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Old 07-04-2018, 05:46 PM   #1
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Default Senate panel finds that Russia backed Trump

Yesterday the Senate Intelligence Committee released a statement which upheld the 2017 conclusion of the broader US intelligence community that Russia aggressively interfered in the 2016 election in an effort to undermine faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Clinton, and bolster Trump.

Republicans on the committee include:

Senator Richard Burr, North Carolina (Chairman)
Senator John Cornyn, Texas
Senator Tom Cotton, Arkansas
Senator James Lankford, Oklahoma
Senator Roy Blunt, Missouri
Senator Susan Collins, Maine
Senator Marco Rubio, Florida
Senator James Risch, Idaho

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...ssian-election

Official statement with the committee's findings is here:

https://www.burr.senate.gov/imo/medi...FINALJULY3.pdf
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Old 07-04-2018, 06:00 PM   #2
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I don’t think anything Russia did helped shape my opinion on Hillary. Maybe Mexico can interfere and help change some Conservative minds in 2020 and give Biden a shot at winning.


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It doesn’t prove collusion and collusion isn’t a crime so it’s all a sham anyway


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Okay. Yea, I was gonna vote for Hillary. The Russians changed my mind. LMFAO!
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I read the links and found nothing new. It's no surprise that Russia has tried to interfere in our elections, just as the U.S. has interfered in elections in other countries. It happens around the world between many governments and has been going on for many, many years.

There was no conclusion of the Trump campaign colluding with Russia.

Apparently they didn't want corrupt Hillary as President any more than most U.S. citizens did.
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I can't see his links but I'm going to assume the Russians placed hundreds of ads on social media.
I'm also going to assume the Russians wanted Hillary more than trump making because they ABSOLUTELY have what they need to black male her on anything. So vermin, give it up man.
No, Trump did not work with the commies to win the election
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I can attest that I didn't need any Russians to steer me away from Crooked Hillary. I still think that this election should have been an easy victory for the Democratic party but the best they could come up with to represent them was Hillary.
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Okay. Yea, I was gonna vote for Hillary. The Russians changed my mind. LMFAO!
Yup,no.
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Hillary is the only one that we know for a fact had collusion with Russia.
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Lol. OH NOOOOZZZZ a foreign power had interest in another foreign powers elections!


Anything new here that hasn't been going on since, well, forever?
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Yesterday the Senate Intelligence Committee released a statement which upheld the 2017 conclusion of the broader US intelligence community that Russia aggressively interfered in the 2016 election in an effort to undermine faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Clinton, and bolster Trump.

Republicans on the committee include:

Senator Richard Burr, North Carolina (Chairman)
Senator John Cornyn, Texas
Senator Tom Cotton, Arkansas
Senator James Lankford, Oklahoma
Senator Roy Blunt, Missouri
Senator Susan Collins, Maine
Senator Marco Rubio, Florida
Senator James Risch, Idaho

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...ssian-election

Official statement with the committee's findings is here:

https://www.burr.senate.gov/imo/medi...FINALJULY3.pdf
You know we don’t want to hear of these this type of news.
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You lost all credibility right about "John Cornyn". Who gives a ****
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Old 07-05-2018, 09:27 AM   #13
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Yesterday the Senate Intelligence Committee released a statement which upheld the 2017 conclusion of the broader US intelligence community that Russia aggressively interfered in the 2016 election in an effort to undermine faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Clinton, and bolster Trump.
You know what. This information and a dollar will get you a coca cola .
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So Russia supported Trump. Who gives two rats ***. Obama sent a team to interfere with the elections in Israel but that was for the good. That German Merkel loon supported Hillary and wanted her to Win. Liberals are such dumbasses.
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Even the Russians hated Hillary.... No surprise to me
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Poor Ole Bernie would have loved to have had the chance to get skrewed over by Trump and Russia but Hillary fixed all of that from the gitgo now didn't she..... LMAO.... And Bernie was y'alls only real chance.. "Knee slapper" LMAO!!!
If she wouldn't have rigged the democratic election she would have been sitting the bench during all of this "fake news"...

You liberals need to clean your own house before worrying about cleaning ANYTHING else... Y'all have quite the mess...
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You lost all credibility right about "John Cornyn". Who gives a ****
Ain't that the dam truth!!!!
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Okay. Yea, I was gonna vote for Hillary. The Russians changed my mind. LMFAO!
Exactly...
Does anyone really think that Russia swayed ANYONE on how to vote when the candidates were so polar opposite in every category possible????? Surely no one is stupid enough to believe that..

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It does make you wonder what Russia's motives were. Why would Russia spend a lot of money trying to keep Hillary from being president? Did they think she would be tougher on Russia?
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Okay. Yea, I was gonna vote for Hillary. The Russians changed my mind. LMFAO!
Who gives a rat's butt whether you were going to vote for Hilary or not.

The fact that a foreign power interfered with our election should bother you, I don't care if you root for the Left or the Right.
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Exactly...
Does anyone really think that Russia swayed ANYONE on how to vote when the candidates were so polar opposite in every category possible????? Surely no one is stupid enough to believe that..
Thats not the point, "that they swayed someone", the point is they interfered, you're sitting there with a grin on your face because your guy won, that you were voting for anyway and in the meantime, the enemy is in our backyard.

Its called subversion people, look it up.
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Thats not the point, "that they swayed someone", the point is they interfered, you're sitting there with a grin on your face because your guy won, that you were voting for anyway and in the meantime, the enemy is in our backyard.

Its called subversion people, look it up.

Foreign countries have tried to influence every **** election since 1776. We do they same thing. And our biggest enemy is in Washington DC.
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Ever wonder if the US has meddled in an election or two????
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Ever wonder if the US has meddled in an election or two????
Yeah sure tons, doesn't mean I have to like it at my house
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Thats not the point, "that they swayed someone", the point is they interfered, you're sitting there with a grin on your face because your guy won, that you were voting for anyway and in the meantime, the enemy is in our backyard.

Its called subversion people, look it up.
Doesn't this subversion happen in every election? Yes..

My point is that the Dems would be silent on this topic if Hitlary would have won and you know it.. Yes I am grinning..
Nothing your or I can do to stop subversion... We didn't invent the WWW but I can promise you that Russia didn't sway me or anyone I know for that matter..
This whole dog and piney show is just an attempt to de-legitimize the Trump
Presidency..
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Trump is the duly elected President of the USA, get over it!
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My point is that the Dems would be silent on this topic if Hitlary would have won and you know it.. Yes I am grinning..
You and me both TT.

But they weren't silent. In fact they were rather obtuse about it. From Barry right on down to Poci.
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It would be easier to listen to the thought process of the people concerned about a foreign power taking interest in another foreign power's election if:

Those same people weren't completely silent about the DNC literally and admittedly rigging the election.

Those same people weren't advocating that we allow millions of citizens from another country who have that countries interest at heart participate in our elections.

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It does make you wonder what Russia's motives were. Why would Russia spend a lot of money trying to keep Hillary from being president? Did they think she would be tougher on Russia?
Maybe they knew Trump would improve the U.S. economy somehow hoping that some would trickle over their way? Maybe they knew Trump would seek to denuclearize NK therefore attempting to bring peace to that region? Maybe they knew Trump would bring black unemployment down to the lowest levels since they started recording them in 1972.


But it does make you wonder what Obama's motives were interfering in the Israeli elections?
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But it does make you wonder what Obama's motives were interfering in the Israeli elections?
And that should have been a crime and much more so than anything Trump has ever done.
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It does make you wonder what Russia's motives were. Why would Russia spend a lot of money trying to keep Hillary from being president? Did they think she would be tougher on Russia?
This is what I've been wondering for some time. Why would Russia prefer Trump over Hillary? I don't know President Trump personally or have a clue about any of his private business affairs or finances other than what has been reported. But why would Russia be so against Hillary winning? Were they afraid she was going to bring them another big red reset button? Sell them more Uranium? Bill wouldn't come over and give any more six figure speeches? Put ALL of Americas private affairs on a private server for the world to hack into? What strength has she ever shown to make Russia believe that Hillary winning would be devastating for them? To me it makes absolutely 0 sense for Russia to not have wanted Hillary as our President. She would have weakened our military, economics and world status even further than the last President. What am I missing? How is Trump better for Russia?

And as for the Senators on the list, I do not know them all, but the ones I have followed you can keep. I wish Cornyn could face just one qualified candidate in the primaries instead of splitting the vote up amongst 10 candidates. None of them have done what they promised when up for re-election, they are just part of the get along gang.
A business man/reality star won the election by running a campaign that expressed what the silent majority wants, instead of falling in line and following his lead his own party fights him at every turn. It is absolutely one of the most disgusting things I have ever witnessed.
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Appears to me that Russia's intent was to cause divisiveness between both parties and to create disruption and hate within our society.

Looks like they are accomplishing their goal.
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Appears to me that Russia's intent was to cause divisiveness between both parties and to create disruption and hate within our society.

Looks like they are accomplishing their goal.
Thats been going on for decades! Russia is late to the party.
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Thats been going on for decades! Russia is late to the party.
Agreed. Just seems like there is more hate lately. I read this morning about a teenager in San Antonio that was assaulted because he had a MAGA ball cap on. What has happened to civil discourse?
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Agreed. Just seems like there is more hate lately. I read this morning about a teenager in San Antonio that was assaulted because he had a MAGA ball cap on. What has happened to civil discourse?
That coward took advantage of some young toothpick looking teenagers...something tells me he ain't much of a big man and probably wouldn't have done that if it would have been anyone else wearing that hat.

Good thing is he was already ID'd and has been fired from his job.
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Thats not the point, "that they swayed someone", the point is they interfered, you're sitting there with a grin on your face because your guy won, that you were voting for anyway and in the meantime, the enemy is in our backyard.

Its called subversion people, look it up.
Were you this concerned about the foreign contributions to the Clinton Global Initiative while Hillary was Sec of State?
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Knowing what we know now there is absolutely no way the Ruskies wanted Trump over the Hildabeast. She would have given them everything. Trump gives them nothing but more sanctions. I don't believe a word of these establishment Rinos or any of the other establishment politicians. They are all crooks no matter what color of shirt they wear. The biggest conspirators in the whole election was the DNC and that has been proven over and over.
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Thats been going on for decades! Russia is late to the party.


No they’ve been leading the party for decades and it’s been known. It’s only being brought to the spotlight as a distraction because the swamp doesn’t like the elected President.


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“Every time he (Putin) sees me, he says, ‘I didn’t do that,’ and I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it.”
- Trump in Nov 2017 answering questions about Russia interfering in the 2016 election


Key US intelligence agency and Senate Intelligence Committee findings for Team Trump/Putin to shrug off...

US Intelligence Community Assessment: Russian efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the U.S.-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.

• The Committee found that this judgment was supported by the evidence presented in the ICA. Since its publication, further details have come to light that bolster the assessment.
• The ICA pointed to initial evidence of Russian activities against multiple U.S. state or local electoral boards. Since the ICA was published, the Committee has learned more about Russian attempts to infiltrate state election infrastructure, as outlined in the findings and recommendations the Committee issued in March 2018.
• While the ICA briefly discussed the activities of the Internet Research Agency, the Committee's investigation has exposed a far more extensive Russian effort to manipulate social media outlets to sow discord and to interfere in the 2016 election and American society.

US Intelligence Community Assessment: We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election. Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.

• The Committee found that the ICA provided a range of all-source reporting to support these assessments.
• The Committee concurs with intelligence and open-source assessments that this influence campaign was approved by President Putin.
• Further, a body of reporting, to include different intelligence disciplines, open source reporting on Russian leadership policy preferences, and Russian media content, showed that Moscow sought to denigrate Secretary Clinton.
• The ICA relies on public Russian leadership commentary, Russian state media reports, public examples of where Russian interests would have aligned with candidates' policy statements, and a body of intelligence reporting to support the assessment that Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for Trump.

US Intelligence Community Assessment: We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump's election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him.

• The Committee found that the ICA provided intelligence and open source reporting to support this assessment, and information obtained subsequent to publication of the ICA provides further support.
• This isthe only assessment in the ICA that had different confidence levels between the participating agencies -the CIA and FBI assessed with "high confidence"and the NSA assessed with "moderate confidence"-so the Committee gave thissection additional attention.

US Intelligence Community Assessment: Russia’s intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 U.S. presidential election, including targets associated with both major U.S. political parties. We assess Russian intelligence services collected against the U.S . primary campaigns, think tanks, and lobbying groups they viewed as likely to shape future U.S. policies. In July 2015, Russian intelligence gained access to Democratic National Committee (DNC) networks and maintained that access until at least June 2016.

• The Committee found this judgment supported by intelligence and further supported by our own investigation. Separate from the ICA, the Committee has conducted interviews of key individuals who have provided additional insights into these incidents.

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Hmmmm...a 2015 TBH join date...right about when Trump jumped in the Presidential race. Very coincidental....

Possible pro-Trump Russian troll?
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Hmmmm...a 2015 TBH join date...right about when Trump jumped in the Presidential race. Very coincidental....

Possible pro-Trump Russian troll?
Lol. Go back to the primaries on here and see me bash Trump.

Those Senators are just never trumpers Never Trumping. Call a spade a spade.
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"Senate panel finds that Russia backed Trump"

What else would you expect? obama(democrats) messed with Russian elections trying to help defeat Putin. How is obama going to stop Russian interference in our elections when he did the same to Putin? SMH
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And that should have been a crime and much more so than anything Trump has ever done.
The intelligence community said they did, and you think think us influencing Israel is worse?

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Knowing what we know now there is absolutely no way the Ruskies wanted Trump over the Hildabeast. She would have given them everything. Trump gives them nothing but more sanctions. I don't believe a word of these establishment Rinos or any of the other establishment politicians. They are all crooks no matter what color of shirt they wear. The biggest conspirators in the whole election was the DNC and that has been proven over and over.
What sanctions did he give them? Who's side are you on?
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All that and still absolutely no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

I still don't get the point of this thread.
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Old 07-05-2018, 10:45 PM   #47
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I’m with all those that wish Cornyn loses in a primary!
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All that and still absolutely no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

I still don't get the point of this thread.
3 points:

1. Trump is a serial BS'er.

“Every time he (Putin) sees me, he says, ‘I didn’t do that,’ and I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it.”
- Trump in Nov 2017 answering questions about Russia interfering in the 2016 election

"Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election!" - Trump a week ago

2. There is a very good reason why Congress has, generally speaking, supported the Special Counsel Investigation into Russia's meddling and has repeatedly warned Trump not to fire Mueller, and that's because Congress knows there were significant Russian shenanigans going on to support Trump and damage Clinton.

3. The Russians think a significant number of Americans are easy to manipulate.

This obviously does not prove the Trump campaign was complicit with the Russians, but it does explain why there's an investigation.
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I can't believe I let myself get dupped into voting for the wrong person. Everyone know that grown adults are incapable of thinking for themselves.

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Thats not the point, "that they swayed someone", the point is they interfered, you're sitting there with a grin on your face because your guy won, that you were voting for anyway and in the meantime, the enemy is in our backyard.

Its called subversion people, look it up.
And this is what we want to lower the bar too. Interfered?

Isnt that what every campaign does, every PAC, every lobbyist, every politician, every local news channel, CNN, MSNBC, FOX? What about politicians, the Lynch tarmac meeting, BHO saying that our elections cant be interfered with, Comey, Pocahontas, Debbie Wassermann Shultz, Brazile leaking question to Hillary? Bernie? The Black Panthers in Philly? Clinton's black guy with the syringe? How about the Clinton foundation, do you think it ever influenced an election? Soros? Hollywood?

The enemy is in our backyard. Ha, who Putin?

“The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

I truly dont think some of yall realize just how asinine all of this looks to the folks not drinking the Koolaide. But man, it sure is entertaining.
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