I've never used a trail, but do own a Thermion XP38. I have been thoroughly impressed with it. Killed 6 pigs with it so far and it has been perfect in every way. One thing I really like about it is the internal battery in addition to a removable one. You dont have to turn it off to put another battery in.

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Id go XP 50. Ive got a Trail XP50LRF and had an Trail XP 38 that i used as a scanner until somewhat recently, and have access to a couple Thermions as well. Both a 38 and 50.

Im not a fan of shooting with too much magnification, but the XP50 seems to be just right for most of out situations. We do a lot of spot and stalk to within 20-50 yds, then open op and shoot well past that. I ran my XP38 on a short barreled 556 a couple times, and it did well. I preferred it for scanning more than shooting though. I want a Thermion for a couple bolt guns, and dont really have a preference of one over the other. I do like the battery packs of the Trail much better though. Better battery life, and im not a fan of swapping in the middle of the night if possible. I can make it a full night on the ISP5, and easily with the 10.

Depends on if you care about size. I prefer the size of the thermion and the look compared to the big box shape of the Trail. The thermion just feels like a natural scope to me. I’d go XP 50 in the thermion. Both are great scopes though. The thermion has great battery life, and is easy to switch the secondary battery. Easier than the trail IMO.

Love my XP50 - see my recent video in the KAP 2020 thread.


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Thermion xp50

Thermion is just as good as the trail with a slightly better picture

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Oh and if youre looking to buy new hold off just a little bit longer. Theyre putting a new sensor in the Trails and Thermions that will give a little better performance.

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Somebody's been talking to their CPA! ;.)

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Just to throw out a little info and clear up any confusion, because I still get a lot of questions about the Pulsar Trails.

The Trails have all been discontinued, effective January 1, 2020. The XP38's were discontinued almost a year ago due to their unpopularity because the 1.2x base magnification is too low for most people. Some of them hung around on the shelves for most of the year because the demand was just so low. The last shipment of Trail XP50's was back in the fall, many months ago now.

The Trail LRF (laser range finders) are still available in the XQ38 LRF, XQ50 LRF and the XP50 LRF models. There will be no new regular Trail models. The new scopes announced at SHOT Show were the Trail LRF 2. They will only be produced in the XQ50 LRF and XP50 LRF models.

All regular (non-LRF) thermal scope production has moved to the Thermions that came out last year. The Trails would have been phased out sooner but since they Thermions didn't ship until late summer they just kept the Trails around for 2019 until the parts ran out.

The Thermion XP38 is 1.5x and it is being phased out now and all XP production will be focused on the Thermion XP50 at 2x.

The Thermion XP38 is fine for close range shots, mostly shots under 100-150 yards, just like the Trail XP50 was. If you think you might want to scan or shoot farther distances the Thermion XP50 is a better choice. Both are great scopes though.

As of today we have a couple Thermion XP38's left in stock and we should have some XP50's in stock by tomorrow.

I hope that info helps.

Jason

That helps! I'll be ordering through you as soon as I make a decision. Is it worth waiting for the new Thermions to come out; and if so, what are the upgrades add-ons for the newer model Thermion?

magnification is great but DO consider FOV. If your going to use it as a scanner and a riflescope you are going to want a wide FOV. I have had the 38 for several years and have shot coyotes and hogs out to 250 yds.