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Old 06-20-2009, 02:16 PM   #1
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What does a dry bite from a snake look like?

While working the brush, our supervisor felt something hit him pretty hard above his ankle. A couple hours later when we got back to our vehicles he showed us and there was a small bruise. The next day the bruise was gone and the only thing visible were 2 very very small red dots. There are lots of snakes where we work and don't always have the chance to put on snake chaps.

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Old 06-20-2009, 02:26 PM   #2
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Very well could be a dry bite. We were walking up to a tank on a place outside Cross Plains one time when the guy in front of me jumped about 10' straight up in the air and started whoopin' and hollering like a crazy man. A small (18") rattler had popped him right on his shin bone. He pulled up his jeans and sure enough there were two small red punture wounds. It was 45 minutes or more before we got him to an emergency room and he wasn't having any swelling or other symptoms so the doctor surmised it was a dry bite. They made him hang around for a few hours to make sure but when no symptoms appeared they sent us home.
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Old 06-20-2009, 02:54 PM   #3
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I got a dry bite years ago, looked like puncture wounds.....never had any swelling. At the ER they took a couple of blood samples in about 4 hour time...gave me a tetnaus shoot and let me go....
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Old 06-20-2009, 02:57 PM   #4
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My Aunt lives in San Saba and she got hit by a three foot rattle bug in the forearm when she was picking her garden. Sure enough it was a dry bite only two little fang marks. VERY LUCKY PEOPLE!!!
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Old 06-20-2009, 03:20 PM   #5
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He never saw what it was that hit him, it was about 3:00 a.m. and thick low brush. He said he never heard a rattle.
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Old 06-20-2009, 04:17 PM   #6
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He never saw what it was that hit him, it was about 3:00 a.m. and thick low brush. He said he never heard a rattle.
If he stepped on one it wouldn't rattle and could give a dry "get off of me!" hit..... When I was about 10 or 12, I stepped on a copperhead, he never struck at me, but flailed me soundly with his tail.... I missed the tree limb on the way up, but caught it on the way down. and had to change my drawzzzzz
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Old 06-20-2009, 06:39 PM   #7
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I would get it checked out could of been a coral snake.
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Old 06-21-2009, 03:14 PM   #8
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If he stepped on one it wouldn't rattle and could give a dry "get off of me!" hit..... and had to change my drawzzzzz
That's what we were thinking. I guess it was a good thing that he didn't see it.

As far as it being a coral snake, the pin marks were wider than a coral snakes head. (We have a lot of those too).

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Old 06-21-2009, 04:44 PM   #9
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Well I can show you exactly what a dry bite from a CopperHead looks like. My mom was bit last year and the doc's declared it a dry bit. Here's a pic...

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Old 06-22-2009, 11:36 AM   #10
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Thanks Cousinz8. How long after the bite was that picture taken? Was she walking around in sandals, barefoot or did it bite thru a shoe?
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:02 PM   #11
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I would get it checked out could of been a coral snake.
A coral snake can't bite you on the ankle. They need a thinner target like the web between your thumb and index finger...
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:26 PM   #12
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I didn't think a snake could control the venom in it's glands...but I learn things every day. As far as a dry bite...it is when a snake (for whatever reason) fails to inject it's target with venom. It shows up as 'two red dots' from the fangs. It doesn't burn like it normally does but hurts from where you were stuck from the fangs, like any needle injection.

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Old 06-22-2009, 08:52 PM   #13
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my buddy got dry bit a couple of weeks ago in new braunfels by a copperhead while feeding his horses it was in a feed sack and when he put his hand in there whack needless to say he flipped out.
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:08 PM   #14
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Alot of suprise bites are defensive non envenomation bites. The ones to really watch out for are idiots like me that play with them and keep them at my house. Seriously, if you get bit and you know it was a copperhead or rattlesnake, if there is not immediate pain or nearly immediate pain, chances are good that it was a dry bite. The hemotoxic part of the venom attacks the blood cells and the enzymes and peptides attack the tissue, which is where you get the swelling and pain. Coral snake bites, are a whole different story since it is neurotoxic.
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:14 PM   #15
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What does a dry bite from a snake look like?

While working the brush, our supervisor felt something hit him pretty hard above his ankle. A couple hours later when we got back to our vehicles he showed us and there was a small bruise. The next day the bruise was gone and the only thing visible were 2 very very small red dots. There are lots of snakes where we work and don't always have the chance to put on snake chaps.

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There is always time to put on snake chaps.......an extra two minutes is well worth not being out of work for 2-4 months........glad it was a dry bite.....
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:59 PM   #16
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Thanks Cousinz8. How long after the bite was that picture taken? Was she walking around in sandals, barefoot or did it bite thru a shoe?
This pic is about 2-3 hours after the bite. She was walking around the house cleaning the outside of the windows in flip flops. She has always been very careful about looking out for snakes, she was the last one in my family that Idda thought would have got bit by a snake, and she even remembers looking down in the flower bed just before she was bit and not seeing anything. It was only about a 8 inch copperhead and as you probably know they blend in very well with dead leaves at any size...
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:07 PM   #17
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There is always time to put on snake chaps.......an extra two minutes is well worth not being out of work for 2-4 months........glad it was a dry bite.....
Yea, you are right, but when your chasing bad guys (drug mules) thru the brush trying to get them before they get back to the river, we sometimes forget. We got 6 out of the 9.

Cousinz8 thanks again, now with all these pictures we are pretty certain that it was a dry bite. He did say that he felt that something hit him pretty hard.
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Old 06-25-2009, 11:13 PM   #18
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man that is crazy i dont want any kind of bite dry or wet
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