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    Extremely proud of my oldest daughter and diappointed in the Navy

    The other day my oldest daughter (20 years old) came up to me and said "dad I got something to tell you. I am thinking wrecked car, boy trouble, moving out something along that line of thought. She tells me she is thinking about enlisting in the Navy. It really caught me off guard. I ask her when she started thinking about this. She told me she had been thinking about it since her Jr. year in high school. She has been going to Jr. college and almost has her associates degree. She told me she thought it would help her mature a little bit, she would get the rest of her college paid for, get to travel, and she likes the ocean. At first I was kind of dumbstruck. Did not want my girl moving off so far away. About a month goes by and she says I going to take the ASFAB test and talk to the recruiters. Now it has set in she is really serious about this. We talk about it a lot more serious and I tell her I am very proud of her decision.
    Well she sets everything up with the recruiter and she leaves the next day to go take her test, physical, and talk to the job counselor. She goes and takes the test and scores an 80 which is real good considering the average score on the test is 40-45. Her score qualifies her to do almost any job in the Navy. After she finds out her score she goes and takes the physical and passes that with flying colors. By this time she has been in Dallas for 2 days and still does not get to see the career counselor. Before she left she explained to the recruiter she had to be somewhere Thursday afternoon, he assured her she would be back in plenty time.
    This is the part that ticks me off, she has already been there for two days and has not seen the counselor and they start telling her if she leaves she will loose any chance she has and she will have to start all over again. So she tells them if she can get out of there by noon Thursday she could make her other appointment. So they tell her they promise she will be the first to see the counselor Thursday morning. She gets up at 4:30 Thursday morning and eats breakfast and goes to see the counselor. When she gets in there she tells the counselor she wants to be a Operations Specialist (which she qualifies for). The counselor tells her they have an opening for a dental tech. and most women would love to have that job. She tells them she does not want to be a tech. and she wants to be an ops specialist. (sonar, radar, and electronics on the ship). They continue to pressure her into trying to take another job and she continues to hold out even with 3 recruiters and 2 counselors hounding her. They wont let her leave the room and continue this until noon. She finally tells them if they won't give her the job she qualifies for then they can stick it, and she would like to be taken back to her car. They won't take her back to her car so she walks out and calls us and we drive to Dallas and pick her up and take her back to her car. My wife's cousin has been in the Navy for 20 years and is a LT. Commander which is very high up in rank. He is extremely excited about her choosing the Navy and wants to now how everything went. He calls and talks to my daughter and lets just say I would not want to be the counselors or the recruiters come Tuesday morning. ( sometimes its good to have an ace in the hole)
    Sorry for such a long read but I am very proud of my daughter for sticking to her guns and not folding under so much pressure and her choice of wanting to help protect our freedom as Americans.
    Last edited by mosey381; 05-29-2010, 02:07 PM.

    #2
    Good for her, hopefully the LTCDR can get it through to the recruiters that filling a "quota" isn't always the number one priority. Although I can see where they would be under the gun to do so since the quarter is coming to a close.

    Keep us updated to the outcome.

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      #3
      1369 were does the Lt CDR fall in the rank structure. I am pretty sure it is higher than a recruiter

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        #4
        Originally posted by mosey381 View Post
        1369 were does the Lt CDR fall in the rank structure. I am pretty sure it is higher than a recruiter
        Since she was enlisting, I'm pretty sure she was dealing with a Petty Officer (Enlisted NCO) of some flavor, probably an E-5 to E-7. Now, the LTCDR is an officer (O-4) which is equivalent to a Major in the other services, so I'd imagine he will be bending someone's ear next week over this.

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          #5
          I hope so, she has been really proud of her decision and is going to continue no matter what. But I really think I am more proud of her than she is!!

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            #6
            You should be, she didn't let them bully her into something she didn't want to do.

            And, nice rack in the avatar!

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              #7
              Yeah. I agree

              Originally posted by 1369 View Post
              You should be, she didn't let them bully her into something she didn't want to do.

              And, nice rack in the avatar!
              In BOTH of your avatars. LOL

              Mosey,

              Please tell your daughter that I applaud her for standing up for her principles! Our armed forces need service women & men just like her.

              It's a good thing those counselors & recruiters are protected by fences & gates. I imagine you wanted to have some "face time" with them. I sure would have.

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                #8
                TX Wildlife, you are exactly right. I have gotten a little wiser in my older age. I don't think in these times it would be wise to go to the federal building and raise hell. Dad might end up in the poky. I know they have quotas to fill and certain positions to fill but why not fill those spots with someone that does not know what they want to do. I did not see the need for them to try and bully her, she wants to join and she qualifies for the ops specialist. I can see where some would get discouraged and decide not to enlist. I have a feeling it will be straightened out next week.

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                  #9
                  I wish her luck and you should be proud!!!

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                    #10
                    First of all I applaud her for her intentions to serve AND for standing her ground! I was in the U.S. Coast Guard for 8 years and those "Sand Peep" recruiters WILL try to fill their job quotas at the expense of the applicant. I would love to be a fly on the wall when ol' uncle LCDR so and so expresses his displeasure on how his niece was treated by the Navy recruiters!

                    Semper Paratus!

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                      #11
                      She appears to be on track to a bright future! Hope everything works out.

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                        #12
                        Good for her.

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                          #13
                          Way to go! She has very fine ethics and that makes for a great leader.

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                            #14
                            Tell your daughter,she did good. Excellent.Recuriters have no power to say what rate they can put you in anyway. They will lie right to your face. That is all determined in bootcamp,with test and classes. The test she took was only to find What she was qualified for,NOT what rate she would be entering. What rate you go into is also determined,if they have a need or vacancy in any particular rate. If a recruiter promises her anything. GET IT IN WRITING. But, even that's not a guarantee. Also please tell her not to give-up on the Navy. I feel,she has made an excellent choice. Go see another (different) Navy recuriter I cannot believe they treated her that way. Iam embarassed.
                            Good luck to the young lady.She won't regret her decision.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mosey381 View Post
                              1369 were does the Lt CDR fall in the rank structure. I am pretty sure it is higher than a recruiter
                              Originally posted by 1369 View Post
                              Since she was enlisting, I'm pretty sure she was dealing with a Petty Officer (Enlisted NCO) of some flavor, probably an E-5 to E-7. Now, the LTCDR is an officer (O-4) which is equivalent to a Major in the other services, so I'd imagine he will be bending someone's ear next week over this.
                              Correct, but even though he is an officer, he has to follow their chain of command and talk to their commander or he will get someone butthurt for not talking to them first. There are other recruiters in other offices she can try and talk to as well instead of this bunch. she just needs to talk to the right one.

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