2015 09:45 PM

Can you put the accu trigger on a Savage?

bowpro12 11-14-2015 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushbutton2 (Post 10754927)
Can you put the accu trigger on a Savage?

Savage is the originator of this trigger. It's the standard on all the Savages for last several years.

You cannot retrofit an accu-trigger onto a "pre" model without extensive knowledge and experience work.

Bradley 11-14-2015 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WTJim (Post 10754818)
6.5 Grendel in an AR type rifle

This;)b

pkee 11-15-2015 05:46 AM

6.5 Grendel is one bad round . Watch a few utube videos , and you will see the light .lol .

gumbl3 11-15-2015 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushbutton2 (Post 10754927)
Can you put the accu trigger on a Savage?

For $90 and ten minutes worth of work you can add a rifle basix sav-1 trigger to any savage or axis.

It's a nice trigger once you get it adjusted to your liking

Pushbutton2 11-22-2015 10:09 AM

So I have a lead in a couple of deals
One is a Mossberg patriot in 300 win mag

One is a Savage axis in 30-07:-)

Or a 7mm mag

TacticalCowboy 11-22-2015 06:51 PM

22 LR nitro.

RMW 11-22-2015 07:41 PM

.338 lapua! If the hog came out at 10 yards I would wait till he got a little further out though. Lol

okrattler 11-22-2015 08:01 PM

6.5x284

TacticalCowboy 11-22-2015 09:12 PM

If you're shooting hogs at 700 yards, why are you concerned with the weight of the rifle?

UniqueUserName 11-22-2015 09:27 PM

6.5 CM really shines at long range with the high BC bullets.

Pintail45 11-23-2015 12:41 AM

Savage Axis in 25.06 gets my vote

meltingfeather 11-23-2015 11:31 AM

.308

gmac 11-23-2015 11:44 AM

Saving up for a 6.5 Creedmore AR for this purpose.

BrianL 11-23-2015 11:50 AM

For a 700 yard gun you need at least 1/2 MOA and a DANG good scope and range finder for the options listed. I would look at a 7 mm mag as the minimum and 300 WSM or 300 WM as you best options, or cut back to 500 yards and all the above are still good choices.

Mike D 11-23-2015 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt.Bryan (Post 10753907)
With your bolt action budget look for a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 creedmore. Should be 500 dollars or less, high BC factory ammo is available at a reasonable price and should have the energy needed out to 800 yards. Most reviews I have been reading people have been getting less than 1 moa groups. Several videos on you tube taking 6.5 creedmoor out for long range shooting.


Long range shooting and long range killing are two totally different things. 700 yards is right on the edge of where reliable killing is for certain.

Slick8 11-23-2015 03:09 PM

For all you guys saying anything in a short action even the 6.5 Creed which seems to be other-worldly, I can't see it.

They will all punch paper much farther than that.

I'm shooting a very high BC 168 grain 7 mag at 3050 fps and consider 7-800 yards it's absolute max. Reason being-Impact velocity. Most bullet manufacture's list 1800 fps as their minimum velocity for reliable expansion...there's no way you can convince me of a 6.5 creed maintaining this...

But what do I know, I've never shot an animal beyond 450...

Additionally, I agree with a post above, you need a .5 MOA rifle out to expected distance and high quality glass to repeatedly do it.

Limbwalker 11-23-2015 03:13 PM

Carrying or truck gun?

Personally, the Ruger Gunsite Scout looks like one helluva hog gun to me.

WyoBull 11-23-2015 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbd10pt (Post 10753858)
7mm ultramag

x2

Lungbustr 11-23-2015 03:47 PM

Have you ever shot 700 yards? Your mentioning guns that would be some of the absolute worst choices if somebody wanted to shoot 700 yards.

Also what's your budget? An ar in 308 is way different price range than the other guns you are mentioning.

ThePap 11-23-2015 03:47 PM

Ruger American or Mossberg Patriot in either 30-06 or .308 will so the job! but I hear that 30-07 is a stomper! hehe

Pushbutton2 11-23-2015 08:14 PM

10 - 700 yd hog gun
 
I've shot 500 yds prone with iron sights in the Corps with the M16A1.

The bulk of my shots should 200 or less.
We have one setup on the lease that's 650 yds from camp. Thought it'd be cool to sit in camp and lay waste to some pigs at 0300 I'm my pajamas.

The lease mgr used to build and shoot long range guns.

Arrowthreat 11-23-2015 08:16 PM

M&p 10 .308

Pushbutton2 11-30-2015 08:46 AM

Found a new Remington 700 in 7mm mag with a 26" barrel for $377 with a cheap 3-9 scope
Would this work

dpg481 11-30-2015 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushbutton2 (Post 10814233)
Found a new Remington 700 in 7mm mag with a 26" barrel for $377 with a cheap 3-9 scope
Would this work

Just remember in a light, standard style 700, that 7mag is gonna hit you hard. I had one in a heavy stainless ruger hawkeye and it was hard on the body. Needless to say I got rid of it.

Pushbutton2 11-30-2015 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpg481 (Post 10814243)
Just remember in a light, standard style 700, that 7mag is gonna hit you hard. I had one in a heavy stainless ruger hawkeye and it was hard on the body. Needless to say I got rid of it.


I've heard the same about the .300 win mag :(

Homer75 11-30-2015 12:26 PM

Go with the 300WSM, it's not that bad to shoot.

Chris

Horitexan 11-30-2015 02:37 PM

Anything 6.5 - 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5-284, .260 Rem, etc. It's a pleasure to shoot all day long, high BC, 140gr is plenty for anything in TX and it's winning more LR competitions than any other caliber.

The Savage Predator model is capable of more than you're asking for, right out of the box.

Pushbutton2 11-30-2015 07:18 PM

I wonder if this will work ;-))

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zEL1YMwcSpM

super_dave 11-30-2015 07:23 PM

Savage axis in 25-06 and then spend 3x the cost on glass.

billfromtx 12-01-2015 08:29 AM

300 winmag

BrianL 12-01-2015 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushbutton2 (Post 10816747)
I wonder if this will work ;-))

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zEL1YMwcSpM

My guess is yes, but you might need a dolly to carry it to your stand!:)

Pushbutton2 12-24-2015 07:34 PM

My buddy just called. He took a Savage Model 12 in 300WSM in on trade with a laminate stock. He's giving me 1st dibs [emoji41] I'm going to see it Saturday...

JW 12-24-2015 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick8 (Post 10789198)
For all you guys saying anything in a short action even the 6.5 Creed which seems to be other-worldly, I can't see it.

They will all punch paper much farther than that.

I'm shooting a very high BC 168 grain 7 mag at 3050 fps and consider 7-800 yards it's absolute max. Reason being-Impact velocity. Most bullet manufacture's list 1800 fps as their minimum velocity for reliable expansion...there's no way you can convince me of a 6.5 creed maintaining this...

But what do I know, I've never shot an animal beyond 450...

Additionally, I agree with a post above, you need a .5 MOA rifle out to expected distance and high quality glass to repeatedly do it.


Swap to a Berger. It has a lower working range.

Pushbutton2 12-25-2015 06:08 AM

10 - 700 yd hog gun
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragin' (Post 10909405)
Swap to a Berger. It has a lower working range.

Long range hunting bullets:
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=568690

Hey Ragin, First off Merry Christmas!!!

I know you from some of my other threads.
Everyone says you're extremely knowledgeable about Broadheads. Which I am insanely jealous of btw [emoji3]

I take your comments seriously just like I do muddyfuzzys' when it come to arrow building.


The thread I linked to recommends to stay away from Berbers...
I'm in the hunt or a 300WM or 300WSM. See my previous post
So all this blah blah blah to ask u this? Will you expound on your answer?

kumathebear 12-25-2015 09:16 AM

Glad I can't see past "maybe" 300 yards....6.5CM


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