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    #61
    Originally posted by SwampRabbit View Post
    Actually, I think the quote comes from the Wand maker: " After all, He Who Must Not Be Named did great things – terrible, yes, but great"

    But I always find it interesting that a lot of villains are modeled after Hitler, including Voldemort from the books. A half breed, that wanted the world to only contain pure breeds, etc.

    And for the sanity of us all... OP, stop using the "not to be named adult" thing. Makes it painful to read. You could have just left it with "adult."
    What is sad is that HITLER had a grandparent or great grandparent that was Jewish.........ouch!!! guess he did not know his family tree.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Landrover View Post
      What is sad is that HITLER had a grandparent or great grandparent that was Jewish.........ouch!!! guess he did not know his family tree.
      He knew his family lineage, he just despised it.

      So, OP, how ya gonna handle this?

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        #63
        Originally posted by Playa View Post
        He knew his family lineage, he just despised it.

        So, OP, how ya gonna handle this?
        Wow......really sad when someone has self hatred.[emoji15] [emoji120]

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          #64
          Originally posted by Landrover View Post
          What is sad is that HITLER had a grandparent or great grandparent that was Jewish.........ouch!!! guess he did not know his family tree.
          He knew... and I am sure he resented it. It is always interesting that those who push ideals obsessively, don't actually resemble those ideals.

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            #65
            I've already had two meetings this school year regarding such lunacy. As a parent, you have to be vigilant and stomp out this garbage when it arises. If you don't, your kid will get Socialism 101. People, stand up for your kids and say something.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Gummi Bear View Post
              The history of humankind is the history of conflict. I once heard that in a lecture and it stuck with me.

              While all of those are truly atrocious, no single leader will equal Temujin (Genghis Khan) by the numbers. It is estimated that he is responsible for 40 million deaths. His campaigning changed the population of the planet, not just a country. It is said that one in 500 modern Chinese is a direct descendant of his. That is bananas when you think about it.

              Timur Lenk (who I know very little about) is said to be responsible for 17-20 million deaths

              All of WWII is estimated at 66 million dead

              Stalin is credited with 20 million

              Hitler 24 million dead




              Back to the OP - if you want to show your kid a series of leaders that expanded an empire with minimal bloodshed, look at Persia. Sure there was conflict, but most folks found it more profitable to join up. Dan Carlin did a fantastic podcast on this called Kings of Kings.


              "It has been my experience that folks who have no vices, have very few virtues" - Abraham Lincoln
              I believe that Temujin was actually Genghis Khan's finest archer. At least Bear Archery had a target recurve named that and it was the story they told at the time.

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                #67
                Temujin was his birth name, Genghis Khan was his title.




                "It has been my experience that folks who have no vices, have very few virtues" - Abraham Lincoln

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                  #68
                  Interesting stuff

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by texan4ut View Post
                    I had read an interesting article written by a Austrian citizen on how Hitler was able to take over their country without firing a shot. He simple led people to believe they would be much better off under Socialism. He promised many things free education, free food, better housing for free etc. then once he took control he began the slow destruction of the country my controlling what they read, mandatory service to the government etc. So in that regard yes he was a great leader just a very evil one.
                    Just to be clear, Hitler HATED socialism & Stalin / Russia...attacking them & declaring war on the U.S. at essentially the same time was one of the biggest military blunders of all times. Not debating the angle of Austria, just pointing out his politics.

                    Heck, both sides (US & Russia) decided fairly early on in the war not to even consider assassination as his micro-managing of the battlefield was an advantage for the allies...you have to wonder what europe would look like today if the guy simply knew when to stop. Like stated, he went full blown nuts towards the end.

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                      #70
                      Hitler was a great deceiver, he drove people to their grave with his deception. Fooled his countrymen into believing they could rule the world. Destroyed millions of lives. Pulled other countries into his conflict. Millions more perished, for what? His selfish dreams. Everything he attempted, he failed at it. A leader? I think not.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Artos View Post
                        Just to be clear, Hitler HATED socialism
                        Hitler hated communism as he details in mein Kampf, but he was a proponent of socialism. Albeit "nationalist" socialism rather than international socialism that was prevalent at the time (and persists today).

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by flywise View Post
                          Is it really leadership if the people you lead, follow you only because they fear you will kill them if they dont?


                          No, I agree with you.


                          It's the same reason that Trump calling Putin a great leader is nuts. Putin poisons and makes his political foes disappear. Leadership through fear and intimidation is not leadership at all!!!!!!

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