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Old 05-18-2012, 12:47 PM   #1
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I am looking at a new bow. right now its between an Elite Answer (which I haven't shot) and the Mathews Heli-M.

the Mathews shot well at the range. It had an easy draw but I wasn't crazy about it. Its a little slow.

The only Elite Answers I can find are up at Jerry's about 4 hours away.

Does anybody here have the Answer? how is it?

the only other I was considering was the Insanity
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:49 PM   #2
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I haven't shot an elite, but I like the transferable lifetime warranty for resale purposes.
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Old 05-18-2012, 01:00 PM   #3
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I have shot both of them and if I had the money it would be the Answer all the way.
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Old 05-18-2012, 01:08 PM   #4
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You can thank me later, go shoot the Bear Carnage. I shot the HeliM, Insanity and 2 bows from Elite, there's no comparison. It's fast (345IBO), quiet, and literally shock free. I am blown away.

I'm a Hoyt guy, so I went in wanting a Carbon Matrix, didn't care for it at all. Decided my second option was a Mathews, LOVED the HeliM! Smooth, very smooth, and quiet too. Then I shot the Destroyer 350 and thought, "This is the bow for me..." I like a draw cycle that loads up on the front then is smooth all the way back, that's what D350 and Carnage are like. After shooting them side by side for about 30 mins, put the Carnage on layaway lol. If you'd have asked me a month ago what I thought about Bear I'd have told you they're garbage. They have done a complete 180 and I'll say this, with how smooth, quiet and fast the Carnage is, it's the best hunting bow made yet

I know that's a BOLD statement, but if you shoot one, you'll agree. There are a few that are faster but not by more than 5 fps and a whole lot more handshock, vibration and kick, not to mention noise. Bear knocked one out of the park with this bow.


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Old 05-18-2012, 01:56 PM   #5
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You can thank me later, go shoot the Bear Carnage. I shot the HeliM, Insanity and 2 bows from Elite, there's no comparison. It's fast (345IBO), quiet, and literally shock free. I am blown away.

I'm a Hoyt guy, so I went in wanting a Carbon Matrix, didn't care for it at all. Decided my second option was a Mathews, LOVED the HeliM! Smooth, very smooth, and quiet too. Then I shot the Destroyer 350 and thought, "This is the bow for me..." I like a draw cycle that loads up on the front then is smooth all the way back, that's what D350 and Carnage are like. After shooting them side by side for about 30 mins, put the Carnage on layaway lol. If you'd have asked me a month ago what I thought about Bear I'd have told you they're garbage. They have done a complete 180 and I'll say this, with how smooth, quiet and fast the Carnage is, it's the best hunting bow made yet

I know that's a BOLD statement, but if you shoot one, you'll agree. There are a few that are faster but not by more than 5 fps and a whole lot more handshock, vibration and kick, not to mention noise. Bear knocked one out of the park with this bow.

2011 Bow review: Bear Archery Carnage - YouTube
Interesting..will have to shoot it Saturday
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:23 PM   #6
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Interesting..will have to shoot it Saturday
Please let me know what you think. If you don't walk out of there with it, I'll be surprised.

Just FYI, not trying to hijack the thread, just had experience shooting both bows mentioned and thought I'd give my take. Of the two you mentioned, if I had to chose one of them, I'd go with the HeliM....I liked it a lot better than the Elite bows. The grip on the HeliM is the best grip I've ever put in my hand, it's excellent.
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:29 PM   #7
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I am looking at a new bow. right now its between an Elite Answer (which I haven't shot) and the Mathews Heli-M.

the Mathews shot well at the range. It had an easy draw but I wasn't crazy about it. Its a little slow.

The only Elite Answers I can find are up at Jerry's about 4 hours away.

Does anybody here have the Answer? how is it?

the only other I was considering was the Insanity
Answer if it were me. I did not like the helium one bit.
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:33 PM   #8
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Answer for me and I have shot both...
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:42 PM   #9
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Answer for me and I have shot both...
Helim is to short, too light and too slow for my taste. My biggest issue is the weight. It feels nice when you pic it up. But i shot 3-D for years. Side winds blow a lighter bow around to much for my personal taste.
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:59 PM   #10
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Kewl ! thanks guys

anybody shoot the Bowtech Insanity
scary fast bust the speed and brace height worry me
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Old 05-18-2012, 03:14 PM   #11
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Kewl ! thanks guys

anybody shoot the Bowtech Insanity
scary fast bust the speed and brace height worry me
It will shock you as far as lack of what ur worried about. I just dont like short bows myself. Out of all the bows mentioned on this thread. If i had to choose it would be the Insanity.
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Kewl ! thanks guys

anybody shoot the Bowtech Insanity
scary fast bust the speed and brace height worry me
I didn't like the draw cycle. Yes it's scary fast.
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Old 05-18-2012, 05:31 PM   #13
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To me, the insanity drew just like the destroyer......
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:42 PM   #14
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I'm new to the archery game, but I shot the Insanity, Heli-M, Invasion, Carbon Element, Quest Primal, Vector 32 and 35 and Carnage.

I chose the Vector 35 then bought a Maxxis 35 from a TBH'r

The Heli-M had NO valley at all. It just didn't feel comfortable, and the Insanity was too aggressive for me. But a aggressive as the Insanity was, if my only choices were it and the Heli-M, I would have chosen the Insanity. Intersetingly enough I loved the Quest Primal, I liked it alot. Just didn't want to buy it from a box store.

Never shot an Answer, have no opinion on that.
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:50 PM   #15
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For me it came down to the answer or the insanity... I came home with the answer and couldn't be more pleased.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:22 PM   #16
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I am looking around for an Answer to shoot
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:03 AM   #17
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I'm new to the archery game, but I shot the Insanity, Heli-M, Invasion, Carbon Element, Quest Primal, Vector 32 and 35 and Carnage.

I chose the Vector 35 then bought a Maxxis 35 from a TBH'r

The Heli-M had NO valley at all. It just didn't feel comfortable, and the Insanity was too aggressive for me. But a aggressive as the Insanity was, if my only choices were it and the Heli-M, I would have chosen the Insanity. Intersetingly enough I loved the Quest Primal, I liked it alot. Just didn't want to buy it from a box store.

Never shot an Answer, have no opinion on that.
I always get tickled when i here speed bows called buttery smooth....Agree on the valley. To me the valley was better on the insanity. But i often here speed demons billed as smooth. None of em are and are not ment to be. They have to be aggresive to generate those speeds. They make em as smooth as they can. All companies. Some are smoother than others and alot of em have a different break over and valley. My 82nd is not what i know as smooth. But it is plenty managable and i am very accurate with it. Even at longer ranges.

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I always get tickled when i here speed bows called buttery smooth....Agree on the valley. To me the valley was better on the insanity. But i often here speed demons billed as smooth. None of em are and are not ment to be. They have to be aggresive to generate those speeds. They make em as smooth as they can. All companies. Some are smoother than others and alot of em have a different break over and valley. My 82nd is not what i know as smooth. But it is plenty managable and i am very accurate with it. Even at longer ranges.
Everyone is different. Just like we all like different music, different women and different bows . I never thought I'd say a speed bow was smooth but I thought the Destroyer 350 was smooth or the Carnage with a 345 IBO speed but they were at the poundage I shot them at (60/61). I think that makes a huge difference.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:43 AM   #19
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You are more than welcome to shoot my Answer if you make it this way.....Im in Hallettsville.
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Old 05-19-2012, 04:55 PM   #20
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Everyone is different. Just like we all like different music, different women and different bows . I never thought I'd say a speed bow was smooth but I thought the Destroyer 350 was smooth or the Carnage with a 345 IBO speed but they were at the poundage I shot them at (60/61). I think that makes a huge difference.
Austin your too young to understand what im sayin bro.
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:48 PM   #21
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DO yourself a favor, go see Jerry. I have shot helim and didn't care for it one bit. And then when I saw you could felx the riser with your bare hands it totally lost me. Jerry has the Heli-m, Elite, Bowtech, PSE you can compare alot of bows. And if you buy one, it will shoot lights out before it leaves the store or it won't leave.
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Austin your too young to understand what im sayin bro.
I'm 37........
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I'm 37........
Apparently not been bowhunting long enough tho to remember what a smooth bow was.

And yes. I had you confused with someone else.
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I think there is a place in Willis that has elite. Bushmaster Archery I think.
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Old 05-20-2012, 12:10 AM   #25
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Apparently not been bowhunting long enough tho to remember what a smooth bow was.

And yes. I had you confused with someone else.
Been bowhunting since 1990...first bow was a PSE Thunder Flight Express, what else ya got?

No problem, I'm hitting the hay, I'm beat. Had to fill 24 bags of corn into 5 feeders today.
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Been bowhunting since 1990...first bow was a PSE Thunder Flight Express, what else ya got?

No problem, I'm hitting the hay, I'm beat. Had to fill 24 bags of corn into 5 feeders today.
A thunder chicken. Had one too great bow at that time.
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:22 PM   #27
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since its still up in the air i would go see jerry and shoot the answer then a sx rush. i think these are the top of the line bows this year for "speed" bows. yes, they are not the fastest but offer the shooter a perfect balance of speed, forgiveness and shootability. you have a lot of great models on the table so just go shoot the flagship speed bow from everybody. a couple of tanks of gas is better than not knowing.

good luck.

Dave W, i live in the houston area and would be more than happy to hook up with you so you could shoot my rush. santa fe, is a dealer know and they have all the 12's on hand. it's a little far so let me know if you are intersted. i'm not going to try and sell you on the bow, it sells itself..............

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Old 05-21-2012, 01:21 PM   #28
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I bought the elite answer and have never looked back. Smooth quiet and fast what more do you want.
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