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Old 09-11-2017, 06:49 PM   #1
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The "boys" and I have several AR platforms in 5.56, 308, 6.5 Grendel...and I/we don't have a hankering for an AK...what would YOU want if you were me?

I'm retiring November 1st and would like something really that few have to put in our arsenal? Want a "low recoil and in a caliber that we can buy or custom build at reasonable price." Reloading days are long gone so it has to be something to order ammo on line or find at the "box gun stores..not Walley Word." Would like to stay in the AR15 platform...

I have always wanted a 22-250 or 260 in an AR platform, but constant research on line has few if any options. At least for me/us...can't see any real advantage for the 300 BO options, but convince me if we/me are missing something?

Any advice?????
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Old 09-11-2017, 06:52 PM   #2
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My dad has a .410 AR. Its a lot of fun to shoot.
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Old 09-11-2017, 06:56 PM   #3
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Nemo 300 winmag AR

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Old 09-11-2017, 07:08 PM   #4
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.204 in an ar platform is pretty cool.
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:09 PM   #5
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I like my 6.8, .204 would be cool too

But if Your okay with considering a non low recoil option, I'd go 458 socom, 300 win mag, or 450 bushmaster
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:11 PM   #6
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someday I will build a 6.8, next 450bush
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:22 PM   #7
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458 socom or 50 Beowulf

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Old 09-11-2017, 07:24 PM   #8
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204, 6.8 or 458 socom
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:26 PM   #9
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I had a 6.8 and it's a good round but for me I can't beat a 300 black. if I am hunting with my ar then my shots are not over 200 yards ( I did kill a buck with my 6.8 at 325) if I go over 200 I grab my 300 win or 260 or one of several other larger guns. the black has no recoil and I can shoot in a short barrel and with subs if wanted. I shot a doe at 120 yards last year with the Barnes bullet and she never moved
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:31 PM   #10
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Nemo also offeres your .260, but reasonable isn't how I would describe the price on those.

Do you have a trust and any interest in a SBR? If so, maybe a short 6.8spc. Could also just build a pistol, some of the new "braces" aren't horrible looking.

25-45 sharps.

Or build one in 7.62x39, dirt cheap ammo available everywhere. Maybe a folding pistol brace with I tiny barrel. Would be like a flame thrower.

A CMMG mutant with a fostech echo trigger would be a blast!!!
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:49 PM   #11
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For something different I'd go 25-45 sharps, 277 wolverine or 204. I don't think you can find the first two calibers in too many places so you'd have to order online if you don't reload.
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:55 PM   #12
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204 would be my choice.
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:59 PM   #13
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Second on 277 wolverine
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:04 PM   #14
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You need a big bore! I like the .450 bushmaster
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:29 PM   #15
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204 would be my choice.
My vote goes 204 also. I was going to build one but got impatient and got a great deal on a bolt gun. A couple of guys are making them but not many.
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:37 PM   #16
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The only readily available caliber that will do something you can't do with the 5.56 and 6.8 would be an SBR 300 BO.

The 308 and 6.5 grendal are going to be your long range deer hunting guns, the 5.56 will kill any predator from 0- whatever you can hit it.

A short, light 300 BO is great for sub 200 yards deer, will be lighter and move maneuverable than the grendal and 308. It is fun to shoot and really quiet with subs and a can. I have even shot 2 coyotes and dropped them dead with barnes bullets.
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:45 PM   #17
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Falkor .300 win mag!


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Old 09-11-2017, 09:01 PM   #18
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I have a 260 and love it a little heavy. It's based on a dpms lr shoots great to 1000 yards. I also just got some Grendel components to build me a lighter rifle. If I was you I'd got .458 socom, I used to have a 50 beawolf and that was awesome too.
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:16 PM   #19
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I built a 204 a while back, sold it on here to a guy. Awesome gun and super accurate. One of those guns I wish I never sold.

I used your "standard" ar parts. Went top end on a shilien barrel that I had fluted and threaded for a suppressor. Nice G2 trigger and a PRS stock.

Prolly build another one some day
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:18 PM   #20
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I vote .458 socom, big bore for big critters!
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:18 PM   #21
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7.62X39 AR. Fantastic critter cartridge, low recoil, easy on the wallet. I have 3 of them, one for each kid!! At least thats how I sold it. On pigs, its just very, very, effective.

Here's one of my reviews and some pig whacking:
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:32 PM   #22
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theres a nice 762 39 mutant in the classifieds here. that would be cool. or a shorty 300 bo. an 8-10 inch 300 blackout suppressed subsonic is a fun little gun!

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Old 09-11-2017, 09:57 PM   #23
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Id say a light weight 9mm carbine.. it could be your jack rabbit / turtle blaster/ plinker and small pig gun
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Old 09-11-2017, 10:06 PM   #24
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458 socom or 50 Beowulf

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Yup
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:38 AM   #25
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6.8 won't do anything your Grendel won't do. Really with what you have you have everything covered.

But a 300 Blackout is nice, low recoil, low muzzle flash/blast, very effective 250 yards and in. But I personally see absolutely no need to have one with any longer than an 8-9" barrel.

Really anything else you get will get into the realm of odd calibers with limited ammo availability or questionable reliability.


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Old 09-12-2017, 07:49 AM   #26
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Low recoil, and commercialy available ammo. I would get an AR57.
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:50 AM   #27
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AR10 built right in 260

Lilja barrel, mega maten receiver sets. Etc. I've been dragging *** not building one for years. I need to do it. 6.5x47 is another good option. There's factory ammo for it.
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:52 AM   #28
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:50 PM   #29
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6.8 won't do anything your Grendel won't do. Really with what you have you have everything covered.

But a 300 Blackout is nice, low recoil, low muzzle flash/blast, very effective 250 yards and in. But I personally see absolutely no need to have one with any longer than an 8-9" barrel.

Really anything else you get will get into the realm of odd calibers with limited ammo availability or questionable reliability.


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The Grendel is my favorite...so far and won't let the 3 son's even fight for it, lol! Does the 300 BO in sub or super provide that much better ballistics than say the 5.56? NO experience with the 300 at all. I do have some experience with the 204 and love the round, but only experience with the bolt action.

Just like to play with the AR platforms and shoulders don't react well to the higher recoil even with the 308.
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:01 PM   #30
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I have a buddy who just recently had a 204 built and has already taken a half dozen coyotes with it. He has always been a bolt gun guy but says his is a cats meow on the yotes.
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:40 PM   #31
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The Grendel is my favorite...so far and won't let the 3 son's even fight for it, lol! Does the 300 BO in sub or super provide that much better ballistics than say the 5.56? NO experience with the 300 at all. I do have some experience with the 204 and love the round, but only experience with the bolt action.



Just like to play with the AR platforms and shoulders don't react well to the higher recoil even with the 308.


Terminal ballistics to 200 yards, yes. Trajectory beyond 200 no.




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Old 09-12-2017, 06:42 PM   #32
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300 Blk with super loads is comparable to a 30-30.
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:44 PM   #33
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The "boys" and I have several AR platforms in 5.56, 308, 6.5 Grendel...and I/we don't have a hankering for an AK...what would YOU want if you were me?

I'm retiring November 1st and would like something really that few have to put in our arsenal? Want a "low recoil and in a caliber that we can buy or custom build at reasonable price." Reloading days are long gone so it has to be something to order ammo on line or find at the "box gun stores..not Walley Word." Would like to stay in the AR15 platform...

I have always wanted a 22-250 or 260 in an AR platform, but constant research on line has few if any options. At least for me/us...can't see any real advantage for the 300 BO options, but convince me if we/me are missing something?

Any advice?????

204 ruger
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:44 PM   #34
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I'm starting to plan a build. I'd like a quality Glock mag compatible 9mm SBR/Integrally Suppressed with a forward charging handle with a good Echo type trigger. Or I could hit the lottery and buy a transferable MP5.
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:42 PM   #35
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Dude, I want to see pics of the .410!
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Old 09-12-2017, 08:02 PM   #36
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9mm. This one's got a 4.5" barrel.

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Old 09-12-2017, 08:50 PM   #37
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Add another vote for the .204 Ruger. Makes for a great varmint rifle, not so hot for bigger stuff but you hit anything in the ear hole and it doesn't move much.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:56 PM   #38
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I build the addictive little things. I have them in the following calibers: 5.56, 6x45, Grendel, 6.8, 300 BO, 7.62X39, and AR 10's in 308 and 338 Federal. My favorite is the 6X45. Next is the 7.62X39. Wolf makes a 154 gr. SP loading that is death on pigs for the 7.62. I can't seem to warm up to the 6.8. The Grendel hasn't been fooled with enough to really form a bond yet.
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:55 AM   #39
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I have seen ARs recently being built in the new 22 Nosler round. Close to 22-250 velocities from the AR-15.

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Old 09-13-2017, 08:19 AM   #40
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I want a .50 Beowulf. Just to say I have a 50 cal AR
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:32 AM   #41
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:00 AM   #42
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7.62X39 AR. Fantastic critter cartridge, low recoil, easy on the wallet. I have 3 of them, one for each kid!! At least thats how I sold it. On pigs, its just very, very, effective.

Here's one of my reviews and some pig whacking:
https://youtu.be/WrW3nAIMMOk
Enjoyed the video...good background music too!
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:07 AM   #43
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458 socom or 50 Beowulf

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My exact thoughts. I want a .50 AR bad because I 'need' one! It makes big holes and must surely have a satisfying thump!
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:20 AM   #44
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You have pretty much everything covered... so I'd go 9mm
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Old 09-14-2017, 01:50 PM   #45
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You've got the killing stuff covered. I'd go with a having fun thing. 9mm AR fits the bill (and is cheap to shoot). This is my 4.5" barrel 9mm with Rugged Obsidian suppressor and red dot.

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Old 09-14-2017, 05:28 PM   #46
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450 Bushmaster. Deer hate it, my girls love it.
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Old 09-14-2017, 05:30 PM   #47
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getting some ideas....
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Old 09-14-2017, 05:50 PM   #48
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For a fun little round look at the 5.7X28 upper. Uses the same 30 or 50 rounds as the FN PS-90. ballistic wise it is about the same as a 22 Hornet.
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