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Old 07-06-2018, 02:56 PM   #651
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Seems sketchy. Have you done this? Any idea where I could find something in writing on this?
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Old 07-06-2018, 02:58 PM   #652
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Old 07-06-2018, 02:59 PM   #653
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Seems sketchy. Have you done this? Any idea where I could find something in writing on this?
Sketchy?? I mean it is mexico.... i know a guy that took his sons like Shane said make sure scope is detached and separated from pcp
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Old 07-06-2018, 02:59 PM   #654
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Seems sketchy. Have you done this? Any idea where I could find something in writing on this?
Yes I've done it. Have a couple at the ranch now. The military has looked them over more than once. Airguns are legal, no paperwork needed.

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Old 07-06-2018, 03:00 PM   #655
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I was told the same thing by Humberto Gomez.


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Old 07-06-2018, 03:02 PM   #656
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We could wear the quail out from our porch with an air gun for dinner
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Old 07-06-2018, 03:04 PM   #657
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We could wear the quail out from our porch with an air gun for dinner


I have taken three at a time because I have 3 Boys. Take the scope off and keep the pellets separate, like in another bag or pocket. They donít like ammunition or broadheads with rifles or bows.


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Old 07-06-2018, 03:07 PM   #658
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We could wear the quail out from our porch with an air gun for dinner
They work awesome on Javis, you have to get close and hit them behind the shoulder though. I use a .22 Gamo, Bo actually put me on to this many years ago.

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Old 07-06-2018, 03:10 PM   #659
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Humberto is the law so if he says itís good....itís good
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Old 07-06-2018, 03:25 PM   #660
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Humberto is the law so if he says itís good....itís good
Very true. Iím gonna take mine down. .25 caliber at 1100fps. More deadly than a 22 ever dreamed to be at 1/4 the noise.
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Old 07-06-2018, 03:25 PM   #661
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Humberto is the law so if he says itís good....itís good


Heís never told me wrong, but itís still worth looking into.


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Old 07-06-2018, 03:27 PM   #662
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Very true. Iím gonna take mine down. .25 caliber at 1100fps. More deadly than a 22 ever dreamed to be at 1/4 the noise.
Interesting Iíll have to look into one of those!
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Old 07-06-2018, 03:37 PM   #663
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Very true. Iím gonna take mine down. .25 caliber at 1100fps. More deadly than a 22 ever dreamed to be at 1/4 the noise.
Cody what model is that?
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:31 PM   #664
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FX wildcat.
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Old 07-06-2018, 05:52 PM   #665
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As long as the air rifle is not CO2 powered or powered by a separate tank youíll have no problems. CO2 cartridges, or any compressed air for that matter, are no nos. Keep gun with scope on it and pellets in a separate bag. If you take scope off they can claim the scope is a firearm component and make you go back or confiscate it. Keep all together and ABSOLUTELY declare it. Youíll have zero problems.


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Old 07-07-2018, 05:04 AM   #666
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Old 07-08-2018, 08:33 AM   #667
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As long as the air rifle is not CO2 powered or powered by a separate tank youíll have no problems. CO2 cartridges, or any compressed air for that matter, are no nos. Keep gun with scope on it and pellets in a separate bag. If you take scope off they can claim the scope is a firearm component and make you go back or confiscate it. Keep all together and ABSOLUTELY declare it. Youíll have zero problems.


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Not Saying You are Wrong Buddy But, I was Told That They Do not want you to Travel with The scope on The rifle. I can See Keeping them together But, Was Told It was a Big Deal to remove the Scope.
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Got another 1.4Ē yesterday. So that brings my place up to 4.4Ē of rain since the 5th. Thank god!! Much needed!!


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Got another 1.4Ē yesterday. So that brings my place up to 4.4Ē of rain since the 5th. Thank god!! Much needed!!


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Old 07-08-2018, 04:37 PM   #670
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I don't think we've got spit off the pipeline......and it was dry two months ago.
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:46 PM   #671
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Old 07-10-2018, 07:11 PM   #672
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Any good growth lately I’m ready to dig my feet into some red dirt
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Old 07-10-2018, 07:14 PM   #673
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Cameras out last trip! We'll see!

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Old 07-10-2018, 07:21 PM   #674
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Iím definitely ready for some pics!
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:41 PM   #675
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Has anyone heard of this “mandatory” tourist visa? I’ve never heard of it in all my years, but someone just brought it to my attention..
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:51 PM   #676
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Has anyone heard of this “mandatory” tourist visa? I’ve never heard of it in all my years, but someone just brought it to my attention..

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"A tourist card, also called an FMM ("Forma Migratoria Mķltiple," previously referred to as an FMT), is a tourist permit that is required for all foreign citizen travelers to Mexico who will not be engaged in any type of remunerated work. Tourist cards may be valid for up to 180 days and allow the holder to remain in Mexico as a tourist for the allotted time. Be sure to hold on to your tourist card and keep it in a safe place, as you will need to hand it in when you are departing the country. Foreign nationals who will be working in Mexico are required to obtain a work visa from the National Immigration Institute (INM).
Border Zone

In the past, travelers who were remaining within the United States border zone for up to 72 hours did not need a tourist card. (The border zone, comprised of an area roughly 20 km into Mexico from the U.S. border and also included most of Baja California and the Sonora "free zone.") However, now the tourist card is required for all non-Mexican visitors to the country who will remain for fewer than six months.
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There is a fee of about $23 USD for a tourist card. If you are traveling by air or on a cruise, the fee for your tourist card is included in the cost of your trip, and you will be given the card to fill out. If you are traveling over land you can pick up a tourist card at your point of entry or from a Mexican consulate before your departure. In this case, you will need to make the payment for your tourist card at a bank after your arrival in Mexico.

Mexico's National Immigration Institute (INM) now allows travelers to apply for a tourist card online up to 7 days before entering Mexico. You can fill in the form and, if traveling by land, pay for the tourist card online. If you'll be traveling by air, the fee is included in your airplane ticket, so no need to pay again. Just remember that the tourist card must be stamped by an immigration official when you enter Mexico, otherwise, it is not valid. Apply for a tourist card online on the website of Mexico's National Immigration Institute: online FMM application.

Upon arrival in Mexico, you will present the filled-in tourist card to the immigration official who will stamp it and write in the number of days that you are allowed to stay in the country. The maximum is 180 days or 6 months, but the time actually given is at the discretion of the immigration official (often only 30 to 60 days are granted initially), for longer stays, the tourist card would need to be extended.

You should keep your tourist card in a safe place, for example, tucked into the pages of your passport. Upon leaving the country you must surrender your tourist card to immigration officials. If you do not have your tourist card, or if your tourist card is expired, you may be fined."


If you do not arrive in Mexico by airplane, and you intend to travel beyond the ~35km ‘free zone’, complete the FMM Visitor’s permit at your port of entry to Mexico and pay the fee separately. You’ll need to present this FMM at the inland immigration check-point you’ll pass when you travel beyond the ‘free zone’.

Summary: It says that if you are staying longer than 72 hours OR traveling more than 20 miles from the border, you are required to have a tourist Visa (Like when you fly into cancun and fill out the paper) that will last up to 6 months, and keep it with your Passport. They are ~$20 at border, or can do online, but has to be stamped at the border per this site.

It also appears that they will check you at the "checkpoints" for it, but if you don't pass a checkpoint then the only issue I see, reading the info and laws is that a cop could hassle you if your outside the 20 miles border zone.

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Old 07-12-2018, 01:42 AM   #677
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Summary: [/B]It says that if you are staying longer than 72 hours OR traveling more than 20 miles from the border, you are required to have a tourist Visa (Like when you fly into cancun and fill out the paper) that will last up to 6 months, and keep it with your Passport. They are ~$20 at border, or can do online, but has to be stamped at the border per this site.

It also appears that they will check you at the "checkpoints" for it, but if you don't pass a checkpoint then the only issue I see, reading the info and laws is that a cop could hassle you if your outside the 20 miles border zone.
Sounds like another tax. The part that bugs me the most is that the representative can make the duration whatever they want. Hopefully they just make them 6 months to match the gun permit.


On another note, does anybody know when the season dates are generally announced? I am guessing I will need to check angadiís Facebook page for updates....
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Old 07-12-2018, 07:30 AM   #678
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Putting cameras out next trip, hope they donít melt.

Has anyone felt with someone that has not got their guns out due to not being able to get back down to Mexico and it is much past their 6 month permit date?

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Old 07-12-2018, 07:48 AM   #679
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Putting cameras out next trip, hope they donít melt.

Has anyone felt with someone that has not got their guns out due to not being able to get back down to Mexico and it is much past their 6 month permit date?

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I would ask the person that did all the paperwork for the guns. Iím pretty sure itís going to cost them one way or another something. Let us know how it turns out.


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Old 07-12-2018, 11:32 AM   #680
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Never been asked for a Tourist Card over last 15 years traveling Mexico.

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Old 07-12-2018, 11:38 AM   #681
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The visa is real. I have had several over the years. Had one last year. Never been asked to show it. Doesn't mean I wont be asked on my next trip down.
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Putting cameras out next trip, hope they donít melt.

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I would call Humberto.
How does that happen?
I wouldnt be riding around with those guns anywhere in Mexico. Imagine you will go straight to jail and they will sort the paperwork out later. Unless you got alotta money.
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:55 AM   #683
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Putting cameras out next trip, hope they donít melt.

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Say whaaaaaaaa!?!??? i wouldnít be doing anything till i had that straightened out!
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Old 07-12-2018, 12:05 PM   #684
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Putting cameras out next trip, hope they donít melt.

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That is a HUGE no no. It can affect the landowners ability to get permits for the following year :0

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Old 07-12-2018, 12:40 PM   #685
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That is a HUGE no no. It can affect the landowners ability to get permits for the following year :0

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We had a guy do it once. He had to apply for an extension I think. Bernardo would know.
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We had a guy do it once. He had to apply for an extension I think. Bernardo would know.


Thatís what Iíve heard.
I know a guy that wasnít able to come due to unforeseen reasons. No one else can check your guns out.



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Old 07-12-2018, 01:05 PM   #687
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Thatís what Iíve heard.
I know a guy that wasnít able to come due to unforeseen reasons. No one else can check your guns out.



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I have a good buddy that lost his dad during season after he had checked his guns in already. Had to provide the death certificate to get his guns out. Sad deal.


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I have a good buddy that lost his dad during season after he had checked his guns in already. Had to provide the death certificate to get his guns out. Sad deal.


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We had the same situation many years ago with a young man killed in a car crash. Very sad deal and not an easy process if I can remember. This was probably 12 years ago, lease boss was finally able to get them out with much help from Angadi.

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We had the same situation many years ago with a young man killed in a car crash. Very sad deal and not an easy process if I can remember. This was probably 12 years ago, lease boss was finally able to get them out with much help from Angadi.

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Old 07-13-2018, 01:30 AM   #690
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We leave our guns at the ranch, but Id heard if you brought them back to the USA during the season and couldnt make it back down to mexico to check them out, you could take them to a local mexican consulate and present them there and they would cancel the permit.
Supposedly a special deal youd have to set up way beforehand.
Im interested in Angadis take on the visas if you stay in the border zone.


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Old 07-13-2018, 10:04 PM   #691
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I brought my friend’s gun out last year when I brought my gun out. No questions asked. They didn’t even ask why I was bringing his out. But this was the last weekend of the season.
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:44 PM   #692
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As long as the air rifle is not CO2 powered or powered by a separate tank youíll have no problems. CO2 cartridges, or any compressed air for that matter, are no nos. Keep gun with scope on it and pellets in a separate bag. If you take scope off they can claim the scope is a firearm component and make you go back or confiscate it. Keep all together and ABSOLUTELY declare it. Youíll have zero problems.


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I crossed 2 several years ago. Had the scopes on the guns and didnít have an issue. Iíve also crossed with a scope off the Gun and had hell with them trying to take the scope because it wasnít attached and they said we could sell to bad people! . Just like everything else its going to depend on who you get that day checking you!


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I brought my friendís gun out last year when I brought my gun out. No questions asked. They didnít even ask why I was bringing his out. But this was the last weekend of the season.
Wow, no way in hell would i bring a gun out that I did not have the registration papers on, you are very lucky you did not encounter mucho problemos.
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:22 PM   #694
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Wow, no way in hell would i bring a gun out that I did not have the registration papers on, you are very lucky you did not encounter mucho problemos.


Iíve brought my dads out before with his paperwork, but not something I would recommend.


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Old 07-14-2018, 01:07 AM   #695
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Wow, no way in hell would i bring a gun out that I did not have the registration papers on, you are very lucky you did not encounter mucho problemos.
Agree 100%. The ammo would add to your problems if it was a different caliber than the one you had paperwork for too.

As for the Visa, Humberto told me several years ago that we should have one and I have gotten one every season. Never been asked for it though. Peace of mind is easily worth the $20 it cost IMO.
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Old 07-14-2018, 09:22 AM   #696
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All my crew who check guns have been getting the visa the last couple years. Easy process at the P. N. crossing. We turn it in when checking guns out.All guns are accompanied by their owner checking in and out. We follow ALL the gun laws as the last thing I want in Mexico is any sort of gun related problem!
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Old 07-14-2018, 05:19 PM   #697
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Wow, no way in hell would i bring a gun out that I did not have the registration papers on, you are very lucky you did not encounter mucho problemos.
I didnít say I brought it out without his registration.
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Old 07-14-2018, 05:25 PM   #698
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I didnít say I brought it out without his registration.
Gotcha, I still would not have tried it.
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Old 07-14-2018, 05:28 PM   #699
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Agree 100%. The ammo would add to your problems if it was a different caliber than the one you had paperwork for too.

As for the Visa, Humberto told me several years ago that we should have one and I have gotten one every season. Never been asked for it though. Peace of mind is easily worth the $20 it cost IMO.
Guys, I guess I didnít make it clear. I know all the requirements involved in hunting in Mexico. Iíve only been hunting down there for about 25 years give are take a few. I was only trying to pass on that if you follow all the requirements you have a good chance of staying out of trouble.
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Old 07-14-2018, 05:30 PM   #700
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I brought my friendís gun out last year when I brought my gun out. No questions asked. They didnít even ask why I was bringing his out. But this was the last weekend of the season.


Very lucky that you didnít get thrown in jail.


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