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Old 01-08-2019, 09:20 PM   #1
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Heard Bay flats lodge owner Chris Martin was arrested for hunting without land owners consent. Anyone anything
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:27 PM   #2
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Hope not - like the guy. I thought he mostly hunted out of the boat blind for divers in the bay but maybe not anymore.
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:32 PM   #3
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:36 PM   #4
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That’s not just a ticket type offense?
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:38 PM   #5
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don't look the same to me or he isn't looking good.
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:42 PM   #6
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I have not seen him in probably 2 years. I don remember curly tpe hair and if it is him he has not missed any meals.
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:52 PM   #7
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Heard he and a few of his guides were hunting the du ponds on falcon point with clients opening weekend and got popped.


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Old 01-08-2019, 10:58 PM   #8
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Yup its him...
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:10 PM   #9
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:31 PM   #10
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Ouchie!
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:02 AM   #11
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Heard he and a few of his guides were hunting the du ponds on falcon point with clients opening weekend and got popped.


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Where is Falcon Point? Somebody has been taking clients out and walking into Matagorda Island WMA ponds on weekdays when the staff is not there running hunts as well, wouldn't be surprised if it's the same crew. Been happening for years.

Few years back there were quite a few complaints on 2cool about their airboat operator(s) running really close to wade fishermen and running right through people's decoy spreads, threads always got whacked quickly because they were a sponsor.

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Old 01-09-2019, 12:07 AM   #12
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Heard he and a few of his guides were hunting the du ponds on falcon point with clients opening weekend and got popped.

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What guides were with him, i know a few of them.

Op post a link please
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:12 AM   #13
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:18 AM   #14
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Thx low, that satisfies my curiosity.

Booking photo says offense date 1/8 so wonder if the Falcon Point thing is just rumors? I guess it could be both, ticket opening day then arrest for 2nd offense?

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Old 01-09-2019, 12:46 AM   #15
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I fished with Chris about 14 years ago with some other OLD TBH'ers, and I will say he kept a gator from gettin me, and we had a great time. It was a memorable trip go a lot of reasons, and we caught fish. Can't speak to his character.


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Old 01-09-2019, 06:32 AM   #16
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I fish the area often (4-5x a month) and I will say, the airboat guys care nothing about or have any respect for other anglers or hunters.


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Old 01-09-2019, 06:58 AM   #17
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don't look the same to me or he isn't looking good.
pls no one from tbh on a jury if i ever need one jeez
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:00 AM   #18
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He probably was mistaken.

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Old 01-09-2019, 07:59 AM   #19
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I fish the area often (4-5x a month) and I will say, the airboat guys care nothing about or have any respect for other anglers or hunters.


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X10 on about 95% of the airboat ops down around POC. Absolute zero regard for other people hunting or fishing. Exact same way on the Brazos below Whitney
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Old 01-09-2019, 08:24 AM   #20
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Cant wait for the back story.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:08 AM   #21
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I’ve spent the night in that jail!

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Old 01-09-2019, 09:20 AM   #22
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There are a ton of weird areas between there and POC. Hell, even the GW’s don’t know what is legal or not legal to hunt for the most part. I have called and talked to several, always different answers. So we end up sticking to the bay to be safe.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:25 AM   #23
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There are a ton of weird areas between there and POC. Hell, even the GWís donít know what is legal or not legal to hunt for the most part. I have called and talked to several, always different answers. So we end up sticking to the bay to be safe.
Yes, the game warden will arrest you in certain areas of Haynes bay.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:28 AM   #24
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Thatís not just a ticket type offense?
No, class A misdemeanor. Up to 180 days in jail and $5k fine once convicted.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:28 AM   #25
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Photo just caught me off guard. I have not seen him in a couple years. He obviously has not been pushing away from the table and goes to a salon now. His hair was straight and not jet black a few years ago. He has had some guys working for him I didn’t care for but he was always respectful and nice to the boys and I
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:30 AM   #26
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Been to BFL several times and always had a great time. Fished with Chris a couple times, and he runs a great place. Interested to see what this is about.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:31 AM   #27
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Boy isn't that the truth.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:06 AM   #28
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We hunt on a family place down there and we have had to call the GW on trespassers a few times. Talked to a guy in an airboat a few weeks ago, it was surprised that the place was private, I guess the fence and the road were not a red flag for him. After over 20 years down there, Chris knows where he can and can not hunt.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:15 AM   #29
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We all make mistakes and most of them are not intentional. I'm sure it was a miscommunication between land owner and hunter.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:27 AM   #30
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X10 on about 95% of the airboat ops down around POC. Absolute zero regard for other people hunting or fishing. Exact same way on the Brazos below Whitney
Yeah, they are really bad on that stretch of the river. And it always seems like they stop hunting around 8:15am to go blast through everyones decoys.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:27 AM   #31
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We all make mistakes and most of them are not intentional. I'm sure it was a miscommunication between land owner and hunter.
Lol you're joking right?

You must not know duck hunters (I can say that because I am one) they are the worst of all hunting breeds when it comes to cheating and stretching the rules and general bafoonery. Guides know exactly what and where they can go, if this is in fact a trespassing situation he 100% knew it. It's a tough year for ducks, there's darn near no birds still in POC so all the guides are are scrambling to keep clients happy and we start seeing more of this type of thing, more shooting after sunset (by far) and more location arguments.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:29 AM   #32
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Yeah, they are really bad on that stretch of the river. And it always seems like they stop hunting around 8:15am to go blast through everyones decoys.
Rallying birds, run the boats back and forth to kick them up for the clients. Commonplace practice in POC and also illegal but hard to prove. We sit on the ponds and listen to them go back and forth in the bay and back lakes all morning long.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:37 AM   #33
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[QUOTE=justletmein;13913777]Rallying birds, run the boats back and forth to kick them up for the clients. Commonplace practice in POC and also illegal but hard to prove. We sit on the ponds and listen to them go back and forth in the bay and back lakes all morning long.[/QUOTE

That makes sense. I actually had not thought about that being what they are doing. I haven't been hunting the river for long.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:39 AM   #34
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I have been there a few times as well, enjoyed every minute of it. That being said, it is the guides responsibilty to know regulations and legal areas to hunt. Chris has been down there a long time, no way he doesn't know the boundries.
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:10 AM   #35
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pls no one from tbh on a jury if i ever need one jeez


Only thing I know of that you could be popped for is food theft.


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Old 01-09-2019, 11:17 AM   #36
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Iíve spent the night in that jail!
And I bailed you out. You ready to go back to POC with me yet?
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:23 AM   #37
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Yeah, they are really bad on that stretch of the river. And it always seems like they stop hunting around 8:15am to go blast through everyones decoys.


It ticks me off because I fish the back lakes often. I canít tell you how many times they blow in and do everything but donuts around me until I pull up lines and leave. Some of this I have video of because I started filming for YouTube videos. It gets crazy quickly at times


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Old 01-09-2019, 11:28 AM   #38
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It ticks me off because I fish the back lakes often. I canít tell you how many times they blow in and do everything but donuts around me until I pull up lines and leave. Some of this I have video of because I started filming for YouTube videos. It gets crazy quickly at times


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Don't you know that's their property? You must be late on your rent payment.

You're not by chance the Michael with the aluminum boat worked on by Glenn are ya?
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:33 AM   #39
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well that case would benefit me, no dont look like bruiser to me!
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:43 AM   #40
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Don't you know that's their property? You must be late on your rent payment.



You're not by chance the Michael with the aluminum boat worked on by Glenn are ya?


No sir Iím not, I have a Majek. The areas I fish are public waters but, I hear what you are saying. They do act as if they own any and every location they are!


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Old 01-09-2019, 11:58 AM   #41
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Never could stand the guy and yes that's him and he finally got caught. Don't think for a moment that he didn't know where he was.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:01 PM   #42
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No sir Iím not, I have a Majek. The areas I fish are public waters but, I hear what you are saying. They do act as if they own any and every location they are!


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Ah ok thought I'd take a shot. Used to talk to that guy all the time on the island and he fished the back lakes a lot. Lost touch with him a few years ago and haven't seen him out there.

Yeah that's been my impression of them as well, if you're in "their spot" all hell breaks loose.
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It ticks me off because I fish the back lakes often. I canít tell you how many times they blow in and do everything but donuts around me until I pull up lines and leave. Some of this I have video of because I started filming for YouTube videos. It gets crazy quickly at times


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Yup. Poling a back lake, here comes airboat guy from big name outfit about 30 feet away. Stops in a small gut, has clients throw cut bait in for about a minute then get up and move to the next one blowing right by again.


Best is the guy who said "Don't worry, these things don't bother fish".

Only thing worse is the people who anchor in entry cuts then get mad when you have to come buy.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:29 PM   #44
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Yep. Ive almost been run over twice in POC wading. I dont know if all airboat operators are a holes but they are in POC.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:30 PM   #45
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Yup. Poling a back lake, here comes airboat guy from big name outfit about 30 feet away. Stops in a small gut, has clients throw cut bait in for about a minute then get up and move to the next one blowing right by again.





Best is the guy who said "Don't worry, these things don't bother fish".



Only thing worse is the people who anchor in entry cuts then get mad when you have to come buy.


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Old 01-09-2019, 12:34 PM   #46
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In my experience, owning an air boat immediately knocks off 60 IQ points.


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Old 01-09-2019, 12:38 PM   #47
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That drives me effing crazy.

And, that is definitely Chris Martin in the pic above. Everybody looks worse in jailhouse stripes.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:54 PM   #48
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I have fished down there and was always treated well. Talked to Chris a couple of times and seemed like a nice guy.

I have a hard time believing that they throw you in the slammer for a first time offender but I will wait for the facts to come out.
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:05 PM   #49
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I might need to stick to Baffin! They donít have any cops.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:19 PM   #50
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Never could stand the guy and yes that's him and he finally got caught. Don't think for a moment that he didn't know where he was.
Im with this guy.

I first met Chris in the early 90s when he lived on Ave D in Katy. Way before bay flats. His character? Well hes a snake and I hope he looses his hunting license for a few years over it. As mentioned hes been down there long enough to know where he cant be.
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