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Old 11-29-2009, 08:37 PM   #1
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I have been there 3 times now and have not seen a shooter buck. No one in the ranch with me has taken a shooter buck. I was wondering if anyone else has been to this ranch? What there hunt was like? I seen lots of deer and small bucks just no big ones.
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:26 PM   #2
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I got the Axis buck in my avatar there last year 11/1/08. Didnt shoot a WT but could have i saw alot of deer just not what i was after. I hunted last weekend there on the Lee ranch & saw alot of bucks but was sitting with my son wanting him to get one , we videoed some shooters but did not get one. A friend of mine shot a 120 1/4 " 8 pt barly made it .
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:27 PM   #3
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I got the Axis buck in my avatar there last year 11/1/08. Didnt shoot a WT but could have i saw alot of deer just not what i was after. I hunted last weekend there on the Lee ranch & saw alot of bucks but was sitting with my son wanting him to get one , we videoed some shooters but did not get one. A friend of mine shot a 120 1/4 " 8 pt barly made it .
That is what im saying i dont think there is alot of shooter bucks there. Like you said it barly made it. The price is good but i think they should lower the min inch on the bucks.
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Old 11-30-2009, 06:35 AM   #4
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I think they are trying to grow them bigger so they will have better deer for thier costumers
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:37 AM   #5
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Ive been once with no shooters seen or killed by the entire group of 12.
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Old 11-30-2009, 10:36 AM   #6
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I've seen dozens of TBH'ers go there (including myself and and another TBH'er). Have yet to see an LDP come back.
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:29 PM   #7
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The ranch I hunt borders the north end of the north ranch. We don't shot any thing under 130 for the most part.. Have yet to go out this year and not see a deer over 120. There are some great deer at HOT. I have seen a few 150-160 deer crossing the fence and lots of 125-130in deer. Its bowhunting... not rifle hunting. Kevin's deer will only get better. Most mature bucks that get pressured don't and won't come to corn unless they are paired up with a doe. The big bucks are there.
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The ranch I hunt borders the north end of the north ranch. We don't shot any thing under 130 for the most part.. Have yet to go out this year and not see a deer over 120. There are some great deer at HOT. I have seen a few 150-160 deer crossing the fence and lots of 125-130in deer. Its bowhunting... not rifle hunting. Kevin's deer will only get better. Most mature bucks that get pressured don't and won't come to corn unless they are paired up with a doe. The big bucks are there.
I agree completely!
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:12 PM   #9
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I am going december 10th for my first time. Both me and my dad are going. Anyone have any tips or comments. I heard that if the deer is over 4.5 that he is considered a shooter even if he doesn't meet the min.
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I've seen dozens of TBH'ers go there (including myself and and another TBH'er). Have yet to see an LDP come back.
What is TBH'ers? What is LDP? I am new to this site
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Old 12-01-2009, 02:09 PM   #11
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What is TBH'ers? What is LDP? I am new to this site
TBH'ers- people of this site
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Old 12-01-2009, 02:16 PM   #12
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The ranch I hunt borders the north end of the north ranch. We don't shot any thing under 130 for the most part.. Have yet to go out this year and not see a deer over 120. There are some great deer at HOT. I have seen a few 150-160 deer crossing the fence and lots of 125-130in deer. Its bowhunting... not rifle hunting. Kevin's deer will only get better. Most mature bucks that get pressured don't and won't come to corn unless they are paired up with a doe. The big bucks are there.
So your saying you see a shooter buck everytime you go out? If there was that many bucks there would have been more shooters taken. There has only been 7 taken this year. Couple of those dont even look like they make the 120 mark. I want to know of those 7 how many of them were guided hunts? How many of the shooter bucks that they take every year our guided hunts? They have had the lease for 5 years now and its still not kicking out shooter bucks they way it should.
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Old 12-01-2009, 02:18 PM   #13
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I am going december 10th for my first time. Both me and my dad are going. Anyone have any tips or comments. I heard that if the deer is over 4.5 that he is considered a shooter even if he doesn't meet the min.
Not any more they changed that rule. If he does not score you pay 750. Dont shoot a 10 point either that will cost you 1500 now.
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I've seen dozens of TBH'ers go there (including myself and and another TBH'er). Have yet to see an LDP come back.
Thanks for the info how many times have you been there?
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:06 PM   #15
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So your saying you see a shooter buck everytime you go out? If there was that many bucks there would have been more shooters taken. There has only been 7 taken this year. Couple of those dont even look like they make the 120 mark. I want to know of those 7 how many of them were guided hunts? How many of the shooter bucks that they take every year our guided hunts? They have had the lease for 5 years now and its still not kicking out shooter bucks they way it should.
Yes I'm saying we see a shooter via HOT rules **** near everytime we go out. The ranch where I hunt, your selling your self short on anything under 130 and we usually hold out for 140+. The 3.5 year old deer typically are your 115-125 range, 4.5 typically the 120-130 range and the 5.5 plus 130+. I'm the only one that bow hunts on the ranch. Everyone else rifle hunts

ocassionally we get a few mature 5.5 year old 8's that will not break 120 but rarely.

the mature bucks we see will not come to corn..PERIOD.. They only time they are anywhere close to corn is when paired with a doe and they are guarding her.

As far as shooters on HOT... I think Kevin's rules are soft... of the ones that are shot that are under are mostly young deer... every year if those deer wheren't shot then that would be even more mature deer next year(so yes I think he should continue to raise the penelty). Even with his fines he is still cheaper then 99 percent of the Bow hunts out there for comparable animals

Again your trying to compare Gun success rates to bow success rates. If you want a 100 percent opportunity on a 130 class bow buck then go a head and fork out $2500 and be caped on how big you can shoot on a HF place

I like kevin operation, he is very fair in fact to fair. Kevin is about a straight shooting as there is.

And if you think for a minute anyone else is going to jump up and down and tell you all about the shooters they saw on a public forum then you just under estimated your fellow man. Kevin has a lot of repeat customers that would just assume everyone thought the same thing about HOT no shooters, LOL

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Old 12-01-2009, 11:16 PM   #16
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Not any more they changed that rule. If he does not score you pay 750. Dont shoot a 10 point either that will cost you 1500 now.
what do you mean a 10 point cost 1500? it said nothing about that?
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what do you mean a 10 point cost 1500? it said nothing about that?

if its under the min score its a fine of 1500.

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Old 12-02-2009, 10:13 AM   #18
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what do you mean a 10 point cost 1500? it said nothing about that?
From the HOT site:

7. OnlyTrophy Bucks meeting the minimum requirements are allowed to be taken.
(9 point at 120" minimum, 10 point at 125" minimum.)
A Fine of $750 for any 9 point buck taken that does not meet the above minimum requirement.
A Fine of $1500 for any 10 point buck taken that does not meet the above minimum requirement.
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Old 12-02-2009, 12:47 PM   #19
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I've hunted HOT twice. It's a great place with great people running it. It is what it is, a good chance at a shooter buck for a fair price. I agree with previous post that to be a shooter it will be around 4.5 years old and that's a wise old deer that's hard to get into your corn.

It's a hard, though, challenging hunt with a reasonable opportunity at a P&Y deer which is why people return year after year.
Bigbuckhunter: My question to you would be how you hunted, tree or tent blind. Youíve got to be on good trails and brush in beyond belief then brush in some more. That was my downfall this year as I hit a branch and watched my arrow sail over the back of a great looking 8.
Thatís bow hunting, no one to blame.


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Old 12-03-2009, 11:00 PM   #20
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[quote=Slick8;2056419]I've hunted HOT twice. It's a great place with great people running it. It is what it is, a good chance at a shooter buck for a fair price. I agree with previous post that to be a shooter it will be around 4.5 years old and that's a wise old deer that's hard to get into your corn.

It's a hard, though, challenging hunt with a reasonable opportunity at a P&Y deer which is why people return year after year.
Bigbuckhunter: My question to you would be how you hunted, tree or tent blind. Youíve got to be on good trails and brush in beyond belief then brush in some more. That was my downfall this year as I hit a branch and watched my arrow sail over the back of a great looking 8.
Thatís bow hunting, no one to blame.

I was hunting in a double bull and i brush it in were other hunters would walk by it. I see deer when i was hunting there just never any big bucks. All of the guys that are there with me dont see the big bucks. No one has taken a big buck while i was there. That is 20-25 huntere that are on both ranches on those hunts. So thats 60-75 hunters that did not shoot a big buck those are not good numbers. All of the guys that i have talked to have not been there when someone else has shot one either. The only group i talked to said they have been there twice when film crews were there and kevin put them in his blind they took mid 120s bucks. Like i said HOW MANY OF THE DEER TAKEN THERE ARE NOT GUIDED HUNTS?
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:14 AM   #21
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well for 650, its not a bad deal regardless. The big mature bucks anywhere will not just come around all the time. You have to hunt hard to get one where ever you are with a bow. Im looking to have a great time whether I harvest a trophy or not. However, i will put all my efforts in to do so
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:38 PM   #22
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well for 650, its not a bad deal regardless. The big mature bucks anywhere will not just come around all the time. You have to hunt hard to get one where ever you are with a bow. Im looking to have a great time whether I harvest a trophy or not. However, i will put all my efforts in to do so
Well you will have to let me know how you do and what you think of your hunt.
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:16 PM   #23
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:21 PM   #24
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I hope that you have success in your hunt on Kevin's place!
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:48 PM   #25
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I've hunted there twice and took a doe both times. I saw one or two shooters but they were too far out for a shot. Both times I was there a nice shooter buck was taken by one of the hunters & there were a few misses.... Overall, our party had a good time & I think it is a great piece of property that gives you a chance for a P&Y animal. Hopefully they will stop raising the prices every year though :/
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:24 PM   #26
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How long has HOT been in operation
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:15 PM   #27
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I think this is their 6th. year at the Price ranch and 2nd at the Lee, which just doubled in lease size.
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:39 PM   #28
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Maybe they are just building a quality deer herd for some high dollar
rifle hunts in the future at the expense of bowhunters. Do they run corn feeders during the hunting season ?

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Old 12-06-2009, 05:20 PM   #29
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they have feeders but you have to be at least 150yds from feeders, or it was that way last year. i enjoyed my hunt and would go back.
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Old 12-19-2009, 03:44 PM   #30
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:34 PM   #31
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my dad saw tons of deer including 3 shooters. He had one deer jump his string and he missed it. I saw one buck that was border line, at about 115 8 point. I didn't see a single deer my first 2 hunts, but my dad saw his in the first 2 hunts. Then i started seeing quite a few deer at my blind while he saw less at his. Overall kevin and craig are great people and run a good operation. I think we are going back next year.
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Old 12-27-2009, 10:38 PM   #32
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Yall have any pics of the deer and terrain?
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Old 01-05-2010, 12:23 PM   #33
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Have seen some good deer there............they do feed year round to answer that question. We just booked again yesterday for this coming year. Its just hit and miss in October due to the acorn crop, the first few weeks in November have been good, especially if the acorns are gone.........if not, just cross your fingers that a shooter comes in to the corn.............that seems to be the only issue. But you will always see good deer, its just having lady luck on your side and having them come into your set up
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Old 01-29-2010, 11:18 PM   #34
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This place sounds great, I might have to try it.
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Old 01-29-2010, 11:53 PM   #35
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I hunted with Kevin several years ago and would go back, I saw several shooter bucks and lots of deer. My only problem is the rules seem to change depending on who you are, it's their ranch and can do it if they want to but it seemed a little unfair. I have a very good or in their case a bad story but I will keep it to myself and like I said I would go back.
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:32 AM   #36
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Some of the deer on there website harvest pics dont look to score more than high 90's to low 100's.Im thinking about going this year,I heard that when the rut is on all the big boys respond really well to rattling.If I get one into the danger zone then they have two options....DUCK...or BLEED.lol
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Old 06-08-2010, 11:29 PM   #37
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I've hunted there 8 times in the last two seasons.I have hunted bow only for last 18yrs all over the world.I will have to say out of all places I've been I enjoy hunting here the most.I have seen over 30 shooters in those 8 hunts and have hunted in several pastures on both ranches(Lee and Price). I have to say that I havn't dealt with a more straight guy than Kevin.I typically have my wife,son, and daughter when I go.I will add I have to work my butt off to get us each a set up done in a 5 hour period.My daughter took her first deer there in 08.It was a doe n I hunted with her 4 of the 5 hunts we had to hunt that trip.I rarely ever hunt on the Sunday evening because I have to drive back here to Louisiana for work on Monday.My son killed his first trophy buck in 09 which scored 124".He aged at 3 1/2 yr of age.My wife has cost me a couple fines but hell she too took her first and second buck at HOT with a bow.She should have 2 over 120 and 1 over 135 but being a new hunter she got buck fever on several of our hunts.I can go there and stack 120+ bucks up on either the Lee or the Price.I brought a group of 6 in October of 09.Three of those 6 are on his website.I'm not looking to shoot a 120" deer so I pass them on a regular basis.My goal is for me,my family and my friends to have an enjoyable hunt and have never left disappointed.
I have met a lot of interesting people on my hunts there.The one thing that I have learned among these hunters we all share the same passion and sometimes those of us that think they are the great white hunter may need to try a different tactic.With that being said what I suggest is if you never hunted at this ranch go there with an open mind and take the suggestions that Kevin gives and have yourself a successful hunt.As mentioned by one of the other guys that posted above,a mature buck is very reluctant to a corn pile.If he has made it to be 3 1/2yr old he's not coming run up to the set up that you can see from 50yrds away,nor the set up that the hunter set up that's too close to his bedding area.Find a good trail that has good buck sign that is easiest to get to.Less at this ranch will produce more almost every time.We as hunter seem to always enter with the mentality of "I'm good at scouting and i'm going to walk this whole area and find the best dam spot there is". Well guys that is the best thing to do at your personal lease in the spring but I promise you it will cost you 8 out of 10 times at this ranch. I have a friend that is on website from 09 with two kills.1 is 126" and other is 120 3/8". He killed both deer out of set ups that were found and set up in less than one hour each.This guy also had never hunted with a minimum measurement rule in affect.The first morning of his hunt he took a pic of a deer that was over 130 and saw him on two more occasions in 3 days but as he was a mature buck he didnt come back to corn.What I'm saying guys is for $650.00 you won't find a comparable hunt.However if you have please let me know where I need to call.I am no different than anyone else,I had never met Kevin before my first hunt in 08 and I was a little skeptical because it sounded too good to be true but I was proud to admit I was wrong about that thought and hope all can go there and have as much fun as my family and I have thus far.
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:52 AM   #38
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Question ? If the HOT rules says (9 point @ 120" min & 10 point @ 125" min). Then why are most of the trophy pics of 8 pointers ?
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:18 AM   #39
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That's up to a 9 point at 120 inches. An 8 point is legal at 120 or above, for that matter I'm sure if a 6 made 120 he'd be legal.
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Ok that makes sense. Thank you for the info.
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Old 10-26-2010, 11:08 AM   #41
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There maybe only 7 pics showing, but there have more deer than that taken. I know because I was there that 3 of those pics were not guided hunts, not sure about the other ones.
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:43 PM   #42
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Any one go here this past weekend?? Me and my dad are heading out there for next weekend Nov.5-7
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:51 AM   #43
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:30 PM   #44
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Hey buddydeville, how about some LDP's from your trips to HOT.
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:44 PM   #45
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I wonder if kevin fined the mossy oak boys that shot those small bucks on his tv show deer thugs. Been there two years ago never saw any shooters, maybe its changed.
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Old 12-03-2010, 08:51 AM   #46
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Both myself and my wife took good deer at HOT this year. I got a 140 inch 8 pt , and she took her first buck bow kill, another 8pt, that scored 130. So the good deer are there. I saw a couple of deer that were upper 140, maybe 150 class, but as said in another post, they just didnt come into the setup. Stayed out a bit, but they will come during the rut when following does.................So HOT is a great place to hunt. Been the last 4 years and have had success nearly every year. You have to be smart on your set up. And the main thing is getting in without spooking deer, and then once your done hunting, GET out as quietly as possible. And set up according to where Kevin tells you, and with the right wind direction for that weekend...............I saw first hand the difference it makes on one of my wifes set up. Had to move her after first days hunt, and it was amazing the amount of deer she saw after that and was only about 100 yards away from first set up. Just move her on the opposite side of the ridge, after the wind had switched.
I personally like the first few weeks of October, and the 2nd and 3rd weekends of November...............Good luck to all the bowhunters who try Heart of Texas........its AWESOME
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Old 12-03-2010, 08:58 AM   #47
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Also, Buddydeville................you are so right on the fact, YOU CAN NOT walk around your whole pasture looking for your set up..............listen to kevin, find that spot, set up and get out.............I truely feel that is the mistake alot of people are making that arent seeing deer. They are looking and looking for "THE" spot, instead of getting between the bedding area and feeders as kevin states, and setting up, and getting out.
We have to remember, these deer get educated quick when you have people in every weekend. So the quicker and quiter you are getting in there, the better the odds
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Old 12-03-2010, 10:53 AM   #48
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Have you ever seen any exotics on there? I see on the website a few axis, are those just free-range that come through every now and then? Also are there very many hogs on the place? Thanks
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Old 12-03-2010, 12:38 PM   #49
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Trophyhunter67 did you get that deer in your profile picture off of HOT?
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:55 PM   #50
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Any one go here this past weekend?? Me and my dad are heading out there for next weekend Nov.5-7
How did you and your Dad do on the hunt?
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