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    Switching shooting styles

    I'm just curious about something. If you as a trad shooter experienced a severe case of target panic - say, locking up off-target - might you consider switching to shooting pins with a release aid, at least temporarily?

    My reason for asking is that I've observed improvement (if not a total cure) for those few guys who have done so, then gone back to their recurve, shooting fingers. However, it's been my experience that trad guys are really reluctant to do so; therefore, I don't have a statistically viable sample to be able to say it's definitely the way to go.

    So.... would you?

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    Have some Crown before I shoot to relax me.

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      #3
      I switch between three under and split finger with success. My tp is much better but I don't know if I can ever beat it.


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        #4
        No.

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          #5
          Can't imagine going to a release, personally, unless some injury limited use of fingers.

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            #6
            Andy,

            I've been telling folks for years, that training with a single pin sight will actually help them overcome TP, and even if they don't have TP, it will help develop their sight picture (when without the pin), and improve accuracy.

            It doesn't have to be anything elaborate either. Simply taping something like a toothpick to your riser works perfectly for a training tool.

            I don't however recommend using a release aid for training for someone who intends to primarily/exclusively shoot fingers. The release aid changes the dynamics of the bow/arrow tune, and changes the anchor point to much to be training with for finger shooting.

            Just use a simple pin, and shoot with your fingers is what I recommend, and what I have done for myself to great success.

            Rick

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              #7
              I would do whatever it took to keep me relevant as a hunter.

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                #8
                I'm not a traditional shooter but when I started shooting a compound back in the 80's I shot with fingers. I had a sever case of target panic and even dry fired my bow once when I decided I would draw back my bow without a arrow and aim at the target. I did this because I new I wouldn't release without a arrow. Man was I wrong, my target panic kicked in a I released dry firing my bow. I had it so bad as soon as I would get anywhere near my target I would release. Then a few years later I went to a release and that helped out big time but still to this day I fight some target panic. Like one other poster mentioned, when you go from fingers to a release it changes everything and I think it would be a major pain to be switching back and forth.

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                  #9
                  I don't understand the concept of target panic. Drawing a bow and releasing an arrow at a target is a fairly simple action. What would cause one to panic in that process? I grew up shooting compounds and recurves instinctively using my fingers. Learn to shoot where you look. I watched all the videos on string walking and gap aiming. That made me panic!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by speck1 View Post
                    I don't understand the concept of target panic. Drawing a bow and releasing an arrow at a target is a fairly simple action. What would cause one to panic in that process? I grew up shooting compounds and recurves instinctively using my fingers. Learn to shoot where you look. I watched all the videos on string walking and gap aiming. That made me panic!
                    Target panic is a mental condition.

                    As you said, drawing, aiming, release is a simple action. So simple, you don't have to think about it. Those who strive to shoot instinctive desire that... at least when it is working. But when it isn't working, and you can't get that sequence back under control, you have "target panic".

                    Those who shoot gap, pins, releases, etc can still have the same issue. Because deep down, something has to make the decision to let go and when.

                    Having a checklist of your sequence helps... it helps to force your brain to not let go until you have consiously confirmed that a surprise release is okay.

                    I tend to fend of TP by allowing myself to draw down if something doesn't feel right.

                    Granted, I have convinced myself the shot is okay when it wasn't (forced), said "screw it!", I flinch, torque, pluck, etc... but have never let go of an arrow uncontrollably. I have an intentional conscious trigger.





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                      #11
                      Swamp,
                      Thanks for the explanation. I still don't get how you can just release before you are ready over and over. I can understand a bad release every once in a while but muscle memory should have you pretty consistent. It sounds like one just forgets the process during a spell of target panic. Maybe it should be called
                      Pre Mature Release Syndome. I was taught as a child never to panic. Bad things happen when people panic.

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                        #12
                        Yes, I would AJ....use a release and or sight pins. I dont have target panic but I have been fooling around with attaching foam to my recurve riser as a backer for sighting pins to focus on dialing in more.

                        Mechanical releases and sight pins are taboo at competitions... but whatever it takes to float a shooters boat to weather the panic tide that ebbs and flows. I get anxious but more on the excited side than nervous. When the anxiousness swells I let down to physically remove myself from the tension of the draw to mentally remove myself from that tension and excited state.

                        I tend to agree with Rabbit a bit. I think a person nervous with target panic will be nervous regardless the gear or tools.

                        DRT...sing with me...."Whiskey river take my mind. Dont let that target torture me".

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                          #13
                          I would not try it . I think going to a release would cause someone to loose the feel of a finger release when going back to it. I have never experienced extreme target panic but I have read that a clicker works and you can still shoot instinct or gap, while it's cured. I think maybe going back to basics like shooting up close then slowly over time weeks months slowly move back until panic clears up, confidence of closer shots became comfortable.

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                            #14
                            I don't think I would....if I was gonna use pins and a release at all I'd just shoot a compound. That's just me though.

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                              #15
                              What some folks don't realize is - It takes very good form to use a sight to it's potential. You're just not going to stick one on willy nilly, and be good with it right off the bat. It's going to take some work, but that work pays off.

                              Using a sight as a training tool forces you to hone your form at the same time it trains your eye to your sight picture, and those benefits will stick with you after you take the sight off.

                              Rick

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