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Old 09-03-2017, 12:53 PM   #1
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As the saying goes, time flies when your having fun. I just returned from hunting Pronghorn in Colorado with Brett C last week and it is already time to get all my stuff together and ready for elk. This past summer I was doing my research on GoHunt and found a unit that intrigued me. It is a mostly roadless unit with tons of public land and holds some BIG Bulls. After going over the draw odds and success rates I decided this was the unit I wanted to apply for. I applied in the DIY guide draw and I was stoked when I found out I drew a few months back. The DIY guide draw is basically just paying to almost double your odds of drawing in New Mexico. To keep things legal I must meet a “guide” in the unit twice for at least 5 minutes each meeting. Most likely we will meet the day before the hunt and maybe a few days into the hunt. That said the outfitter did not provide anything and this is a completely DIY hunt.

After drawing the tag I met a New Mexico Local on bowsite who also had the same tag and who also was planning on hunting solo. We talked a little and got idea of how competent of a hunter each other was and then we decided we would be better off hunting together. James has hunted this unit 4 times now and has killed 3 bulls. The season opens September 15 and runs to the 24th. With the dark moon and the amount of water the unit has gotten this year there should be some big bulls and they should be going crazy. James and I are going to meet up on September 14th to get our base camp set up and to go out for an evening of scouting before the season opens. We are planning on Truck camping however we will have to ability to spike out for 2-3 days at a time if we need.

I am starting this thread early because I know how much guys like gear and planning for trips. Heck I think the planning aspect of a hunt is almost as fun as the hunt its self. I will be posting my gear list, food and anything else I can think of that goes into making this trip happen.
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Old 09-03-2017, 12:58 PM   #2
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Good luck JT! Definitely following along when I'm in service and not elk hunting myself.


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Old 09-03-2017, 12:59 PM   #3
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I have actually talked to a few people I know who have hunted this unit. Here area couple of phone scope pics one of my buddies took last season.






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Old 09-03-2017, 01:04 PM   #4
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Old 09-03-2017, 01:04 PM   #5
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Good luck on your hunt! How much did you have to pay your "guide" for the 2 meetings?
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Old 09-03-2017, 01:10 PM   #6
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Good luck on your hunt! How much did you have to pay your "guide" for the 2 meetings?


The way it works is you sign a contract with the outfitter and they give you their outfitter number to put on your tag application. If you do not draw your tag you do not owe them a penny. If you do draw your tag you pay them $1200.00 The tag itself was $820 or something like that.

The area I am hunting a landowner tag would cost $7000+ so at $2000 I'm still getting the tag for MUCH cheaper than if I didn't draw a tag. I want to say my odds of drawing went from 8-9% to 17-18% by taking the guide draw route.


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Old 09-03-2017, 01:20 PM   #7
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So you entered the guided draw and found the minimum requirements to be legal right? Cause I've never heard of a guided diy draw in New Mexico lol
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Old 09-03-2017, 01:31 PM   #8
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Good luck. Those are nice bulls in the pics.
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Old 09-03-2017, 01:32 PM   #9
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So you entered the guided draw and found the minimum requirements to be legal right? Cause I've never heard of a guided diy draw in New Mexico lol


The outfitters actually have it set up for the min legal requirements if you choose to go that route. It's a easy $1200 in their pocket. Most outfitters offer this package.


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Old 09-03-2017, 01:48 PM   #10
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Good luck JT !!
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Old 09-03-2017, 02:00 PM   #11
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Best of luck with the hunt. Hopefully you see many >350 bulls.
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Old 09-03-2017, 02:15 PM   #12
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Looking forward to following along. It appears I will be sitting this year out.

Good luck!
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Old 09-03-2017, 02:44 PM   #13
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Yeah, it sucks NRs have to spend that much extra just to have a shot at a few of the tags on federal land, but I'm glad you got one. Good luck!
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Old 09-03-2017, 02:51 PM   #14
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Good luck, can't wait to follow along!
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Old 09-03-2017, 02:55 PM   #15
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Just went in the back yard and set up my tent. I had never pitched it with the bug nest and I also wanted to make sure that my air bed was going to fit good. This thing will be like a one man palace. It is a my trail co 4 man tipi. I got it new when they were running a huge sale for like $350. It can be used as floorless or with the nest. I will be using the nest since we are truck camping.


This is what it looks like with the rain fly attached





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Old 09-03-2017, 03:12 PM   #16
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The best to ya JT. Looking forward to the updates and pics.
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Old 09-03-2017, 04:22 PM   #17
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Knock down a good one!


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Old 09-03-2017, 04:30 PM   #18
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Good luck! I'll be following along.
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Old 09-03-2017, 05:51 PM   #19
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Good luck JT, im super jealous. Take lots of pics!


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Old 09-03-2017, 06:01 PM   #20
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Good luck JT, im super jealous. Take lots of pics!


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Lol thanks man. Lots of whiney little girls on here anymore. Anyone could have put into the same pool and had the same odds as me.


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Old 09-03-2017, 06:28 PM   #21
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Good luck JT. Hope you get a goodun

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Old 09-03-2017, 06:32 PM   #22
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Good luck on your hunt!

Will you be using the Iron Will broadheads?
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Old 09-03-2017, 06:32 PM   #23
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Haha good luck JT. Hope you stick a giant. Lots of complainers around here lately


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Old 09-03-2017, 06:37 PM   #24
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Stop explaining yourself JT. You done good.

Now back to the equipment and prep.

Good luck and I hope you smash a monster.


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Old 09-03-2017, 07:10 PM   #25
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And I want to be clear that if I had the money I would be doing the same thing you are every year. If there is a way to better your odds you have to take it. Im fine with not being able to hunt new mexico for now.
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Old 09-03-2017, 07:13 PM   #26
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Will you be using the Iron Will broadheads?
Ok so here is the bow and arrow set up I'm running. It's the same as from my antelope hunt. Elite E35 70# 28.5"
Gold tip pierce 300 435ish grains


I will have the iron will heads on two of my arrows and the new rage trypan on the other 3. If I'm calling to a bull and he's coming to me I will nock the iron will. If it's a situation where I'm stalking in and the shot will be a little longer 50+ I will nock the trypan. I was really impressed that head on my antelope. It literally cut his spine in half. If it weren't for that slight chance of a quartering to me shot I would just shoot the trypan.


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Old 09-03-2017, 07:17 PM   #27
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Im liking the looks of the iron will. If they made a heavier version I would probably be buying a few


Edit: just looked and they have added a 210 gr. Might have cost me some money

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Old 09-03-2017, 07:31 PM   #28
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I am gonna be pretty busy at work the next week and a half so I'm trying to get some prep done this weekend. Just made some sausage egg and cheese breakfast burritos and vacuum sealed them. I can boil some water in the mornings and throw the whole thing in to warm them up. Easy breakfast with no clean up


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Old 09-03-2017, 07:45 PM   #29
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I am gonna be pretty busy at work the next week and a half so I'm trying to get some prep done this weekend. Just made some sausage egg and cheese breakfast burritos and vacuum sealed them. I can boil some water in the mornings and throw the whole thing in to warm them up. Easy breakfast with no clean up


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Going to be some very long work days.

Good luck. I'm jealous. I want to go elk hunting again. Maybe I can get drawn next year.
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Old 09-03-2017, 07:53 PM   #30
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You planning on hunting the whole season? That should be prime time
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Old 09-03-2017, 08:00 PM   #31
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You planning on hunting the whole season? That should be prime time
Yes plan is get there the 14th and scout half a day, then I am planning on hunting the entire 10 day season if needed. If I kill a bull early I am going to stay and help James. He said he would do the same. So we are there until two bulls hit the dirt.
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Old 09-03-2017, 08:09 PM   #32
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Good luck JT! I'll be following along and routing for you guys. I have killed a couple out in the Gila. You got this. Keep asking for help from momma, I talk to my dad and grandfather on my hunts all the time.
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Old 09-03-2017, 08:11 PM   #33
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great plan and best wishes too. watching.......
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Old 09-03-2017, 09:11 PM   #34
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Following along. Good luck. Stealing you breakfast burrito idea.
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Old 09-03-2017, 09:12 PM   #35
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Following along. Good luck. Stealing you breakfast burrito idea.
I was given that Idea by some guys on rokslide. I think it will work well tho
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Old 09-03-2017, 10:23 PM   #36
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Old 09-03-2017, 10:48 PM   #37
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Old 09-04-2017, 08:40 AM   #38
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Alright I have a question for the guys who have made the drive to the winston, TorC area of new mexico from the metroplex?? It shows that going through roswell is a little faster but there arent really many towns from Roswell to TorC.

I am thinking of leaving the 13th at 4pm and driving until im tired. Midnight would put me in El Paso and I could stop and get a cheap hotel. One more good night sleep and shower before truck camping the next 10 days. That would put me 2.5 hours from winston.

Or I could drive to Roswell and stay there but then I am 4.5 hours from winston when I wake up the next morning. Or I could drive all the way through and just sleep in the truck. But I dont really see any advantage to that.

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Old 09-04-2017, 09:02 AM   #39
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If you can make it to Socorro NM to get your room you can be really close to the unit.

If you can make 90 miles west of Roswell you can get a cheap room in Carrizozo and be 64 miles east of I-25.

Coming up US380 to I-25 is your quickest route.
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Old 09-04-2017, 09:06 AM   #40
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I would stay on interstate to El Paso. Few more miles, but no stopping in small towns.
Also, it is interstate all the way to TC. Less than 2 hours from EP to TC.
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I feel like after 3 other elk hunts and my moose hunt I am finally starting to get my gear dialed a little. This is what I carry in my possibles pouch. I have these items with me at all times no matter if I'm day hunting or packing in.

Small first aid kit (bandaids, Advil, Benadryl)
Multi tool
Back up headlamp
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Extra d loop material, broadhead, field tip

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My kill kit like my possibles pouch is pretty simple as well.

Tag bomb(boned out meat bags)
Wire saw(I may get rid of this)
Tyto replaceable blade knife
Extra blades
Ink pen
Latex gloves
Alcohol wipes(not sure why those are in there lol)

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Old 09-04-2017, 10:57 AM   #43
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Following along for the adventure!
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Old 09-04-2017, 11:17 AM   #44
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Old 09-04-2017, 11:20 AM   #45
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My kill kit like my possibles pouch is pretty simple as well.

Tag bomb(boned out meat bags)
Wire saw(I may get rid of this)
Tyto replaceable blade knife
Extra blades
Ink pen
Latex gloves
Alcohol wipes(not sure why those are in there lol)

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If you get rid of the wire saw are you going to replace it with a hatchet or what?



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Old 09-04-2017, 11:22 AM   #46
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If you get rid of the wire saw are you going to replace it with a hatchet or what?



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No I won't replace it with anything. Really no need for it. You can cut between vertebrae to get the head off and in joints on the legs. So not real sure what I would actually use it for lol


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Old 09-04-2017, 11:25 AM   #47
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Old 09-04-2017, 11:36 AM   #48
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Don't forget to pack a fresh onion... that way you can eat fresh liver and onions when you get some meat on the ground
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:37 PM   #49
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Don't forget to pack a fresh onion... that way you can eat fresh liver and onions when you get some meat on the ground
Im not much of a liver person. I will 100% be saving the heart tho. Moose heart was one of the best meals ive ever eaten in my life
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It's BS that a dime needs to go into the diy guides pockets. But the voters win. Capitalism is that everyone can have better odds with more money. But it should just go to the wildlife department as the more you "donate" the better percentage you get having levels of donations keeping a ceiling on a tag cost.

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