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Chunky 06-14-2018 10:36 AM

Pasture waterline project
 
I am getting ready to run water out to my cow pens. Itís appropriately a hundred yards. This will save me trailering water when I have the need to keep an animal contained.

I welcome any tips or suggestions on the project. I am going to tie in at my shop/barn where I have city water supply (PVC) and a shutoff valve.

Kingfisher789 06-14-2018 10:38 AM

Bury it deep enough that when it gets muddy they can’t step on pipe

Dirtymike 06-14-2018 10:38 AM

homedepot trencher rental 199 a day. Go deep and use 3/4 in PVC. Should be pretty inexpensive project.

BolilloLoco 06-14-2018 10:50 AM

Thought about using PEX? Bury it deep. Stay away from the roads. Rent a trencher. Use Christy's Red Hot Blue Glue, if using PVC. Add separate brass shut-off valve for that circuit. Use copper or galvanized above ground for hose bib. Add extra hose bib(s) along the way for future use.

brokeno 06-14-2018 11:04 AM

Make sure you mark it someway or take pictures so if you ever need to find it again. Go bigger than you think with pipe and plenty of cut offs.

westtexducks 06-14-2018 11:29 AM

Bury it deep as you can with the ditch witch. Put a shutoff on both ends. Put it in a place where it will see low traffic, wont get driven on by vehicles. It is worth going around or making it longer to avoid getting run over as that will eventually break it out. Go get the pvc from a plumbing supply store that has the collars built into the pipe. Not home depot or lowes variety. Mark your valves and line if possible or put it in a spot where you will remember it. Cutting across a pasture can be a pain later if you have to find it again. Also if you ever want to work it for something other than cows could be an issue later compared to be stuck on the edge of a road or fence. Put your hose bibs in a spot where the cows cant get to them and wrap all exposed pipe with insulation and then a good cover of pipe wrap tape to keep from freezing and having uv degradation.


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Chunky 06-14-2018 11:59 AM

Fantastic tips. Thanks so much. I was not sure if PVC was the best option.

westtexducks 06-14-2018 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BolilloLoco (Post 13429586)
Thought about using PEX? Bury it deep. Stay away from the roads. Rent a trencher. Use Christy's Red Hot Blue Glue, if using PVC. Add separate brass shut-off valve for that circuit. Use copper or galvanized above ground for hose bib. Add extra hose bib(s) along the way for future use.



I hate pex it always leaks and causes issues. If going to go that route lay down poly pipe and be done with it.

Forgot to mention earlier if your in super rocky ground I would add a layer of good dirt or sand in the trench lay your pipe then cover it with couple inches of good dirt/sand then burry. Will keep rocks from eventually wearing a hole in your line as it expands and contracts.


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TeamAmerica 06-14-2018 12:07 PM

Do you have a tractor? If so, you could get a sub soiler attachment for <$200 and lay poly pipe in about 15 minutes. Lots of videos online on how to do it (assuming the soil isn't really rocky). Otherwise rent a trencher and the longest pvc sticks you can find/transport. Assemble the pvc above ground and then roll it into the trench - don't bother trying to glue in the trench. Pex is an option, although i'm not sure how it does buried.

Chunky 06-14-2018 12:12 PM

My ground is soft. All clay so that is not an issue. I have a nice 45 HP tractor

BosqueTech 06-14-2018 12:21 PM

Do you have a barn that you can catch the water from? Make you a rain catcher!

sticks 06-14-2018 12:52 PM

Black poly pipe! 100’ rolls. Less joints , wont crack, more freeze resistant than pvc

bigbad243 06-14-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sticks (Post 13429820)
Black poly pipe! 100í rolls. Less joints , wont crack, more freeze resistant than pvc

This for sure

stinkbelly 06-14-2018 01:14 PM

Are you only running one straight line?

coachwhip 06-14-2018 01:29 PM

Poly pipe is great AS long as you don't have gophers, if you have them then go with pvc.

Chunky 06-14-2018 01:34 PM

Itís going to be one line, with 5 watering points.

Saddlehorse 06-14-2018 01:41 PM

Use 1Ē pvc schedule 40 donít use the light stuff
Do not bury deeper than 12Ē it makes it difficult to fix if you have a leak
Also pressure up your line before you cover it
Put a larger pipe over your riser and fill with sand to protect from freezing

2B4Him 06-14-2018 02:40 PM

Lots of great suggestions here and probably all from folks that know more than me. But for me, I would definitely use PVC.
My experience: Plumbers used black pipe (poly? pex? I don't know) from my well to the house. Swimming pool contractor cut it at 4:30 on a Friday afternoon. It was almost impossible to find fittings needed to fix it so that I would have water for the weekend. If it is PVC and you have a problem - fittings/parts, etc. are easy to find anywhere.

denimdeerslayer 06-14-2018 03:04 PM

Protect the pipe coming up or they will break them scratching.

Bruiser 06-14-2018 03:09 PM

pvc is not uv rated so make sure its covered above ground and

Chunky 06-14-2018 03:11 PM

Thanks again everyone who took time to respond.

friscopaint 06-14-2018 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by coachwhip (Post 13429911)
Poly pipe is great AS long as you don't have gophers, if you have them then go with pvc.

What I was gonna say !!! I ran 700' with 20ft sticks of 1 in pvc sched 40, they have built in female coupling on one end, very simple

BigYoung 06-14-2018 06:31 PM

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stxhunter 06-14-2018 08:13 PM

Great thread. I've been thinking of doing the same thing out at our place. If I were to use poly pipe, what brand do you guys suggest?

TXDraht 06-14-2018 08:43 PM

I wouldn’t use anything smaller than 1 1/2”. Reduce down at each faucet.

Big pig 06-14-2018 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbad243 (Post 13429835)
This for sure

I just put in a black poly line for my future home site.
Ditch witch makes trenching quick and easy.
Rolled pipe is easy, connectors simple with rented gadget.

Drycreek3189 06-14-2018 09:58 PM

Go with the "frost free" faucets, then you'll never have to worry about them freezing. I did at my other place, but at home I have to insulate the one at my shop every winter.

merlin 06-14-2018 10:30 PM

Agreeing with several on here. No poly. 1" pvc 20joints with belled end 1 x 3/4 tees or 1" x 1/2 for faucets. about a foot deep. when coming up for faucets, use a 1' galvanized nipple, galv. 90, and 2 or 3' galv riser

bobc 06-14-2018 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Saddlehorse (Post 13429957)
Use 1Ē pvc schedule 40 donít use the light stuff

Do not bury deeper than 12Ē it makes it difficult to fix if you have a leak

Also pressure up your line before you cover it

Put a larger pipe over your riser and fill with sand to protect from freezing



I am interested in the concept of the large pipe over the small one for a couple of areas I have. Question regarding such.... say it rains before it freezes and water gets in the mix of the sand in the larger pipe. Will this still keep the water line pipe from freezing solid?


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Saddlehorse 06-14-2018 11:06 PM

I only have to cover the faucet in freezing weather or let it drip never had it freeze up.


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