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Old 01-18-2018, 12:22 PM   #101
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I read a couple of days ago that his girlfriend deleted her Facebook account like an hour before his name was announced as the shooter.


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Wasn't a bound report released earlier this week or last week? Did anyone actually take the time to see what it said?
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Old 01-18-2018, 04:22 PM   #103
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Wasn't a bound report released earlier this week or last week? Did anyone actually take the time to see what it said?
There was email correspondence between an account believed to belong to paddock and an unknown. I'll try and find the link, but the basics were Paddock saying

They could "try before they buy" "WE have several Ar's to choose from" "try a bumpfire stock for a real thrill"

The unknown party responds with "we have several optics to try out".


I'm really starting to believe this was a botched sting operation by the feds being covered up.
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Old 01-18-2018, 04:26 PM   #104
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There was email correspondence between an account believed to belong to paddock and an unknown. I'll try and find the link, but the basics were Paddock saying

They could "try before they buy" "WE have several Ar's to choose from" "try a bumpfire stock for a real thrill"

The unknown party responds with "we have several optics to try out".


I'm really starting to believe this was a botched sting operation by the feds being covered up.
That was the jist of the entire report that was released? Interesting takes on this subject though.
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That was the jist of the entire report that was released? Interesting takes on this subject though.
Oh i'm sure it wasn't the entire jist. That is just part of what was released, I haven't read the entire thing.
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Old 01-18-2018, 04:37 PM   #106
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There was email correspondence between an account believed to belong to paddock and an unknown. I'll try and find the link, but the basics were Paddock saying

They could "try before they buy" "WE have several Ar's to choose from" "try a bumpfire stock for a real thrill"

The unknown party responds with "we have several optics to try out".


I'm really starting to believe this was a botched sting operation by the feds being covered up.
I wish I knew HOW to dig into this more.. I just don't.. And I don't have the time..
I know with out a doubt this will be HUGE when the truth comes out.. I believe the FEDS and the LV PD dropped the ball big time and a lot of innocent people died... There is no telling who or what is on those videos that are for "their eyes only!!!




I believe botched would be the word along with gross negligence....

Big Money always seem to get in the way.. It rules the world.
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Old 01-18-2018, 04:41 PM   #107
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I'm really starting to believe this was a botched sting operation by the feds being covered up.
50+ deaths due to a botched sting operation could have significant monetary repercussions for the city of Las Vegas.

I'm stating the obvious of course.
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Oh i'm sure it wasn't the entire jist. That is just part of what was released, I haven't read the entire thing.
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Press conference today at noon!
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Old 01-19-2018, 11:23 AM   #110
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Not holding my breathe
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I hear ya! I'm not into the conspiracy thing but was just letting folks know about it that are concerned.

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I'm thinking with this supposed bombshell that is being held in Congress at the moment, they may actually release quite a bit to draw attention.
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Old 01-19-2018, 12:39 PM   #113
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Old 01-19-2018, 12:55 PM   #114
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Absolutely nothing other than they found child **** on the shooters computer and have over 21,560 hours of footage that they have reviewed.
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Absolutely nothing other than they found child **** on the shooters computer and have over 21,560 hours of footage that they have reviewed.
Seriously? That's disappointing.
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Old 01-19-2018, 02:01 PM   #116
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Pitiful...

It might just be me but I have zero confidence in the FBI anymore. Barney Fife could do a better job.
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Old 01-19-2018, 02:52 PM   #117
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It might just be me but I have zero confidence in the FBI anymore. Barney Fife could do a better job.

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Old 01-19-2018, 03:01 PM   #118
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Pitiful...

It might just be me but I have zero confidence in the FBI anymore. Barney Fife could do a better job.
They haven't deserved confidence in decades. Heck, just a two years ago an agent was willing to let terrorist kill a bunch of people in Texas. Luckily that cop could shoot. Just goes to show they are not against letting (wanting?) citizens getting harmed to get to their end goal. Whatever that may be.
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:30 PM   #119
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That was a huge disappointment
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:55 PM   #120
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21,000 hrs of footage...how about releasing a couple minutes of it.
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:57 PM   #121
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Didn't the cops initially say he destroyed/removed his hard drive from his computer? No computer expert but the seems to be walking that back some, right?


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Old 01-19-2018, 05:35 PM   #122
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Sheriff: FBI Has Ongoing Case Against Individual Other Than Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock

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Old 01-19-2018, 05:49 PM   #123
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Plenty of things don't add up. Tuned in for developments. Not holding my breath, but tuned in.


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Old 01-19-2018, 06:50 PM   #124
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21,000 hrs of footage...how about releasing a couple minutes of it.
Now if they did that everyone would realize this his all been a cover up from the word go now wouldn't they..... Not a snowballs chance that happens voluntarily. At this point in the game that can't afford that..

Reguardless the truth will eventually be uncovered..
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:21 PM   #125
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Now if they did that everyone would realize this his all been a cover up from the word go now wouldn't they..... Not a snowballs chance that happens voluntarily. At this point in the game that can't afford that..

Reguardless the truth will eventually be uncovered..
I think maybe they placed their bets on the fact that if they made this a long drawn out case eventually admitting to a cover up later than sooner....most people would have forgot and moved on..thus not impacting the Vegas economy as bad.
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I think maybe they placed their bets on the fact that if they made this a long drawn out case eventually admitting to a cover up later than sooner....most people would have forgot and moved on..thus not impacting the Vegas economy as bad.
My thoughts too... Im sure they are hoping it just goes away... Most of the populous, for whatever reason, seem to forget extremely quick. They know this..
Fortunately there are a few investigative reporters that I believe are not going to let this die.. I sure hope that's the case!!!
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Old 01-20-2018, 07:25 AM   #127
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So you really think the average citizen in the middle of being shot at has the ability to distinguish a single rapid fire gunshot from multiple shooters?

I think thatís reaching........a lot.

The amount of panic, screaming, running, trampling, etc that was going on.....I think I can honestly say I would give a **** less if it was one shooter or multiples I would be concerned about getting my *** out of there.


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I have thought the same thing. I take report calls all the time where the average person can really really twist the smallest thing way out of proportion due to fear. (Those 12 foot cobras that flare out and show their fangs, before going behind the washing machine, usually turn out to be a 16 inch grass snake). People think "both ends of the crowd were taking bullets, so there had to be more than one shooter for that to happen." From that high up and afar, moving the muzzle a few inches left and right can put bullets all over town, several street blocks away, in a matter of seconds. Several bursts to the north end crowd, and then several bursts to the south end crowd, within brief seconds, is realistic from his spot. I'm not saying he was for sure a lone shooter, but to say that he wasn't, because of how the vast area got hammered with bullets, is not a solid speculation. If there was more than one though, I hope they're all caught and dealt with.

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So far my new heavy gauge tin foil hat is doing a good job. I'm safe for now.
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I think maybe they placed their bets on the fact that if they made this a long drawn out case eventually admitting to a cover up later than sooner....most people would have forgot and moved on..thus not impacting the Vegas economy as bad.
Gives guilty people time to move. Then it's a lot easier to avoid questions etc.


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So what exactly would the FBI need to do for you to not believe them? I don't understand how anyone can follow this and not be 100% sure we are and were being lied to.
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:54 AM   #131
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https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Document..._Footnoted.pdf

This is a link to the released report, they basically rehash the same info for 80 pages. But it has some new pictures. I dont know why Paddock had so many bipods on his long guns, the way they are dispersed seems odd too.
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Tune in to FOX now.. Martha has new info. After commercial break.

I wonder what it is..
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I wonder what it is..
What was it?


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Just more confusion, smoke and mirrors.
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I definitely don't believe we know the whole story. But I am not sure its something we need to know. It is strange that this has died down so fast and that the liberals are still not marching against gun rights using the bump stock AR platform. This was a tragic event and within a week the media was almost silent while a single shooting elsewhere is discussed for months. Is it a cover-up or simply, is it LEO being quiet while the actual investigation is being completed, or is it simply the government hushing the press to prevent people from stopping travel plans to a location dependent upon visitors. The economy would greatly suffer if folks decided Vegas was unsafe. Whatever the reason this has been the strangest mass shooting ever in how the press and liberals have reacted.
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I definitely don't believe we know the whole story. But I am not sure its something we need to know. It is strange that this has died down so fast and that the liberals are still not marching against gun rights using the bump stock AR platform. This was a tragic event and within a week the media was almost silent while a single shooting elsewhere is discussed for months. Is it a cover-up or simply, is it LEO being quiet while the actual investigation is being completed, or is it simply the government hushing the press to prevent people from stopping travel plans to a location dependent upon visitors. The economy would greatly suffer if folks decided Vegas was unsafe. Whatever the reason this has been the strangest mass shooting ever in how the press and liberals have reacted.
Its not just the Vegas shooting but what about the school shooting here? Crickets!! My best guess is the media is silent because both shooters were liberal ANTIFA scum which the Media for the last year has embraced and encouraged.
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I definitely don't believe we know the whole story. But I am not sure its something we need to know. It is strange that this has died down so fast and that the liberals are still not marching against gun rights using the bump stock AR platform. This was a tragic event and within a week the media was almost silent while a single shooting elsewhere is discussed for months. Is it a cover-up or simply, is it LEO being quiet while the actual investigation is being completed, or is it simply the government hushing the press to prevent people from stopping travel plans to a location dependent upon visitors. The economy would greatly suffer if folks decided Vegas was unsafe. Whatever the reason this has been the strangest mass shooting ever in how the press and liberals have reacted.
Dozens of Americans were killed and hundreds injured. There is nothing about this we "don't need to know". Anyone else involved that they may be investigating knows they are being investigated.
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Its not just the Vegas shooting but what about the school shooting here? Crickets!! My best guess is the media is silent because both shooters were liberal ANTIFA scum which the Media for the last year has embraced and encouraged.
VEgas shooter was ANTIFA member/supporter?
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A judge on Tuesday unsealed nearly 300 pages of search warrant records, including one document that publicly identified for the first time an additional “person of interest” in the Oct. 1 massacre on the Las Vegas Strip.
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VEgas shooter was ANTIFA member/supporter?
If I remember correctly, there were things on his social media linking him to several leftist and Anti-Trump groups.
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If I remember correctly, there were things on his social media linking him to several leftist and Anti-Trump groups.
Gotcha!!!
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Be careful out there Oscar!! Remember duck n cover!! That SCI convention will be a prime target!! Post up a live thread so the rest of us can come along!
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Be careful out there Oscar!! Remember duck n cover!! That SCI convention will be a prime target!! Post up a live thread so the rest of us can come along!
Truth! !! Will deaux Charlie!!!

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Just read an article saying that the second person of interest was just someone that sold ammo to Paddock. And the information on him came from an Amazon box with his information on it.


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If I remember correctly, there were things on his social media linking him to several leftist and Anti-Trump groups.
I thought it was reported he had no social media accounts.
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I thought it was reported he had no social media accounts.
LOL Gee who would of ever thunk it?
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LOL Gee who would of ever thunk it?
Crickets.. No video footage released yet..
But they are still talking about Lacey Peterson and Natalie Wood..
2 individuals, All these years later...
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On Friday they arrested the guy that made his handloads.

Out of all of this mess they arrested an arrested an engineer who reloaded as a side biz
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On Friday they arrested the guy that made his handloads.

Out of all of this mess they arrested an arrested an engineer who reloaded as a side biz
Armor piercing. Got to have a license to sell it...........
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