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Old 06-18-2009, 08:55 PM   #1
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I have been bitten by the fishing bug but more particular the striper bug and looking at getting a good all-round fishing boat. I have been looking at a bunch on line and this seems to be the best. I could even fish for largemouths if I wanted. I have always been a bass fisherman but the local lakes aren't that good for LMB fishing but they are dang good for stripers. There is also the Texas Stripers Association that host Tournaments monthly it looks like. I need to find something that keeps me occupied. Given up golf and need a replacement.
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Old 06-18-2009, 08:58 PM   #2
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A buddy of my just bought the same boat. He loves it! Good riding, dry boat. Fit and finish look very good as well.
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:02 PM   #3
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Go with a Skeeter you wont ever regret it
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:53 PM   #4
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What lakes aren't that good for Largemouth
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:05 PM   #5
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Renger is a nice boat but, do yourself a favor first and ride in a Champion 24 Bay Champ. They are similar in price and features/function but, the Champion boats have an unbelievable ride and are really super dry. The hull for the Bay Champ was actually designed by Wylie Nagler who now owns and builds Yellowfins (best bay boat out there hands down). I would say go Yellowfin but, they will be 80-100K for the same options.

The Ranger is a nice boat and there is nothing wrong but, that Champion is un believable.

Also, I put mine to the real test several times a year when the weather is right......offshore. This pictures were 45 miles offshore, a little past Big Southern.

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Old 06-18-2009, 10:45 PM   #6
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You're going to have a really hard time finding the Ranger!

Skeeter makes an awesome 24' bay boat. Take a look at it online. ZX24Bay. They are a Texas company.

Champion may or may not be in business in a few months. They have gone under once already.
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Old 06-18-2009, 11:09 PM   #7
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You will not be disapointed with the Ranger by any means. I am not a fan of Champion because they simply weigh a ton, but they are both good. I am not sure of your price limit, but you may want to take a look at Shearwater. It is an incredible boat that is just as dry as the above boats, will handle water just as good, but is lighter with a much shallower draft, and will flat leave those other two in the dust when it comes to speed. They are quite pricy though.
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Old 06-18-2009, 11:22 PM   #8
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only two thoughts.... heavy and expensive...

well built boats... I just personally don't see the point of a full linered bay boat.
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Old 06-19-2009, 07:13 AM   #9
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If I were going to get a boat made for "big water" and still be able to run shallow when needed, good speed and an excellent ride I would go with the Haynie HO 24'. These boats are not "cookie cutter" boats and you can get them "custom" made to your liking as far as layout goes. Give Chris' marine in Aransas Pass a ring. You won't be dissappointed. My brother in law had the first "bigfoot" model in Rockport and had it for 10 years before finally selling it simply because he didn't "need" it. He sold it for more than 1/2 of what he paid for it and it was about as "plain" as they come. I see it every once in a while down in the Upper Laguna and I always ask the guys that bought it "how's she doin" and they say that buying it was the best thing they ever did. I always kid them about being "thiefs" because of the deal they got. I always felt it was a little underpowered with a 150 on it but it would still do 43-45mph with a tunnel. Good Luck.

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Old 06-19-2009, 07:23 AM   #10
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Take a look at a Pathfinder also. Very nice and very fast.
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Old 06-19-2009, 07:54 AM   #11
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Champion may or may not be in business in a few months. They have gone under once already.[/quote]

Wow.... I did not know that
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:25 AM   #12
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Ranger is a great boat if you can swing the price.

Just my opinion but bot Sea Pro and Gator Bay are great boats and offer a great ride and a lot of features for the price. Gator bay which also make pro gator bass boats guarantee to have the strongest hull on the maket.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:36 AM   #13
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Brandon, the Ranger is a good boat and will do what you want on the lakes. The only downside is, like Kyle said, they are heavy. This is fine for the lakes, but becomes a problem when trying to get up on plane in some of the waters along the coast.

I have to agree with Aironeout. The Haynie will be my next boat.

What ever you do, I strongly suggest you ride in any boat you are considering under less than ideal water conditions to see how they handle rougher water. Buchanan can get pretty nasty.

Also research the dealership you buy from. Service after the sale is BIG. I like the boat I have now, but would never buy another due to the dealer I'd have to buy from.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:49 AM   #14
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Lots of good info here regarding the topic. The Ranger, Champion, Skeeter and Gator Bay are heavy rigs in this class, most all of them are heavy in the 24' class.

The Pathfinder, Haynie and Shearwater are super but they are not really comparable to the boats listed above. They are lighter and I would class them more into a shallow water type rig because they will go places the others will not. Having said that, these three are not really an "offshore" boat either.

I have buddies with the Pathfinder and Shearwater and they made the purchase to have a boat to fish Rayburn, Toledo, Sabine Lake and the Jetties. They will make a few trips to the short rigs on the perfect days of favorable conditions.

One thing regarding these boats, do you have enough tow vehicle to handle them? Those in the first paragraph will need at least an F250 class rig IMO, they are big and heavy boats.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:54 AM   #15
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I second looking at pathfinders, haynies, or the tran...the 24 foot XLR8 is a great boat. My avatar is the xlr8

all of these are "fishing first".... dual livewells, lots of storage, fuel effecient, and good re sale value.

the XLR8, with a suzuki 250 will do about 55-57 top end depending on load, and is very dry riding... we cross baffin frequently, and very seldom get wet.

the pathfinder is also nice. I have a buddy with one, and they are just a top notch boat....

the 24 foot haynie is also very nice... got a another buddy with one of those, and it's probably the fastest boat out of the three. functionally, it's more similar to the tran than the pathfinder....

Like Mike said, just about any of these high quality 24' bay boats can be ran offshore on smooth days.

I also have it on very good information that majek is coming out with a 25' xtreme in the near future.

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Old 06-19-2009, 09:04 AM   #16
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I've been fishing out of a 25' Marshall belonging to a friend of mine the last couple of years and I have been EXTREMELY impressed...he runs it on a daily basis in Baffin Bay and it's a beast...runs shallow but can handle extremely rough water...no boat in this class is completely dry running into big wind/waves but this one does a good job...you should check them out...

As someone else pointed out, these are big heavy boats so make sure you have the rig to pull one...

http://www.marshall-marine.com/
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:25 AM   #17
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There are some really good CC boats out there. I have a Nautic Bay 2200 that is the driest, smoothest and best fishing boat I've ever owned. I wouldn't trade her for anything. Pathfinders, Rangers and Skeeters are also great boats and you could do alot worse. Good luck on your new ride.


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Old 06-19-2009, 10:38 AM   #18
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Champion may or may not be in business in a few months. They have gone under once already.
Wow.... I did not know that[/quote]


well the company that owns Champ and Ranger as well as several other comps (genmar) is bankrupt. champ never really went under, they sold to genmar around 02 or so so that is not exactly correct
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Old 06-19-2009, 10:52 AM   #19
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:07 PM   #20
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Thanks for all the info guys. I like the video's on the Ranger Website on how the boats are put together. Really impressive. Even more, I sent a message, via their website, to them asking a few questions about the 2410 and within 3 hours a representative from the Ranger plant called my office. The gentlemans name was Kit. I don't know about other boat manufactorers but that was a first with me. He answered all my questions recommended several dealerships and also compared the 2410 with the competion, and not once did he bad mouth any of the others. That one phone call was, which lasted 30 minutes, has me leaning that way.

Me, my dad and brother are considering buying it as partners. As far as the weight goes I drive a 3/4 ton 4wd Dodge with the cummins, my wife drives a 1 ton. dad and brother drive 3/4 Chevy's gas...they may have a problem.

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Old 06-19-2009, 09:52 PM   #21
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Bankruptcy protection does not mean out of business.

It is not a good thing but, typically the dealers and suppliers get the short end of the deal, not the consumer.

Either way, if you buy the right boat you won't need exceptional service.

Lots of great boats listed. I like the Haynies but, it depends on what you are really going to do with it. They are fast, ride well, dry and get skinny. They are also uncomfortable, not good looking and don't have 1/2 the features most other boats listed have.

You really need to figure out what you are looking for and then decide. There are better choices out there depending on application. I simply mentioned Champion compared to the Ranger because they are direct competitors. Shearwater, Yellowfin, Haynie and some other boats mentioned are different kinds of boats.

If you are ever in or around Port A, let me know and I will take you for a ride and show you why I bought a Champ. I have been in or owned most of the listed boats. I can have any boat I want. At the end of the day I want, smooth, dry, comfortable and trouble free. I have that now and its pretty fast considering the T-top and its weight. It is a super heavy boat but, it will get in 12" all day long, takes about 18-20" to really get up good though.

Whatever you do please take this 1 piece of advise before you buy anything.

TAKE TEST RIDES OR SEA TRIALS IN ANY AND ALL BOATS YOU ARE CONSIDERING.

It is a buyers market, used boats are super cheap, new boats have super incentives and you are the boss right now. Ride them all, do it twice if you need to. Boat dealers are finally earning their money.
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:27 PM   #22
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Like the others have stated, they are all good boats.

Once you mentioned the tri partnership, I would go the Ranger route easily.

It is a great way to own more boat than you can afford, PROVIDING the fact you all equally agree on upkeep and how maintenance will be handled. Another issue is the time division factor, these things need to be gone over on an investment of this size.

Go get in one and ride in it, then for a special treat, take a ride to Flippen and look at the factory. That trip alone will sell you on fit and finish in my opinion. I have made several trips there to pick up boats and it is amazing to watch the construction of the boats take place.

I too have been in them all and owned my fair share, I love Rangers but I do not like the price, plain and simple.

I have been in some bad water in my day, really bad back in my tournament fishing days. Those are days that I look back on now at 40 with two boys and think to myself, "What were you thinking???" I was young and bullet proof, plus I knew how to drive a boat really well. I was pretty fearless in my Rangers, I knew they were going to keep me right side up in any event. I got wet sometimes but I was in the weigh-in line. The Skeeter 185c that I ran was like a surfboard, it ran it fine but you could not push it, you had to keep the nose up and it got you where you needed to go with a good feeling. As far as the Champion, those days were just after the mess they went through in the mid-late 90's and all the bay boats they were making had curing issues and the boats were cracking in front of the console. I knew that boat would sink like a rock if it ever filled with water so I did my best to keep the water on the outside, lol. Needless to say, I did not have a great feeling running that boat but I knew it would get me there and back, just not with a cozy feeling.

Ride in them all, see what they will do and one last tidbit,,,,Make sure it has all the powerplant it can handle on the rear. There is a trend nowdays to sell boats at a pricepoint and that is usually with less than max horsepower. Those big rigs are rated at 250-300. I have a 22' with a 225 on the back and it needs it all to perform like it should. I have two buddies with the same boats with a 150 and they can run about 39-41 mph top speed and it is a toad out of the hole. Make sure the motor is maxed out, the big boats need it all, IMO.
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:32 PM   #23
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Hands down the 24' skeeter can do it all,from rough bays,choppy lakes,offshore swells. for ride comfort and fishability skeeter does it all. May cost a bit more than some models but you won't regret the investment.
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:57 PM   #24
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all of the aforementioned companies make great boats , just depends on what YOU want


you're fixing to drop some serious coins on a pleasure craft


just like test driving a " new bow " ..... I highly recommend you get out on the H2O and spend a minimum of 1 hour in each boat you're considering


I would seriously shop the market for a quality "like new, low hours" used boat before spending $55K on a new one (Ranger) ...... JMO

there is nothing wrong with a well kept 2006 or 2007 Ranger 2400 which can be picked up for around $30K


If you got the $$$$$ , buy what you like best

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Old 06-20-2009, 12:06 AM   #25
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I think that the Pathfinder may be the most under-rated boat on the market. Glad to see them mentioned in this thread.

Mike knows his ****, but I have taken a Pathfinder down the mouth of the Mississippi and way too far out in the Gulf on countless trips.

It passed every torture test we could throw at it.

Lightweight and dry, a true performer in skinny water --- I will have another just like her someday.........
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I looked at the new Blackjack and Frontier boats by Bill Kenner last week. The blackjack is a very well built boat. It's 22'4" and rigged out will cost you around 45k. The frontier comes in a 21.5'ter, and it's about alot less money (around 32k or so rigged out depending on your options, but they are both looking rigs. The blackjack is too heavy for the places I fish, but the frontier would probobly work ok for me.
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:47 AM   #27
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Thanks for all the info guys. I like the video's on the Ranger Website on how the boats are put together. Really impressive. Even more, I sent a message, via their website, to them asking a few questions about the 2410 and within 3 hours a representative from the Ranger plant called my office. The gentlemans name was Kit. I don't know about other boat manufactorers but that was a first with me. He answered all my questions recommended several dealerships and also compared the 2410 with the competion, and not once did he bad mouth any of the others. That one phone call was, which lasted 30 minutes, has me leaning that way.

Me, my dad and brother are considering buying it as partners. As far as the weight goes I drive a 3/4 ton 4wd Dodge with the cummins, my wife drives a 1 ton. dad and brother drive 3/4 Chevy's gas...they may have a problem.
Brandon...

as far as the haynie and transport boats... if you tell those guys you're interested in one of them, you don't get a rep... you get teh guy that buiilds it. Same with Majek. You can call their shops and ask for some information, and they will help you out.

Rangers are great boats too though. So are pathfinders....

man... too many choices! I'm not even buying and it's confusing
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If I were going to get a boat made for "big water" and still be able to run shallow when needed, good speed and an excellent ride I would go with the Haynie HO 24'. These boats are not "cookie cutter" boats and you can get them "custom" made to your liking as far as layout goes. Give Chris' marine in Aransas Pass a ring. You won't be dissappointed. My brother in law had the first "bigfoot" model in Rockport and had it for 10 years before finally selling it simply because he didn't "need" it. He sold it for more than 1/2 of what he paid for it and it was about as "plain" as they come. I see it every once in a while down in the Upper Laguna and I always ask the guys that bought it "how's she doin" and they say that buying it was the best thing they ever did. I always kid them about being "thiefs" because of the deal they got. I always felt it was a little underpowered with a 150 on it but it would still do 43-45mph with a tunnel. Good Luck.

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Old 06-20-2009, 10:41 AM   #29
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Take a look at Blazer Bay also another really well designed boat.
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