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    I lived there as a young man from 8 to 16 yrs of age., I am 37 now. I loved it and things were not like they are now back then. It was only as of recent I learned that in the UK and Europe they have special police forces and courts that deal with anti muslim rhetoric. and you can be fined and imprisoned for it. It didn't hit me until yesterday when I saw that KT Hopkins a UK journalist was put under investigation by the police for a tweet that dared to call out Islamic terrorism for being Islamic that I may have created a cultural **** storm yesterday. Below the KT tweet is an email exchange with a former co worker in the UK, she is no longer responding to me, I hope I didn't get her into any trouble. It is beyond the pale that in the UK, home of the Magna Carta that free speech is dead.
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    #2
    Canada just did it, too! No rules/regulations saying you can't shame Christians, though. Just sickening. If we don't, as Americans, stand up against this mindset then we'll soon sure follow down the drain along with them.

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      #3
      Yup. It's sickening.

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        #4
        Originally posted by LFD2037 View Post
        Canada just did it, too! No rules/regulations saying you can't shame Christians, though. Just sickening. If we don't, as Americans, stand up against this mindset then we'll soon sure follow down the drain along with them.
        It's already happening in America. It isn't written into law, obviously, but people with positions of power are suppressing opposing views. I just watched a video where a college professor was very aggressively and condescendingly scolding a student for expressing her opinion in a "non-free-speech-zone".

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          #5
          Originally posted by Clay C View Post
          It's already happening in America. It isn't written into law, obviously, but people with positions of power are suppressing opposing views. I just watched a video where a college professor was very aggressively and condescendingly scolding a student for expressing her opinion in a "non-free-speech-zone".


          I hope she thrashed him. I've told my daughter not to take none of that crap if it pops up on her college campus.

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            #6
            Yep, this is bad. Freedom has it's ugly parts, but this authoritarianism crackdown on speech and these "non-free-speech-zones" is downright disgusting. The ugly side of freedom is that people are going to get offended and get their feelings hurt. Those who can't take it, don't deserve the liberty that goes along with it.

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              #7
              Thank God we live in America

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                #8
                Not questioning JSweet, but do we even know for sure that this resulted in disciplinary action, or even an investigation? That is an auto response from Metro police. For all we know metro police had a chuckle and tossed in in the trash with their crumpet crumbs (I assume that is what Bobbies eat instead of donuts).

                I get that the mentality, but that is one individual. Snot nosed whiners have existed in every part of the wood for the entirety of its history, in grade school we called them tattle-tales. Some grow out of it, others become the adult version and run to the po-po instead of the teacher
                Last edited by Playa; 05-24-2017, 11:41 AM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Playa View Post
                  Not questioning JSweet, but do we even know for sure that this resulted in disciplinary action, or even an investigation? That is an auto response from Metro police. For all we know metro police had a chuckle and tossed in in the trash with their crumpet crumbs (I assume that is what Bobbies eat instead of donuts).

                  I get that the mentality, but that is one individual. Snot nosed whiners have existed in every part of the wood for the entirety of its history, in grade school we called them tattle-tales. Some grow out of it, others become the adult version and run to the po-po instead of the teacher
                  To answer your question, I don't know how to see if their police have an investigation ongoing or not, but I did jump on Twitter to see if I could find the thread that JSweet shows a picture of. The conversation happened, the response from Met Contact Center happened. That is real. Twitter doesn't have auto responses. If they did, this does not appear to be an automatic type of reply. It confirms that they have assigned a complaint against this person to be investigated by specialist officers. There doesn't appear to be any kind of resolution to it yet.

                  The fact that a complaint was even taken for this type of "offense" is, in and of itself, disturbing. I would hope if this happened here in the US the officer taking the complaint would reply, "So what do you want us to do about it? We can't do anything to someone for what they said."
                  Last edited by BigWes; 05-24-2017, 12:08 PM. Reason: typo

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                    #10
                    this is why we beat em. too proper

                    hahahaha. cracked myself up

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Playa View Post
                      Not questioning JSweet, but do we even know for sure that this resulted in disciplinary action, or even an investigation? That is an auto response from Metro police. For all we know metro police had a chuckle and tossed in in the trash with their crumpet crumbs (I assume that is what Bobbies eat instead of donuts).

                      I get that the mentality, but that is one individual. Snot nosed whiners have existed in every part of the wood for the entirety of its history, in grade school we called them tattle-tales. Some grow out of it, others become the adult version and run to the po-po instead of the teacher
                      No it is a real law passed by their parliament. People have been arrested for speaking against muslims on FB and Twitter.

                      Benjamin Flatters, from Lincoln, was arrested last night after complaints were made to Lincolnshire Police about comments made on Facebook, which were allegedly of a racist or anti-religious nature.


                      The bill contains wording to amend the Public Order Act 1986:
                      Section 29A Meaning of "religious hatred" In this Part "religious hatred" means hatred against a group of persons defined by reference to religious belief or lack of religious belief.


                      Section 29B: (1) A person who uses threatening words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, is guilty of an offence if he intends thereby to stir up religious hatred.








                      Last edited by Ætheling; 05-24-2017, 12:19 PM.

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                        #12
                        The journalist that tweeted that was on Tucker last night, he has her on a few times a month, and they discussed the tweet on the show.

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                        7 min mark is where she comes on.
                        Last edited by Ætheling; 05-24-2017, 12:38 PM.

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                          Last edited by Ætheling; 05-24-2017, 12:31 PM.

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                            #14
                            Religious hatred? I would say muslims blowing up christians is religious hatred.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hank Hill View Post
                              Thank God we live in America
                              That might be considered hate speech......cant mention God with out offending someone and if a muslim reads this you might be in trouble

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