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Old 02-05-2010, 09:45 AM   #1
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I thought about how/if I would tell this story, all night. This post is not a thread to bash anyone, but hopefully will help some of you that may be shopping for a taxidermist now or sometime in the future.

Last night, I was at my woodshop, trying to get caught up on some pedestal orders. I've met my "neighbor" and he was there too, last night. After about 30 minutes of cutting, a strange guy popped into my door. He introduced himself and told me that he was there with my neighbor and apparently, the neighbor had told him what I was doing making all that racket. He proceded to tell me about a taxidermist that he found (I don't remember the city) that was doing shoulder mounts for $350. He had shot a bobcat (he showed me a picture of the cat and I will tell you that this was a bobcat of a lifetime; HUGE and beautiful markings, and was shopping around for a taxidermist when he found this $350 guy. He also does lifesize bobcats for $350. This guy seemed like he'd struck gold he was so happy. He had even taken pictures in the taxidermist's shop and pointed out a shoulder mounted deer that was done in THREE days! He explained that this guy used a process that he had learned from a "long time" taxidermist and the skin was like a latex glove when it went on the manakin and he used glue and everything.

He gave me the taxidermist's card which had a website on it. When I got home, I had to take a look at these $350 shoulder mounts and lifesize bobcats. Here are some cropped pictures. After each picture, I'm going to tell you the major things that even an untrained eye should see.

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Notice wavy edge on the ear?
Notice the big black eye booger in front of the eye?
Notice the stovepipe looking ear butt?
Notice the dark nostril interior?
Notice the dark black lip line?

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Notice the "bad hair day" look?
Notice the big round eyes?
Notice the plastic looking nose?
Notice the round nostrils, again with a black interior?

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Notice the crinkled up ear again?
Notice the super black ear interior?
Notice the squinty football shaped eyes?
Notice the super black nose, again with a black interior?
Notice the hair standing up on the back of the neck?

This last one is something that you'll most likely never see in a showroom area of a shop, but I wanted to explain what's going on and why it's not good.
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This is a picture from a step-by-step section on the site. In this picture, he's adding bondo to an ear, which is a common way to form/reconstruct an ear. What I want you to see is the pinkish color of the skin along with the rough, fatty texture of the skin. The process he's using doesn't require the skin to be tanned but rather just drying it out with a powder (dry preservative) that's applied to the flesh side of the cape before it's put on the manakin. This skin was rough fleshed only. That means that he just got the big chunks of red meat off the skin. Proper skin prep and tanning will yeild a much different looking skin; one that's white or tan (depending on the tanning process) and has a nice smooth appearance with no globs of fat or thick looking skin. The thicker the skin, the more it will shrink when it dries, causeing the details of the mount to "pull loose". This could be as simple as the muscle detail pulling away from the manakin all the way to the lips pulling out of the mouth to the eyelids separating from the glass eyeball. All these problems are evident in the pictures above.


The point? Spend some time looking at the work your taxidermist has in his shop/showroom. Even the untrained eye can pick out major flaws in a mount.

Again, this thread was intended to be a quick educational presentation and for that reason, I will not give out the name of this taxidermist, so please don't ask. If you are the taxidermist that did these animals, please remember that I am not trying to bash you. Don't be offended.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:51 AM   #2
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Good post Taxi. Thanks for the info & heads up.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:52 AM   #3
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Thanks for the post Kevin. I still need to get out to your place and check your work out.

Whatcha got going on this weekend?
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:52 AM   #4
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Good stuff. Thanks Kevin!
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:55 AM   #5
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I didn't think a shoulder mount could be done in 3 days? I'll stick to my guy. He's slow but his work is good.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:55 AM   #6
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Good stuff! (the info, not the work)

Hope this doesn't end badly.......
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:00 AM   #7
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Good Post !
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:03 AM   #8
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Great info Kevin.

Somewhere, there's a "$350 guy" who does quality work. But, good luck finding him/her.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:04 AM   #9
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Thanks for the Info. IMO the work should be judged by reputation, advice, information (like posted here) and the work the Taxi has in his shop. Cheapest is never always best in honoring your trophy of a lifetime. If he's good enough to spend the money on a mount, find the best you can.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:06 AM   #10
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thanks bubba
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:11 AM   #11
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GREAT post Kevin, Ive wanted to do one like this but have not had the time...Again great post.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:12 AM   #12
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Thanks for the info and heads up.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:12 AM   #13
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Josh, why don't you post some pictures of a GOOD whitetail, bobcat and oryx mount?


Free plug for ya, buddy!

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Old 02-05-2010, 10:13 AM   #14
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Great information,Kevin! Sounds like you should make this a monthly report..."What is wrong with this Mount?" by Texastaxi.
By the way nice avatar but I still miss the red and black hat.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:13 AM   #15
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That is one of the best posts in a long time. it always puzzles me when someone tells me I am crazy to wait 9 months to a year for taxi work when "their guy" can do it in just a few short days or weeks. It is almost impossible to tell them what is going on with their mount and what is going to happen when they get it on the wall. Maybe they will live and learn.

Thanks Texastaxi. This needs to have a sticky beside it so everyone can read it.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:16 AM   #16
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Great post Kevin. If Someone is going to spend all the money to hunt and all the time that is put into it just to save a few dollars on the taxidermy then they deserve the imminent future of bad work. If you can't afford to mount it properly just do a European mount and save some money up and have it mounted in the future.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:19 AM   #17
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Thank you very much for the info Texastaxi! We need more info like this.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:22 AM   #18
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Its funny this has been posted as this year my wife's boss had gone on the typical corporate hunting trip up in the N East and shot an Elk. I kid you not they had this thing mounted and drove it down here in less than 2 months...The mount reminded me of one you would find in an old county store, straigt on and like a kid painted it. They had also done some replacement to broken tines and it was marginal but I guess as long as the hunter (questionable on the use of hunter) is happy. My wife said we might have to store it for him at our house and I quickly responded with...that would not be allowed to be hung next to anything in my house. Taxi's are amazing at what they can do and should be paid accordingly Thanks for the great post.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:27 AM   #19
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These pictures aren't taken at the same angle, but the differences should be blatantly obvious. The deer on the bottom was done by our resident taxidermy sponsor, Josh (roosterpt1).

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Old 02-05-2010, 10:28 AM   #20
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That is one of the best posts in a long time. it always puzzles me when someone tells me I am crazy to wait 9 months to a year for taxi work when "their guy" can do it in just a few short days or weeks. It is almost impossible to tell them what is going on with their mount and what is going to happen when they get it on the wall. Maybe they will live and learn.

Thanks Texastaxi. This needs to have a sticky beside it so everyone can read it.
My thoughts.

Thanks for the post.

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Old 02-05-2010, 10:29 AM   #21
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The top deers mama sure must have pulled on his ears a lot!!
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:31 AM   #22
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Great information, Kevin. One other point on the hide tanning is that you are alot more likely to get bugs on a cape that is rough fleshed and pickled as opposed to properly tanned hides. If the bugs do occur you are very likely to lose your whole mount and others around it.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:33 AM   #23
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here is more of a profile,Kevin chop it up if you want
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:33 AM   #24
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Great thread Kevin! Should save a lot of future heartaches for some of our TBH family.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:37 AM   #25
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3 days??
Hell, I am happy if I get stuff back inside of a year.
3 days seems crazy!
For starters a good taxidermist will have a lot of heads to get to before yours if he does quality work. Then if he is sending them to get tanned, he may wait until he has several skins ready to go to save on shipping, then turn around time at the tannery, then wherever your place in line falls, then mounting, then drying, then painting, then touch up...how in the heck can ANYONE do all tha in 3 days??
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Here's Josh's deer in a similar position, again Josh's is the bottom one.

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Old 02-05-2010, 10:41 AM   #27
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The only deer I have ever seen with a red tinted noise came from Mexico
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:44 AM   #28
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I reallly appreciate the information. I learned something today. I will take a closer look at some of the mounts I encounter.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:48 AM   #29
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great job on this post.....it is truly amazing the difference in quality between those when you see them side by side.

the pedestal mount is gorgeous.....someday I will have a deer worthy of doing a pedestal for.
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Rooster, that is a very, very nice mount. Kudos on that one.
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The only deer I have ever seen with a red tinted noise came from Mexico
I've seen them come from any area ... just like people with blonde hair.

On the other hand, I've never seen ANY deer with a black nose.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:56 AM   #32
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Good post and good info.
However, I don't think that you can accurately judge a taxi's work based on price. You can judge it on time and previous work, but not on price alone. I'm sure there are some expensive and very bad taxis in the world just like there are those guys that like doing it, that are excellent at it, and who don't charge an arm and a leg.

Just my .02
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:56 AM   #33
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very good thread... There are alot of bad taxidermist out there, and it really hurts when you get burned by one. Luckily I have already made that mistake but hopefully this thread will save some one elses trophy of a lifetime.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:00 AM   #34
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Dang That's a good looking buck Josh.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:02 AM   #35
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Congrats to you again Clint... That deer is amazing and a great way to show him off with Rooster's unbelievable skills!
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:03 AM   #36
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Josh forgot the eye boogers......

BTW, passed Rooster's shop last weekend --- really wanted to stop in, but just didn't have enough time -- maybe next time.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:03 AM   #37
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Good post Kevin. I am amazed at what some taxis these days get away with and still walk away with a happy customer. I have seen it more in waterfowl than deer but then again, I have several times the waterfowl mounts as deer mounts and have been around a taxi that showed me what to look for much like you have provided us with today. I have seen some ducks that looked like they've had their neck rung or scraped off the front bumper of a car before they were stuck on the wall.... I understand everybody has differing opinions on how something should look and everybody does things a little bit different. But some of this stuff should almost be against the law.....lol...

Again good post.

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I've seen them come from any area ... just like people with blonde hair.

On the other hand, I've never seen ANY deer with a black nose.


Can you expound on this Kevin?....What color are you calling it?

I am just trying to learn here....but I go back and look at some of my TC pics and several of my deer in West Texas do have a black nose.....and some even go very dark into the nostrils.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:25 AM   #39
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Jason,
It just depends on the deer. Some deer will have a really dark nose, but never black, God didn't make black nosed deer! And some deer will have a really fleshy undertone on their nose. The ones with the fleshy undertone will usually have a greyish, chocolatey nose. Pictures, especially trail cam pics, don't normally show this level of detail. Next time you're sitting in a stand, use your binoculars to look at the actual colors around a deer's eyes and nose. You'll be surprised what you see.

That fleshy undertone is one of the hardest things (for me) to reproduce on a mount. IMO, Josh did an outstanding job on that nose and I know for a fact that it will look even better in person; if you're not a professional or semi-professional photographer it is almost impossible to capture the depth of the nose colors in a picture. So, if the picture looks that good, the mount will look even better.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:30 AM   #40
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I don't think you did any bashing. You didn't mention names or say how much he sucked. You simply showed things an educated consumer should look for, and provided a valuable mini-education. Well done and thank you.
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Here are a couple of the pics that are closeups....seems some deer have darker insides that others..albeit probably not jet black like those above....and like you said these are tc pics

I guess for somebody that sits right up on a mount to look at it, jet black might be a little much but at a distance like up on a wall it would be hard to distinguish at least for my blind butt... A pedestal would be a different story no doubt.

Looking at the mounts I got back last year, the nose is a little more "grayer" than I thought and the insides of the nose are not black although not as "flesh colored" as Roosters...... I would have never been able to tell without getting up on a ladder to view though....of course I'm not a taxi either. Good info to have for those looking at a new taxi....I know I'll be looking a little more closer with the binos this year
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I knew the site where this picture is posted, so it was easy to find.
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Not knocking your trail cam, Jason, but those pictures really do suck for showing the colors/detail.

Can you see the fleshy colors in the lip of that deer? The same colors are on the top lip and the underside of the nose as well, even though you can't tell it in the picture. You really do need to see live deer, in person, to appreciate God's color pallete on a whitetail.
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Excellent post.

One thing I've noticed with cats is that they're always mounted with slits for eyes. If you do a google images search of bobcats, you see a lot of round eyes.

Can anyone clear this up?

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Something I have never understood.....

Why "most" deer hunters will be more than eager to spend hundreds to thousands on a gun/bow, thousands on a lease, hundreds on a feeder, several hundred on corn and protein, gas to and from lease, sometimes guide and trophy fees......and then look for a "good deal" on the product of their time and money?
Duck hunters are even worse, we will buy any and every gimmick out their, through thousands at a gun we dont need, $12-$35 a box on shells, thousands on a boat, and then look for a guy to do a $50 duck mount and find a "dog" (most important tool one can own) at a "great price".

I know money is an issue to most (me included) its just odd when you stand back and think about it.

Great post, Thanks
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http://www.agarman.dial.pipex.com/bco/fact4.htm

I guess I just answered my own question. I still prefer round over the the big slits, though.
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Excellent post.

One thing I've noticed with cats is that they're always mounted with slits for eyes. If you do a google images search of bobcats, you see a lot of round eyes.

Can anyone clear this up?
Are you speaking of the pupil?

A bobcat's pupil works just like your pupil. When you're in a darker area, your pupil opens up. When you're in a brighter area, your pupil closes. Only a cat's pupil doesn't stay round like yours does. When it closes, it's round ... when it's open, it's like a vertical stretched out football.

Is that the answer you were looking for?
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Great Post Kevin
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Low Fence ... you "get it"!
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I'm no photographer so pictures arn't my thing. The flash really makes things apprear much "brighter" than they actually look.
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:01 PM   #50
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This is an awesome post. The details you look for are incredible and things I would not have thought about.

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Excellent post.

One thing I've noticed with cats is that they're always mounted with slits for eyes. If you do a google images search of bobcats, you see a lot of round eyes.

Can anyone clear this up?

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I guess I would say the majority of bobcat mounts I've seen have the eyes too open and too round so they have an unrealistic "deer in the headlights" look. The ones that look more realistic seem to be open, but slightly relaxed. The other thing I think I see is not enough relief in the face, that the face is too flat from forehead to nose?

Good points - I'm starting to see with a completely different set of eyes now!
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