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Old 03-19-2010, 04:22 PM   #1
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I have grown up on a ranch in the Hondo/ Bandera area my whole life and had only seen this snake once before. Today we found this guy on a trail at Enchanted Rock and took some pictures before moving him well off the trail for his own good. Did not want him harmed. I think it is cool that they flatten out to make themselves look bigger as protection.



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Old 03-19-2010, 04:25 PM   #2
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It looks like a hognose snake, but I've only seen a couple of them.
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:25 PM   #3
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Om my blackberry but look's lik a hognose to me.
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:26 PM   #4
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Hognose or we called them spreadnatters!
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:27 PM   #5
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Looks like maybe a Hognose.
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:27 PM   #6
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Do hognose flatten out like that to look like a cobra?
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:27 PM   #7
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yep, its to make them look bigger and scare the predator away.
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:28 PM   #8
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Western Hognose
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:28 PM   #9
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spread natter, I used to hunt across the street from enchanted rock!!
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:28 PM   #10
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cant tell from the picture but is his nose pointed upward?
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:29 PM   #11
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Hognose / Spread'n atter - I find them routinely in my tack / feed rooms
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:30 PM   #12
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cant tell from the picture but is his nose pointed upward?
No he is laying flat.
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:36 PM   #13
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yep, its to make them look bigger and scare the predator away.
Kewl!!! I learned something new today!!!!
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:37 PM   #14
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Do hognose flatten out like that to look like a cobra?
Ya, they flatten their necks like a cobra and hiss if they feel threatened, but they hardly ever strike in defense. It's kind of funny that this kind of snake will even roll over on its back and "play dead."
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:38 PM   #15
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this is the western hognose see how the tip of the nose it kinda bent upward



if it was then most likely a hognose since it was flattening out.

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Old 03-19-2010, 04:39 PM   #16
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:43 PM   #17
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Hognose....
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:44 PM   #18
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Yep, hognose. I used to play with those. I got sent to the principal's office when I was in the 5th grade for pulling one of those out of the pocket of my ToughSkins to show a girl. I thought she'd like it, but instead she screamed quite loud-and long, and the teacher wasn't too happy either.
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:47 PM   #19
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Grew up in SE Missouri and we had hognoses around too. I think my mom and grandparents called them hoop snakes. The legend was that they would take their tail in their mouth and roll down a hill, then when they got to you, they'd let go of the tail and "sting" you with it. So, if you saw one, the best defense was to get up slope as they couldn't roll uphill. Also had "blue racers" which were common black snakes and the legend on them was that they would chase you if you got too close--
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Old 03-19-2010, 09:54 PM   #20
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Old 03-19-2010, 10:02 PM   #21
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good on ya, sir !
thats one of the best of all snakes, good on ya for giving him a pass !

(you're 10 times the man of half the posters here )
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Old 03-19-2010, 10:49 PM   #22
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I like snakes and do not have a problem with them. I have had one other encounter with this species of snake and just assume they are pretty rare in my area of Texas. I grew up on a ranch and have seen all kind of snakes, but only seen this species twice. I knew he was not poisonous and will not kill them if they are not. Heck I want kill a rattlesnake in the middle of the pasture, but if they get close to the barn or house they die. Snakes are way to beneficial to just kill.
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:04 PM   #23
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Why "spread natter"?
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:08 PM   #24
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spreadin atter. I assume because there is a puff atter snake.
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:51 PM   #25
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Grew up in SE Missouri and we had hognoses around too. I think my mom and grandparents called them hoop snakes. The legend was that they would take their tail in their mouth and roll down a hill, then when they got to you, they'd let go of the tail and "sting" you with it. So, if you saw one, the best defense was to get up slope as they couldn't roll uphill. Also had "blue racers" which were common black snakes and the legend on them was that they would chase you if you got too close--
That would be a coach whip I think is what your Grandparents were talking about . Hog nose , Speadin Adder because of the way they spread out
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Old 03-20-2010, 07:55 AM   #26
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Hognose for sure. Got one about 20 feet down the hall in my son's room. Cool little snakes. They flatten their necks out to look more threatening to predetors. They will also play dead if you mess with them. They roll onto thier backs. Be careful though, they are venimous. Fangs are in the back of thier mouths like corral snakes. They eat frogs in the wild but we feed ours baby mice. That reminds me, I gotta run to the pet store today
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Old 03-20-2010, 08:01 AM   #27
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(you're 10 times the man of half the posters here )
I agree! I am skeered of snakes, no doubt about it. Them that can't hurt me make me hurt myself.
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Old 03-20-2010, 08:07 AM   #28
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Hog nose. Keep em' around. They eat rats. You wont have mice problems as long as you got those around.
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Old 03-20-2010, 09:14 AM   #29
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Yep, it's a hognose. Cool snakes for sure. Ranks right up there w/the goats that go stiff/faint when you scare them.

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Old 03-20-2010, 09:28 AM   #30
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Old 03-20-2010, 09:33 AM   #31
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Hognose for sure. Got one about 20 feet down the hall in my son's room. Cool little snakes. They flatten their necks out to look more threatening to predetors. They will also play dead if you mess with them. They roll onto thier backs. Be careful though, they are venimous. Fangs are in the back of thier mouths like corral snakes. They eat frogs in the wild but we feed ours baby mice. That reminds me, I gotta run to the pet store today
never heard that before
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Old 03-20-2010, 09:42 AM   #32
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Grew up in SE Missouri and we had hognoses around too. I think my mom and grandparents called them hoop snakes. The legend was that they would take their tail in their mouth and roll down a hill, then when they got to you, they'd let go of the tail and "sting" you with it. So, if you saw one, the best defense was to get up slope as they couldn't roll uphill. Also had "blue racers" which were common black snakes and the legend on them was that they would chase you if you got too close--
Down hear the older generation called the (politically correct) "african american chasers"
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Old 03-20-2010, 09:54 AM   #33
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That would be a coach whip I think is what your Grandparents were talking about . Hog nose , Speadin Adder because of the way they spread out

I believe someone posted a photo of a coach whip on here not too long ago. That and the hog nose are interesting looking snakes. And although it is tough for me to say Good ones

Thanks for the post
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:00 AM   #34
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Good snake right there.
My grandpa called em a Spreadinadder also

They also give off a strong stinky odor when agitated.
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:13 AM   #35
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Yep, hognose. I used to play with those. I got sent to the principal's office when I was in the 5th grade for pulling one of those out of the pocket of my ToughSkins to show a girl. I thought she'd like it, but instead she screamed quite loud-and long, and the teacher wasn't too happy either.
Reminds me of me. In the 7th grade I produced a Tarantula out of my shirt pocket and a girl behind me screamed and my teacher, Ol Lady Carter turned around and saw it crawling over my shoulder. She fainted and fell back and hit her head on the blackboard chalk rail and broke it off. The principal was just outside and came in and took me to the office where he proceeded to beat my butt with his oak bed slat paddle. I also got detention hall every day after school for the rest of the school year. I still have not figured out why I didn't get a whoopin from my dad when I got home because the rule was, If you got a paddling at school, you got another one when you got home and you best not do away with the note that got sent home with you or it was twice as bad.
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:17 AM   #36
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Copperheadedwaterrattler I think.
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:53 AM   #37
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Hognose is what I think. I`ve only saw one and it was just like that.
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:55 AM   #38
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Hognoses are not poisonous--
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Old 03-20-2010, 11:24 AM   #39
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Old 03-20-2010, 11:31 AM   #40
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Didn't say they were piosonous. I was told when we got him (and have been told several times since then) that they have fangs in the back of their mouths that do inject a venom that helps emobolize their prey. It's not anything that would hurt you but if you did get bit on the finger or thumb it would kinda numb it for a while. Anyway that's what I was told. I've had ours for about 10 years now and never been bit
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Old 03-20-2010, 11:46 AM   #41
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SORRY! my bad. They do not inject venom. It is their saliva that is believed to be toxic. Toxic, venomous...tomAto..tomato. Anyway, sorry for the wrong info.
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:13 PM   #42
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Hognose snakes (Heterodon) are rear-fanged and technically not venomous, but the saliva they excrete is considered toxic to prey but not considered to be dangerous to humans and they will never bite in defense (as the only way to get bitten by a hognose snake is to smell like their prey
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:25 PM   #43
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From the Florida Museum of Natural History
Scientific name "Heterodon Platirhinos"
Comments: HARMLESS (Non-Venemous).

Heterodon means "different tooth," which refers to the enlarged teeth on the rear of the upper jaw. These teeth inject a mild venom into its prey, and also serve to pop inflated toads like a balloon to enable swallowing. They use their blunt nose to search through leaf litter and soil for prey.

Adults mainly eat toads, but will sometimes eat other frogs, insects, and invertebrates. Juveniles eat small frogs and toads, insects, lizards, and small snakes.

It lays eggs. Breeding takes place in both the spring and fall. Males often follow the female around for several days prior to courtship and copulation. They lay between 4-61 whitish, thin shelled, leathery eggs 1.25 inches (3.2 cm) long. Eggs are deposited in a moist sandy, shallow hole, or under debris, and hatch in 39-65 days. Hatchlings are 6.5-9.5 inches (16-24 cm).

The Hognose Snake is renowned for its "death feigning" behavior. When threatened, it flattens its head and neck and hisses loudly. It may strike, but only with its mouth closed. If it is further harassed, it will flip on its back and convulse for a short period and may defecate and regurgitate its food. It will then remain motionless with its belly up, mouth open, and tongue hanging out. It may play dead for several minutes before cautiously turning over, looking around to see if it is safe before crawling away.

Flattening its head and hissing when it is frightened gave rise to two of the local names used for this snake. Florida crackers (native Floridians) call the banded form of the Hognose Snake a "Puff Adder" and correctly believe it to be harmless. However, the black form of the Hognose Snake is called a "Spreading Adder" and is wrongly believed to be deadly. Both color forms of the Eastern Hognose Snake are harmless to humans. However, humans that are allergic to its small amount of venom have been known to produce local swelling, but no human death has ever occurred.

Another old myth says that the Hognose Snake can mix venom with its breath and is thus able to kill a person from a distance of twenty-five feet. In truth, its breath is harmless.
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:26 PM   #44
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nice pic.. new to me..
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:32 PM   #45
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Definitely hognose.
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:49 PM   #46
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Good ol' spreadin' adder. They'll scare the &&&& outta ya!
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Old 03-22-2010, 06:07 AM   #47
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common hog nose a good snake dont kill.
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:43 AM   #48
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:14 PM   #49
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:53 AM   #50
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for some reason it's alive! I usually call all snakes dead snakes but to each his own!
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