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Old 02-21-2011, 10:15 PM   #1
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alright, so i'm planning on putting some pecans and fruit trees on my ranch in a couple of weeks , but west texas heat can be tough on young trees, so I came up with this idea to water them when they need it... I made a prototype in my driveway and it dispersed a little over 3 gallons overnight (12 hours or so..)

so here it is in short.. 55 gallon drum, some pvc fittings and a valve .. and cut up soaker hose.. make a ring from the soaker hose.. (see pic).. the bigger the ring , the more water it will put out.. the valve can slow the flow or turn off when not needed... the plan is to plant the tree.. put this ring on , then cover with mulch .. this way, less chance for evaporation, and all the water gets to the tree

I'll have to see how the trees do from turning this on for a day or so on the weekends.. based on rainfall, heat, etc... i'm not always there.. so here's the pic.I plan on planting 5 trees at a time just to seei'll start with pecan , pear and maybe one other kind.... deer ought to love it...whatcha think ?
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:18 PM   #2
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Makes sense to me. Gonna be heavy though.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:58 PM   #3
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tractor with front end loader will do the hard work .. got a 300 gallon on a trailer for refills just got to buy a pump...
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:31 AM   #4
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Ought to work pretty good. Gonna have to build some pens around your trees or the deer will eat them and kill them. Would hate to see all that hard work go down the drain.
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Old 02-22-2011, 12:22 PM   #5
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You could put a guzzler on top to catch the free rain water when it is there.
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:49 PM   #6
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nice.....if your 300 gallon tank in higher that the top of the barrels you shouldn't need a pump. not sure how hight your trailer is.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:21 PM   #7
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Several years ago i planted some fruit trees. I used 4" pvc about 3 feet long necked down to 1" for about a foot and put a cap on the small end. Then i drilled about 10 1/8 diameter holes close to the bottom on the side facing the tree. Buried the bottom 12" in the ground and filled it up with water. The ground will soak up the water as needed and being below ground level it tends to make the roots of the tree go down deeper in search of water and will help them out later on. I would bury your soaker hose at least a foot deep and would do the same thing i did with a bigger tank for the water.

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Old 02-22-2011, 07:54 PM   #8
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You can buy a battery operated flow switch at home depot that works on a timer.So you dont have to worry about turning it off and on. You can find it where the sprinkler stuff is at.
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Old 02-24-2011, 09:33 AM   #9
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You can buy a battery operated flow switch at home depot that works on a timer.So you dont have to worry about turning it off and on. You can find it where the sprinkler stuff is at.
I don't think so .. most of them require minimum water pressure to work properly .. I emailed a company that specializes in this and they could not find one that would work with no pressure.. someone makes it .. but they don't carry it .. the home depot ones are the same way...

on the refill part .. I just ordered a well to be drilled on my place .. so i'll have water close by with no chemicals in it like city water.. i'll just get an extra barrel filled up and go refill that way .. just laying in the front end loader of the tractor and lifted 10 feet or so should make gravity drain pretty fast ...

I'll just turn the water on a needed for 12 to 24 hours every few weeks when I go there... i'll use a shovel to see waht the moisture level is around the tree

this way the roots won't be wet all the time either ..

I also think that as the ground saturates , the flow will slow ... we'll see..

got the barrels filled and on the trailer .. taking them this weekend along with 5 new trees .. 2 pecans and 3 fruit trees.. (what ever cross polinates)

I plan on using cattle pannels to wrap around the trees .. a 16 ft panel should make a nice circle around the tree and keep the critters out ...

my cz 452 will do the rest if varmints decide to try to pass the fortifications ..
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:20 PM   #10
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Great idea! I need to do this too.
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:30 PM   #11
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update! well the trees are in the ground.. and the barrels are installed... however it seems like it poured 1/3 of the barrel overnight.. I think the barrels being in the sun all day built up some pressure... so a small pressure relief hole will be needed on top, or run less time...

well , they got a good soaking either way.. got pic on my phone.. will post it later!
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:41 PM   #12
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Well as the barrel empty's the flow will decrease as the pressure drops. p=gdh
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:42 PM   #13
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Should work like a champ. basicly a huge tree gator
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:50 AM   #14
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like the ideal ,might have to use the same set up when you get all the bugs worked out.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:54 AM   #15
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They will water less and less as the water level drops but I really like the idea.
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Old 02-28-2011, 10:11 AM   #16
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well, i'm thinking of making a water level device for the lid , using pvc pipes .. one larger one screwed to the lig .. inside , a smaller one with water marks ..and a float .. so as the level goes down .. the pipe goes down and you can see really quick what the level is ...with a little practice , I could really gauge how many gallons of water I'm using ...

it would also serve as a pressure relief ...
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Old 03-11-2011, 05:58 PM   #17
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done and installed.... updated pic...

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Old 03-11-2011, 09:10 PM   #18
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update! well the trees are in the ground.. and the barrels are installed... however it seems like it poured 1/3 of the barrel overnight.. I think the barrels being in the sun all day built up some pressure... so a small pressure relief hole will be needed on top, or run less time...

well , they got a good soaking either way.. got pic on my phone.. will post it later!
drill a small hole in the lid, pressure won't biuld up
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:44 PM   #19
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so far so good .. trees are blooming ! here is an update video of the refilling!
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Old 04-05-2011, 07:53 PM   #20
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That is a great idea
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Old 04-09-2011, 05:18 PM   #21
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make sure and do something about insects. I did the same thing and the grasshoppers ate my two trees.
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Old 04-09-2011, 05:29 PM   #22
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nice job,im trying to figure out something about my garden,its so windy a sprinklers not working
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Old 04-09-2011, 06:04 PM   #23
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what kind of fertilizer are you using, a use a root stimulator when i plant new trees.
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Old 04-09-2011, 06:07 PM   #24
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nice job,im trying to figure out something about my garden,its so windy a sprinklers not working
Try using a drip irrigation, the wind shouldn't be a problem
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Old 04-10-2011, 08:52 PM   #25
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i used insecticidal soap for bugs, and root stimulator for the tree roots when i planted.. i'll probably start the first round of fertilizer soon... as far as grass hoppers, I mowed the field so the weeds are knocked down... hopefully that will help as well...
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:27 PM   #26
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imyomama, hey sorry man but i used your idea, it works great
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Old 04-11-2011, 07:59 AM   #27
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Cool!!! I'm glad my DIY helped someone!! take a pic, and give us updates from time to time! I think it would be helpful to post watering intervals and fertilizing schedules as well... keeping the bugs from eating them is going to be the key!

I already had spiders eating the leaves.. I'm going to keep spraying them with the soap.....

so far I've watered every weekend .. hopefully we'll get some rain! won't be back for 2 weeks...

I leave them on for 3 to 4 hours now... a green grass ring is now forming around them as well ... so I think it's about right!
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Old 04-11-2011, 04:49 PM   #28
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Okay, here is a little project I have going this year. Planted 20 Allegheny Chinkapins and Dwarf Chinkapin Oaks for the deer. Both are drought tolerant once established, and produce at an early age. I used 5'x5' squares of black plastic to create a solar still effect, reduce evaporation, and minmize moisture loss due to weed competition. Also planted them with some of the moisture crystals in the hole with the roots. The ground I dished into a bowl shape before the trees went in to help collect runoff.



In the left edge of this next picure you can see my water totes, I use the bottom one for a gravity flow deer waterer on the other side of the brush, and the top one I use to run my gravity flow drip irrigation system for my trees. I use regular drip tubing and emitters, but you need a special timer. The folks that say most timers need about 10psi are correct, except there is one that works on zero pressure. It is made by Holman, and called the low pressure timer (TLP), It is available from a company called Dripworks for $40. Google it, you will find it. I know it will work because I am running two of them for my chinkapins and japanese persimmons. I use the take apart emitters from dripworks too, because if the get clogged you can just take them apart and clean them. Good cheap system that wont run you ragged hauling water.

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Old 04-11-2011, 05:49 PM   #29
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4-6 inches of good mulch or hay about 2 feet out all the way around will keep the grass and weeds from competing and conserve your water in a big way. I would hold off on the fertilizing until about this time next year. You are looking for natural deep root growth and the root stimulator you already gave them should be more than ample for this growing season.
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4-6 inches of good mulch or hay about 2 feet out all the way around will keep the grass and weeds from competing and conserve your water in a big way. I would hold off on the fertilizing until about this time next year. You are looking for natural deep root growth and the root stimulator you already gave them should be more than ample for this growing season.
thanks for that .. I was going to go to the nursery to find out... the ground id sandy loam for a little over a foot and turning into clay soon after... i'm hoping this type of soil will be ok...I was told not to mix any potting soil with it, just keep it all the same composition... this is my first try .. i hope it works ...

one of my pecan trees bloomed but the blooms turned brown after a week... not sure if that's normal or not... on the oaks it seems it does that before the leaves come in.. so we'll see in a couple of weeks when i get back over there...

hopefully we got a little rain there last night as well... it has not rained ther in 3 months (callahan county)
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:41 PM   #31
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When i plant trees, i dig out the grass around the tree 2-4 feet, just scrap it down enough to get the roots out, u can then spray a little round-up to kill the remainding roots, also there is a product called PREEN, u can sprinkle it around the tree to help prevent weed growth, then build a mote around the tree to help with watering, should be built just outside the hole that was dug, when it does rain it will help filter more water into the base of the tree. Also 2-4 inches of mulch will help with weed suppression and moisture control, just be sure not to put to much around the trunk. As far as insects, the soap works, but there are lots of granuals that can be sprinkled around the base of the tree, the bugs will eat that first before climbing. sorry for the long post.
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:43 PM   #32
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oh and even though you used a root stimulator, drop a coulple handfuls of a granual fertilzer around the base, i usually throw it in the hole before planting, but on top around the trunk works well, i prefer OSMOCOTE!!
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Old 04-12-2011, 06:46 AM   #33
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You may not want to hear this one but if they are trees fresh off a nursery you should cut about the top half of the tree to allow the root to shoot ratio to balance out. You will get fruit faster this way and your young trees will not be as stressed.
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Old 04-12-2011, 07:01 AM   #34
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When I plant trees, I mix the dirt from the hole 50/50 with a good compost. Mix in a little organic (such as medina growing green) fertilizer. Do not dig the hole deeper than the pot the tree came in. But dig it about twice as big around, in a square, this will help keep the roots from becoming root bound, but might not be such and issue in the sand.
You will want to bury the tree at the same depth as it was in the pot, bury it deeper and in a few years you will run the risk of the trunk rotting out and killing the tree.
And don't skimp on the mulch, but like mentioned, pull it away from the trunk a little.
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