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Old 03-16-2010, 07:25 PM   #1
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Was doing some general goofing off in the four-wheeler a last weekend. I like to call it scouting, my wife thinks otherwise. Came across a new born cafe, several days old that had the hide pulled over its head and been cleaned out pretty good. The mom was not too far off with deep scratches and blood around the face, head and neck. This was in the Cushing, TX area. Unfortunately, i did not have my camera or i would have posted some pics. It was a very fresh kill, since it was 8am dont know if the cat or cats were finished with breakfast, so me and the kids high tailed it. Where is the game cam when you need it! Hard to make out any individual tracks, looked like alot of activitiy around the kill. Some have speculated that it is a female with cubs.
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:27 PM   #2
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I am hearing reports that the big cats have been seen in the Sam Houston National Forest near Willis, Texas but I still have not seen any pics!
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:28 PM   #3
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Was doing some general goofing off in the four-wheeler a last weekend. I like to call it scouting, my wife thinks otherwise. Came across a new born cafe, several days old that had the hide pulled over its head and been cleaned out pretty good. The mom was not too far off with deep scratches and blood around the face, head and neck. This was in the Cushing, TX area. Unfortunately, i did not have my camera or i would have posted some pics. It was a very fresh kill, since it was 8am dont know if the cat or cats were finished with breakfast, so me and the kids high tailed it. Where is the game cam when you need it! Hard to make out any individual tracks, looked like alot of activitiy around the kill. Some have speculated that it is a female with cubs.
You should go put a cam on it.
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:38 PM   #4
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Oh yeah. Definitely put a cam on that thing.
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:54 PM   #5
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my parents have seen one at their pond behind their house, this is in the Emory,Alba Golden area just north of Canton.
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:59 PM   #6
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When i see one with my own eyes then ill believe it.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:01 PM   #7
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Black Anyone????
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:11 PM   #8
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The kill is probably gone by now, but the threat is still there and new calves are dropping. Hopefully, they have moved on, i have read that the roaming area can be very large. Unless there is plenty of food in the area!!!
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:31 PM   #9
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That's cool, I wouldn't doubt it, but there sure are alot of stories, and not very many pictures.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:41 PM   #10
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Those big cats have always been in East Tx. and North La. if you spend enough time in the woods you will see them because they have already seen you.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:19 AM   #11
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I have a freind in jacksonville that has 2 of them on his game camera at the same time.
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:27 AM   #12
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My brother in law saw one in Jan when we were predator hunting. It came into the call right up to the truck! We were unsure if we could shoot it so we let it go! Let's just say we were a little nervious for a while wondering where it went. We were in Cushing then.
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:35 AM   #13
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When i see one with my own eyes then ill believe it.
X2 and then nobody will believe me
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:38 AM   #14
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:40 AM   #15
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I know those big cats get hungry, but to take on a whole cafe is amazing! Newly born business or not, that's impressive.



J/K. My dad has seen one and found at least 3 kills on his place in Crockett in the last 9 months or so. And NO, the one he saw was not black, just a regular ol' boring cougar.
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:42 AM   #16
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When i see one with my own eyes then ill believe it.


Ha! Yeah, but your camera will be at home or broke or something will scare it off before you get a picture or it will come up to your truck but you won't shoot it because you didn't know if you could so no one (well maybe a select few) will believe you.
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:44 AM   #17
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There are a few cougars here in the DFW Metroplex. Opps, wrong forum. ;-)
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:48 AM   #18
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You can choose to believe it or not but it's not a secret that there are cats in East Texas. We had several on the lease I was on a couple of years ago in the Pineland area. I have never seen one but I have seen tracks on numerous occasions and several folks had game cam pics of them.



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Old 03-17-2010, 09:07 AM   #19
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You can choose to believe it or not but it's not a secret that there are cats in East Texas. We had several on the lease I was on a couple of years ago in the Pineland area. I have never seen one but I have seen tracks on numerous occasions and several folks had game cam pics of them.



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Of course there are cats in East Texas. I thought they were referring to cougars and mountain lions and such of which there are none.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:09 AM   #20
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There are a few cougars here in the DFW Metroplex. Opps, wrong forum. ;-)
Dang I about spit coffee ewhere!
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:48 AM   #21
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Was doing some general goofing off in the four-wheeler a last weekend. I like to call it scouting, my wife thinks otherwise. Came across a new born cafe, several days old that had the hide pulled over its head and been cleaned out pretty good. The mom was not too far off with deep scratches and blood around the face, head and neck. This was in the Cushing, TX area. Unfortunately, i did not have my camera or i would have posted some pics. It was a very fresh kill, since it was 8am dont know if the cat or cats were finished with breakfast, so me and the kids high tailed it. Where is the game cam when you need it! Hard to make out any individual tracks, looked like alot of activitiy around the kill. Some have speculated that it is a female with cubs.
Cool, our lease is in Cushing, Tx. Maybe I'll have one on the cam when I pull the card next time.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:50 AM   #22
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Prolly best I stay out of this one.
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:18 AM   #23
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Three people on or around my lease near Newton have had close encounters with big cats. One has decided he will no longer be afraid of scaring deer by walking without a light !
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:23 AM   #24
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Beleive what you want, I saw one when I was about 11yrs old, so close I could see the saliva dripping off of his tongue. Scared the bejesus out of me, so scared in fact, i was afraid to shoot,for fear of wounding it and it "gettin me", haha. Truth is, it was a young one and my 16ga load of 6's would have tore a hole in him a golf ball would fit thru, but I opted to run like a spotted ape, i bet there was actually smoke coming out of my footprints, I don't think I have reached those speeds since! This was Polk County, right outside of Corrigan, Tx.
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:45 AM   #25
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Have plaster casts of cougar tracks (4.5 inch paws) from last spring in Royse City (30 miles east of Dallas). Tracks are back in the same place this year. Guys from North Texas Water were working on a pump station in Royse City about 6 weeks ago early one morning and saw a deer running out of the woods in the creek bottom with a large cougar chasing behind. This was about 1-2 miles from where we found the tracks.

Believe it or not but they are here.
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:52 AM   #26
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I thought they were referring to cougars and mountain lions and such of which there are none.



Well, I guess that'll have to be your little secret...




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Old 03-17-2010, 10:58 AM   #27
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You can usually spot those cougar tracks easy..... I used to hunt them all the time back when I was single. At one time the sky lounge in Houston had a decent supply .
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:03 AM   #28
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I know they are there and am very curious why there has not been one captured on a trail camera in East Texas yet. I can understand completely why you guys are skeptical and I would be too if the roles were rversed.

Had it not been for that fateful hour, I mean 15 seconds, I would be poking fun myself.
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:09 AM   #29
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I know they are there and am very curious why there has not been one captured on a trail camera in East Texas yet. I can understand completely why you guys are skeptical and I would be too if the roles were rversed.

Had it not been for that fateful hour, I mean 15 seconds, I would be poking fun myself.


They HAVE been captured on game cams in East Texas. I will try to contact some of the members on my old lease and see if I can get ahold of a pic or two. Not only that, but my old lease manager killed one.

I didn't realize that so many folks weren't aware that they exist all over Texas. Obviously, the population is small and their range is huge, but they are definitely here.




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Old 03-17-2010, 11:21 AM   #30
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Confirmed cougar fatalities in East Texas since 1990 as reported by TP&W: 11.




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Old 03-17-2010, 11:26 AM   #31
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I'm sure there have been some caught on camera but the guy that stoled the camera cant show them for fear of getting caught!
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:32 AM   #32
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I have not seen one, but heard them before at night and that scream is something you won't soon forget. To the naysayers, just because you have not seen them dosen't make it not true.
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:37 AM   #33
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Confirmed cougar fatalities in East Texas since 1990 as reported by TP&W: 11.




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i cant look at cougar websites while at work.
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:42 AM   #34
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The black ones always run in pairs!
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:43 AM   #35
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I heard one several years ago (real close) that scared the crap out of me even with a rifle in hand. Thought my buds were playing a joke. Same time calf and goats were mauled in several mile radius.

Now as for up close encounters...this past year hunting New Mexico I walked up on a large one....gulp, 18 yards and arrow nocked looking eye to eye for a few seconds thinking...I can put that arrow in his neck but will he be on me before I get drawn back? He finally turned and slithered off. I had to go in his direction to get back to the truck that evening and the rest of the hunt (in the rain) I kept my head spinning making sure I was not the hunted.
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:58 AM   #36
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Confirmed cougar fatalities in East Texas since 1990 as reported by TP&W: 11.




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If I was a cougar.. I would be living down there in south florida.. prolly on the beach..
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Confirmed cougar fatalities in East Texas since 1990 as reported by TP&W: 11.




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Thanks, BR, that is great info and should clear up any skepticism about the occasional sightings, I know good and well I saw one. I still wish I could see a trail cam pic from our area. I could have had a VERY RARE confirmed Polk County Mountain Lion kill if I wasn't such a pansy, what a pity! I am so ashamed! I still remember not wanting to turn around to check my back trail for fear I would lose speed!

I heard there range is like 90 miles, could be why they are so scarce, just not enough room for em.
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Well, allow me to retort...

Who needs pictures when there is this website with the little dots on a map
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Well, allow me to retort...

Who needs pictures when there is this website with the little dots on a map



So the fact that TP&W has reported 11 cougars that were either ran over or shot in East Texas since 1990 is not evidence enough for you?

Do you have a picture of God? I just can't buy into all of the hype without seeing Him for myself...



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So the fact that TP&W has reported 11 cougars that were either ran over or shot in East Texas since 1990 is not evidence enough for you?

Do you have a picture of God? I just can't buy into all of the hype without seeing Him for myself...



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Hallelujah to that...
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Old 03-17-2010, 02:16 PM   #41
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Hallelujah to that...

Hahaha! Just messin' with ya'. I could really care less who believes what about anything. But in all seriousness, seeing as how you are in Houston I am sure that you are familiar with Chester Moore and would consider him trustworty. A quick google search and you can find his first hand account of encountering a cougar in Southeast Texas.



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Old 03-17-2010, 02:24 PM   #42
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Nah, I don't know who Chester Moore is but I do wanna see any and all proof (pictures, videos, carcass, etc) of "big cats" from East Texas. I'm not saying they don't exist there...yes I am.
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Me and the brother-in-law ran into one south of Coleman. We were out just walking the fringes of the property. The back property line has a creek with quite a few young mesquites along the bank and a 10 acre field on the other side of the trees. We were in the field walking the edge of the trees when a large black cat stood up 20 yards in front of us and took off walking left to right into the 3 foot tall grass. We both looked at each other and spouted the same words simultaneously "Was that what I thought it was?"

This is the same creek I let my then 6 and 8 year old kids walk up and down.

We went to the agricultural office the next day and talked to the biologist about it. He said that people would be surprised at just how many there were wondering around.
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.....when a large black cat stood up 20 yards in front of us and took off walking left to right into the 3 foot tall grass.

Here we go!!!
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He said that people would be surprised at just how many there were wondering around.


I would be surprised if there are more than 0...
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Old 03-17-2010, 03:24 PM   #46
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I found one and somebody had a camera! I think it was spotted in Palestine or maybe Tyler. Now maybe you will believe them dcrow. Golly Gee youre hard to convince.
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There ain't any black ones, but you are kidding yourself if you think that there are no mt. lions in East Tx.
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Old 03-17-2010, 03:47 PM   #49
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Don't worry about the facts Redneck Archer. These guys are only interested in the kind of games my 14 year old plays.
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Old 03-17-2010, 03:55 PM   #50
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I was hunting in Jefferson on the Cypress River about 10 years ago...had a big cat at 25 yards with my bow in hand...I'm a lefty and he came in on my left so it was an awkward shot to begin with. I was in a tree stand and got about half draw on him when my elbow hit the tree as I pulled back and knocked some bark off & spooked him. I'm still ****** about that morning, cuz a lot of people don't seem to believe they are out there....

would have made a nice mount...but all I got out of it was a story, that people give me ya right looks when I tell it...
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