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Old 09-21-2008, 06:45 AM   #1
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Question Question on "trailer Inspection" and Farm Tags

I was stopped by a sheriff who was a License & Weight officer coming back from my deer lease having just finished planting our fall food plots because I had a tail light out on the trailer. Ok, I get the tail light thing. Then he issued me two citations for misuse of Farm Tags on trailer and "No inspection sticker on trailer" ? Huh?

I have never heard of an inspection sticker needed for a 14 foot plain ole trailer. He said you have to have one over 4500 lb trailer. The one I used is a two axel 7000 lb trailer. I borrowed the trailer from a friend of mine who has a farm so I could hall my planting supplies. I have pictures of the food plots, planting seeds, protein, and all the supplies I used.

We are an MLD property and the landowner has a wildlife exemption so we have to do wildlife projects for her to keep that. I plan to fight these citations.

Anyone know about this inspection sticker? And about Farm tags. All I could find was this link. If it has farm tags it is exempt from inspection according to this link at TXDPS. This is a small 14 ft trailer like all of us use.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/lw/cmvl...ation/Farm.asp

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Old 09-21-2008, 07:01 AM   #2
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over 4500#..yep, you can get it inspected at one of the big trailer places.
The farm tag will be issued in X county, you had it for other reasons, so he is right....he most have had a bad day....
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Old 09-21-2008, 07:33 AM   #3
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The way I read it, it sounds like the trailer should probably stay within the county it is registered to not be suspect. Take your pictures and any other documents to the JP or what ever court has jurisdiction and see what they might do for you? The worst that can happen is yo still have to pay the same amount as if you just sent it in. You might get lucky and get a break if you show up and plead your case.
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:36 AM   #4
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The way I read it, it sounds like the trailer should probably stay within the county it is registered to not be suspect. Take your pictures and any other documents to the JP or what ever court has jurisdiction and see what they might do for you? The worst that can happen is yo still have to pay the same amount as if you just sent it in. You might get lucky and get a break if you show up and plead your case.
Yeah, that is what I was thinking. I mean I am not trying to cheat, I was using it for what I thought was farm stuff. I just have not heard of this trailer inspection thing, funny no one has mentioned it on here before.
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:55 AM   #5
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The rules on farm tags both on trucks and trailers are pretty cut and dry and limited. I know that "recreational use" is not included, we have been pulled over going to a ranch rodeo. Even though we use the trailer 90 percent for qualifying uses, the trooper still gave us a hard time and a warning ticket. I think planting food plots would be probably be considered recreational.

I don't think staying in your county is a requirement either. You just have to be carrying farm products or livestock from the farm to the market or visa versa.

Here are the rules:

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/lw/cmvl...ation/Farm.asp
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:17 PM   #6
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I never herd this eather. I have a big horse trailer its not inspected. I have a 16 ft trailer hell it might be 20 ft. If I had a tractor on it would be over the limmit too.
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:48 PM   #7
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FARM TRAILER
An owner is not required to register a farm trailer or farm semitrailer that has a gross weight of 4,000 pounds or less. A vehicle owner my obtain a "FARM TRAILER" license plate for a farm trailer or farm semitrailer with a gross of more than 4,000 pounds but not more than 34,000 pounds. The fee for a "FARM TRAILER" license plate is $5.00 per year. A farm trailer or farm semitrailer with a "FARM TRAILER" license plate is exempt from the state inspection certificate requirements. "FARM TRAILER" license plates may only be used on farm trailers and farm semitrailers used exclusively to transport:

Thats crazy he stuck you like that. He must have been having a very bad day. I have a trailer I use to haul my 4-wheeler around on haul hay and irrigation pipe with and it has farms tags and I have never been questioned on it.
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Old 09-21-2008, 02:43 PM   #8
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I know Jaspro, and I was very polite about all of it. I think they are just looking for revenue. I hope the JOP will drop the tickets, but we will see.

Anyone know how much this inspection sticker cost?

Plus, I don't see where he can get me on both. The trailer has legit Farm Tags on it so it did not require the inspection even if he gets me for misuse of the Farm tags, the farm tags exempt it from the inspection.

Guess I will see about it with the JOP.

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Old 09-21-2008, 03:11 PM   #9
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"FARM TRAILER" license plates may only be used on farm trailers and farm semitrailers used exclusively to transport:

- seasonally harvested agricultural products or livestock from the place of production to the place of processing, market, storage: or
- farm supplies from the place of loading to the farm.

This section also applies to:

- a farm trailer or farm semitrailer owned by a cotton gin and used exclusively to transport agricultural products without charge from the place of production to the place of processing, market, or storage.
- a trailer used exclusively to transport fertilizer without charge form a place of supply or storage to a farm.
- a trailer used exclusively to transport cottonseed without charge from a place of supply or storage to a farm or place of processing.

This section does not apply to a farm trailer or farm semitrailer that:

- is used for hire; or
- has metal tires operating in contact with the highway: or
- is not equipped with an adequate hitch pinned or locked so that it will remain securely engaged to the towing vehicle while in motion; or
- is not operated and equipped in compliance with all other law. "


The word "exclusively" means nothing else can be on the trailer except the things listed. I haul my ATV and golf cart in a different county (as if they can tell) on my farm trailer, I've never been stopped, didn't know it was illegal.

How much is the fine? May be cheaper than regular tags.
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Old 09-21-2008, 04:18 PM   #10
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It's $95 for the misuse of Farm Tags, and $145 for the no inspection of trailer.

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Old 09-21-2008, 04:26 PM   #11
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Talked to a DPS friend of mine and yep, its the size of the trailer that bit you. Small utility trailers don't have to have all the fancy stuff, but the bigger trailers do. They started cracking down on this in the deep east texas area after the big scrap metal boom hit. Every Sanford and son in the country was hauling rusty metal to the local smasher on trailers that should have been scrap themselves! (I ain't tellin where they got the metal from!)
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Old 09-21-2008, 04:42 PM   #12
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Talked to a DPS friend of mine and yep, its the size of the trailer that bit you. Small utility trailers don't have to have all the fancy stuff, but the bigger trailers do. They started cracking down on this in the deep east texas area after the big scrap metal boom hit. Every Sanford and son in the country was hauling rusty metal to the local smasher on trailers that should have been scrap themselves! (I ain't tellin where they got the metal from!)
Ok, then that means everyone with a dual axel 16 foot trailer then needs this inspection sticker unlesss it has Farm Tags. Dual axels are 3500 lbs each for a total of 7000 lbs. The law states trailers over 4500 lbs.

Why have we not heard about this? A bunch of us on here have 16 ft trailers.

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Old 09-22-2008, 10:25 AM   #13
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You don't plant "food plots", you plant "winter Pasture".
You dont carry "deer corn", you carry "feed corn".

He was right and there are a lot of laws regarding trailers that are not strickly enforced. Type of axles(dual tandom req. DOT inspection), type of chains required(load grade), amount of reflective tape(?ft), type of booms(rachet type), # of booms and chains per implemet(2 on tractor one on implement), brake-a-ways, and use of trailer. The use of non load grade chains and non rachet booms for a tractor and something on the back is $1500.00
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:20 AM   #14
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Question for a trooper........I had heard about the registration but didn't pay attention to the weight requirement. I thought that the trailer would have an inspection on it when it left the dealer if it was required. A car can't leave a dealership before it has an inspection on it why can a trailer?
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:29 AM   #15
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I have Farm tags on both my trailers. 16' dual axle flatbed, and my 40' 4 horse slant with living quarters. Never heard of these stipulations before. As a matter of fact the dealer that I bought them from is the one that registered them for me. Am I in danger of a ticket also?
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:31 AM   #16
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Oh yes, I've been through this before with one of our shop trailers that was brand spanking new.

I called the sheriff's dept and raised about 37 different kinds of hell........and got nowhere. Finaly I asked "where do I get a *%&$!@$ trailer inspected?", and they said any Tx state inspection place can do it. So I drag the thing down to the oil change/carwash/inspection joint and tell them I want this trailer inspected, after which I received the blankest of stares...... Skippy the grease monkey goes inside and talks to his boss, comes back out and say's "uh, like dude, we don't do that here...." I said, "Skippy, that sign says Texas Inspection here, and somebody here is gonna inspect this *!@$#@%* trailer.....". Well then I get the manager out and make him get the book out and sure enough he found the proper info and we got'er inspected!

If they really want to get picky........they can write you a ticket for not having brakes on a trailer rated at 4500# or more...


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I never herd this eather. I have a big horse trailer its not inspected. I have a 16 ft trailer hell it might be 20 ft. If I had a tractor on it would be over the limmit too.
Doesn't matter what you've got on the trailer, the rules are based on it's GVWR (what it's RATED to haul).
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:45 AM   #17
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Honest truth is, the guy was being overly picky. Probably having a bad day you ended being his target.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:03 PM   #18
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Dale, your right but I have brakes and they were hooked up so he could not get me on that. Frankly he was curtious, but was looking for revenue for Washington county. Better watch out if you are going through Brenham or specifically Burton Texas on Hwy 290. I think this guys is earning his pay.

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Old 09-22-2008, 12:53 PM   #19
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If its based off GVWR is he going to pull the registraion on the trailer to check it? I know one of my tandem axle trailers is rated at 4000# on its registraion paper but in actuality I think its 7000#.
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Old 09-22-2008, 01:57 PM   #20
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That sucks man... I don't think I have hooked up to a trailer with a tag let alone an inspection. Working for my dads shop, I have given trailers inspections before and it was lights, tread, and reflectors. slap the sticker in front left. I have always heard if it has farm tags you should haul a bail of hay on it everywhere like a spare tire.
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:14 PM   #21
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If its based off GVWR is he going to pull the registraion on the trailer to check it? I know one of my tandem axle trailers is rated at 4000# on its registraion paper but in actuality I think its 7000#.
Jaspro, That's what he did he pulled the registration up on his computer I guess so yeah that is what he did but he was also looking at the rating sticker on the trailer too.

Oh, and he made me cross the safety chains or he said he would give me a citation for that too.

I finally found a place that does the inspections and he said I would need a brake away connector that activates the brakes with the battery to pass it More money and hassles.....

The thing is they could bust so many people for this...I don't think it is enforced or known about until they want to hassle you about something...

Oh, and this is supposed to be done YEARLY !!!

Oh Great, another $14 per year and a bunch of pain hauling it all over.

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Old 09-22-2008, 08:19 PM   #22
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I ran into the same problem when I tried to register a shopmade trailer for ISD I work for. Before I could get tags it had to be inspected. No one would inspect it, so I took it to the DPS and had an officer look it over. I also had to receive a number which had to be stamped on the trailer. The funny thing is, I didn't receiver a sticker or stamp of any kind. He said, "Yep, it's a trailer and meets the requirements.". He then signed the form and that was it.
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:33 PM   #23
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A guy from work gets pulled over usually 3 times by DPS every time he heads south on a family trip. They do everything short of cavity searches. He has learned to carry all his paper work like registration, inspection...

Just wait until everyone is dragging their ATV on their trailers, then DPS is going to want to see registration for them due to thief being so high.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:22 PM   #24
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I built my 20' trailer and wanted to do the right thing and register it. I went to the county office and they had never registered a home made trailer over 4000#, ever. It required a registration form, a weight form, DPS inspection for quality work and form, a serial number stamped in and DPS verification and form, a front and side picture and form, and a regular inspection and form, all sent in to DPS. That was the last trailer over 4000# cap. that I've built.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:21 PM   #25
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Here is an update on what I have found out so far.

Basically if the "Gross Weight" (weight of trailer + carrying capacity) is greater than 4500 lbs you need the inspection certficate, Unless you have Farm Tags and then you are exempt. This is not just for commercial vehicles its for our plain old trailers that are rated over 4500 lbs. This is not heavily enforced but can be and it is a $145 ticket. I think some places they are cracking down on this. Maybe your area they won't.

Here is the link to where it is defined.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/insp...classsubmit=Go

Below is a link to where to find a place to inspect trailers. For example if you put in your zip code in the section for "NON-Emisson Station Locator" you will see a list in your area. Then look in the column TL which stands for "Trailer Certificate" Then you may go there and they will inspect it. I used a zip of 77449 and you will see that GOLBOWS GARAGE INC not only does trailers but CW/CT (CW/CT = Commercial Windshield/Trailer certificate) so they are most likely more knowledgeable about trailers. I called and they know what I am asking about.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/insp...ew_locator.asp

Here's what's inspected by vehicle type.
Items of Inspection

05.06 Inspect All Trailers, Semitrailers, Pole Trailers, or Mobile Homes Exceeding 4,500 Pounds Actual Gross Weight or Registered Weight For: (Listed in suggested order of inspection) Refer to Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations, if required.

* Check for evidence of Financial Responsibility on towing vehicle

1. Brakes (system) (If gross weight exceeds 4,500 pounds)
2. Tires
3. Wheel Assembly
4. Safety Guards or Flaps (if four tires or more on rearmost axle) Pole trailers exempt.
5. Tail Lamps (2)
6. Stop Lamps (2)
7. License Plate Lamp (1)
8. Rear Red Reflectors (2)
9. Turn Signal Lamps
10. Clearance Lamps
11. Side Marker Lamps
12. Side Reflectors
13. Side Marker Lamps and Reflectors (30 feet or more in overall length)
(Refer to Reference Section as per lighting diagrams and as applicable to the particular trailer being inspected.)
14. Serial or Vehicle Identification Number

Good Luck, I hope this helps someone avoid the ticket I got due to ignorance. .....Ranchdog
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:19 PM   #26
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Wow, I had no idea I needed my 16 foot trailer inspected. I guess I better look into it. Thanks for the heads-up.
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:38 PM   #27
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Old 10-03-2008, 02:16 PM   #28
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Wow didn't relize you got a ticket. This one Burton cop is horrble. I work right here off 290 and and I see him pulling people over constantly. I have seen him sit Family's in the grass for an hour just to search there car then put them back on the road.
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Old 10-03-2008, 06:03 PM   #29
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also need to consider how much your truck and trailer is rated for combined... if its of 21k or 24k (can't remember) you may need a CDL.
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Old 10-03-2008, 06:38 PM   #30
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So if my trailer is rated for over 4500lbs. I have to have trailer brakes.....I bought it brand new without them.........***.........
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Old 10-04-2008, 10:37 AM   #31
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Wow didn't relize you got a ticket. This one Burton cop is horrble. I work right here off 290 and and I see him pulling people over constantly. I have seen him sit Family's in the grass for an hour just to search there car then put them back on the road.
Yeah, he gave me two tickets. Both I am fighting. In fact you may have to be a witness proving that yes we were planting at the ranch. I ain't giving my money without a fight in court....

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Old 10-04-2008, 10:38 AM   #32
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So if my trailer is rated for over 4500lbs. I have to have trailer brakes.....I bought it brand new without them.........***.........
Technically yes, This crap is crazy. No one enforces it but they can. The ticket for the inspection sticker is $145. Real chicken Sh** if you ask me.

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Old 10-04-2008, 10:11 PM   #33
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You got good cops and you got bad cops just like any other profession. You just got a bad one. Bad cops enforce the letter of the law and good cops enforce the spirit of the law.
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