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Old 10-26-2009, 06:51 PM   #1
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Default New pond leaking, how can we stop it?

My dad recently had an existing pond on their place dug bigger and deeper. The pond is currently about 60 yards longs, 30 yards wide, and about 12 feet deep in the center. Well after he pumped it full of water it started leaking. We aren't sure if it is leaking from the side, the bottom, or both places. Any recommendations on how to remedy this? Thanks!
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:22 PM   #2
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If it drains completely dry, put a liner in it. When it was dug deeper and expanded, disturbed existing silt at the bottom. Should seal back up at some point unless you got so deep you got into a totally different type of soil structure that is porous.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:29 PM   #3
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When it goes completely dry, line it about 8-12 inches thick with clay, spread and compacted.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:36 PM   #4
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Might have dug past a clay zone that it was originally in
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:39 PM   #5
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Drain it and disk in some bentonite,or as been said you have to line the side and bottom with clay. Don't give up just yet,the dirt will have to get saturated and the clays swell,this may be where your water loss is going.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:48 PM   #6
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x2 on the bentonite.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:07 PM   #7
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I think you can even try to drop bentonite in it with water and it will help. I would check with your county extension agent.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:39 PM   #8
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Thanks guys! I will let my dad know!
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:04 PM   #9
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get some drilling mud to put on it
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:29 PM   #10
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Bentonite is the way to go. It will swell up and seal it.
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:16 AM   #11
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ive heard ole timers say to start feeding your cows in the dry bottom and they will pack down the bottom and it will start holding water....that might be a cheap fix
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:23 AM   #12
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x2 on the bentonite.
X4
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:28 AM   #13
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what flurry said, move your round bale ring into the tank once it goes dry.
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:18 AM   #14
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I know a man who dug a tank, then lined it with construction plastic. You know, the thick heavy black rolls of plastic sheeting. He just overlapped the edges about a foot on all sides and then put dirt on top to hold it all down. Then he sprayed the dirt down and drove his tractor (Cat wheel loader) over it several times to pack the mud. That tank has held water when every other tank in the county was dry. Lots of moss and algae though, he needs ducks.
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:53 AM   #15
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ive heard ole timers say to start feeding your cows in the dry bottom and they will pack down the bottom and it will start holding water....that might be a cheap fix
Back in the day, up in west Texas.....they would dump out rock salt in the bottom of dry tanks in order to get the cattle in there to pack it down. I believe that was on the XIT.

I KNOW the bentonite will do it too. You can do it with water in it, but I understand it takes twice as much.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:24 PM   #16
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All great suggestions above. This probably isn't practical for you, but I know an old school hatchery manager that would seal up catfish ponds by feeding them more than the normal amounts and this would create a liner of catfish poo that would seal up the leaks.
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Old 10-27-2009, 04:21 PM   #17
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The cow thing works, my grandpa's tank would never hold water, so he fed his cows in there, now it holds water

how long has it been since the tank was dug-----i just dug a pond myself, it takes awhile for it to seal
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:19 PM   #18
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Cows or an alligator if too deep for the cows. Alligator likes to rub down across the bottom and will seal it.
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:36 AM   #19
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Cows or an alligator if too deep for the cows. Alligator likes to rub down across the bottom and will seal it.
I'd take my chances with cows first.
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:47 PM   #20
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Drain it and disk in some bentonite,or as been said you have to line the side and bottom with clay. Don't give up just yet,the dirt will have to get saturated and the clays swell,this may be where your water loss is going.
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:01 AM   #21
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Duct tape should fix your problem
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:39 AM   #22
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I know a guy who sells an industrial product to mines and farmers to stop leaking through the sides of canals through the levees. Something that makes the silt 'clog' up the little leaks, and meets environmental regs. PM me if nothing else works and I can track down Pete's phone #.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:45 PM   #23
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im havin the same problem
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:00 AM   #24
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ive heard ole timers say to start feeding your cows in the dry bottom and they will pack down the bottom and it will start holding water....that might be a cheap fix
X2... put some hay out there and the cow will compact it for ya... it works.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:50 PM   #25
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Billformsanjose, if you find the # I could use it too. We have a 4 acre pond that just started leaking 4" a day
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:01 PM   #26
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Did they core the dam? Could be your problem depending on where this pond is located...

Bentonite is **** expensive and to get enough in a 60x30x12 tank get ready to shell out some dough.. And its about 50/50 if its will seal in the long run..

Go to Pondboss.com and check out the search features on their forum. The guys that run that site know a thing or two about building ponds/lakes and the information is invaluable...Search Bentonite, and read all the failures before you go spending a ton of money on it..

I have just been through this, and I'm about to go with a liner. My pond is 18 feet deep 100 x 60.... Bentonite for my depth, wall size, total tank size is gonna be about 10,000 grand... I can get a clay liner installed for 1/5 that price..
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:28 PM   #27
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I sent DawgOnIt Pete's phone #. If he has something to help the problem please post here. I can then PM his phone # to others.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:21 AM   #28
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We have had more luck with bentonite by spreading it while there was water in the tank (pond), seems to go with the flow so-to-speak. Trying to spread it out over a large area of mud was much more difficult.
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:54 PM   #29
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Follow Bullydog's advice. Pondboss is the way to go.
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:59 PM   #30
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get some drilling mud to put on it
X2 for the drilling mud. Probably cheaper too.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:49 AM   #31
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Bentonite slurry "Drilling mud" in 40lb bags does the trick bud- Good luck!
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:45 PM   #32
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I sent DawgOnIt Pete's phone #. If he has something to help the problem please post here. I can then PM his phone # to others.

Did you ever connect with the guy Pete who's # I sent you?
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:22 PM   #33
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If you have any drilling rigs in your area, check at the rig when they dispose of the mud they have to pay for a place to put it. They may haul it to you for free.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:08 PM   #34
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Bubble Gum!
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:33 PM   #35
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I have a 2 acre pond 15 ft deep that leaks. I got prices to fix it that were way too expensive. My solution was to drill another well dedicated to the pond. On average it runs about 2 weeks per month and costs about $30/mo. Way, way cheaper.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:48 AM   #36
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I have a 2 acre pond 15 ft deep that leaks. I got prices to fix it that were way too expensive. My solution was to drill another well dedicated to the pond. On average it runs about 2 weeks per month and costs about $30/mo. Way, way cheaper.
Plus with the well, water in (well) and water out (by draining) makes for very good weed, alge control and fish growth.
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Old 11-19-2009, 01:48 PM   #37
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bentonite, cows, build a bonfire in it's (wait till it's dry), anything that will plug the cracks, maybe even som LCM material if you have any oilfield fluid company connections, disc it in and it should seal right up.

Also you didn't mention it but if there's trees around it they can drink a lot of water too.
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Old 11-19-2009, 01:50 PM   #38
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x2 on the drilling mud fix!!! make sure it is a water based mud though, a spud mud or surface hole mud would probably be safest.
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Old 11-19-2009, 02:12 PM   #39
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Bentonite clay will fix the problem. Bentonite is mined clay that has dried, once it gets wet it swells to about 10x is size. It can be found at companies like Baker Hughes in Dayton Tx.
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x2 on the bentonite and barite.
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this is very common because you disturbed the silt/clay layer that had settled on the bottom filling the voids and therefore sealing it. You can either let time and silt/clay runoff seal it back up or you can line the bottom with a clay like bentonite or use a plastic liner.
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