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Old 11-11-2019, 10:42 PM   #1
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Is there any work around for the antler restrictions? Iíve had one buck showing up for a couple years now with a full rack on one side and a split spike on the other. Donít really want him out breeding again this year and was wondering if there is sometime I could do.


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Old 11-11-2019, 10:47 PM   #2
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Culling doesn’t work
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:51 PM   #3
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Honestly it probably wouldnít have an impact if he did live. So what if he breeds, the buck is not the only one that determines the outcome of the offspring. So one option is to let it live and not risk it. As far as I know there is no work around.

The other option is well... Iíll let you figure that one out.


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Old 11-11-2019, 10:52 PM   #4
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The law is in place to protect younger deer and that deer breading wonít make a difference.

Had this buck on my hit list last year and was expecting to have a double drop this year.

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I would have to go back and check my pics but pretty sure this deer is one of the older Iíve ever had on camera that I recognize from year to year.

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Old 11-11-2019, 10:53 PM   #5
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If it has a full rack on one side and a split spike on the other, I doubt that is from genetics but from some kind of injury.
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:03 PM   #6
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Dart him and castrate


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Old 11-11-2019, 11:11 PM   #7
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MLD is a way around it
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:13 PM   #8
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If it has a full rack on one side and a split spike on the other, I doubt that is from genetics but from some kind of injury.
Agree. If his full side looks good I'd judge him off of that.
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:14 PM   #9
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Just let him go and enjoy being able to watch a mature deer. Most likely broke out his scull cap when shedding
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Old 11-12-2019, 06:41 AM   #10
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he will just add enjoyment to your hunts watch him and see what he becomes next year
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:29 AM   #11
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You can get mld 3

You can do what you want and not put on Facebook

How many doe is he breeding?
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:35 AM   #12
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Cull him out. What could happen?
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:41 AM   #13
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You can get mld 3

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How many doe is he breeding?


Atleast two that Iíve watched so far, he hasnít looked injured for the past couple years that I could see just wondering if there was anything else I could do


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Old 11-12-2019, 07:45 AM   #14
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Him breeding isnít going to change a thing with your herd so stop sweating it.


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Old 11-12-2019, 07:46 AM   #15
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Him breeding isnít going to change a thing with your herd so stop sweating it.


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Guess itís trust the green screen time. Preciate it yíall


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Old 11-12-2019, 07:47 AM   #16
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MLD is a way around it

Only way around it, it takes time but itís worth it.


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Old 11-12-2019, 07:50 AM   #17
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Thereís been studies that show older bucks arenít your main breeders. Us older, fatter males like to put other older, fatter males on a pedestal but in the real world those dang teenagers AKA the 2-3 year old bucks are the ones getting the busiest.


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Old 11-12-2019, 08:02 AM   #18
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If heís over 13Ē let someone take him out for you. If not 13Ē see what he does next year.
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:13 AM   #19
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:18 AM   #20
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Hopefully he breeds with a doe who throw bucks with a good side on the other side of its head. They match up and voila.. a monster
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:14 AM   #21
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Shoot'em and then call the GW, he will understand.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:21 AM   #22
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Is there any work around for the antler restrictions? Iíve had one buck showing up for a couple years now with a full rack on one side and a split spike on the other. Donít really want him out breeding again this year and was wondering if there is sometime I could do.


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How wide is he?
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:22 AM   #23
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Just about all of the cases you describe are the result of pedicle damage. When the platform that the antler grows from becomes damaged, the antler will never grow right again. This usually happens from fighting, a run-in with a car, or from a shedding event where a piece of the pedicle actually comes off with the antler (which many times results in a brain abscess and death, although apparently not in your case). As mentioned above, judge the deer by his good side, there is nothing wrong with him genetically. Also, as others have mentioned above, the ability to alter the genetic capability of the deer herd through selective harvest is doubtful at best.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:33 AM   #24
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https://www.qdma.com/spike-one-side-genetics-injury/

https://www.qdma.com/pumba-yet-anoth...ck-that-wasnt/
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:45 AM   #25
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Atleast two that Iíve watched so far, he hasnít looked injured for the past couple years that I could see just wondering if there was anything else I could do


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Wow you watched him breed 2 does you should go buy a Lotto ticket.

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Old 11-12-2019, 12:17 PM   #26
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No way he’s 13” this year and the game warden won’t understand if you kill him. He’s a stud based on his prior years, let him breed and pass on his genes!
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Old 11-12-2019, 12:19 PM   #27
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No way heís 13Ē this year and the game warden wonít understand if you kill him. Heís a stud based on his prior years, let him breed and pass on his genes!


If he had a full rack he would be a nice deer but his left side has been a spike with almost a 3 inch split every year so far


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Old 11-12-2019, 12:23 PM   #28
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MLD is a way around it
not to sound like a moron and will gladly accept any hazing (no snowflake here lol) what does MLD mean?
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Old 11-12-2019, 12:24 PM   #29
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not to sound like a moron and will gladly accept any hazing (no snowflake here lol) what does MLD mean?


Managed lands deer program, mainly for larger ranches or an area with a high populous of deer


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Old 11-12-2019, 12:26 PM   #30
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Managed lands deer program, mainly for larger ranches or an area with a high populous of deer


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Old 11-12-2019, 02:00 PM   #31
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not to sound like a moron and will gladly accept any hazing (no snowflake here lol) what does MLD mean?


It's a great question by the way.
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Old 11-12-2019, 02:11 PM   #32
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Is there any work around for the antler restrictions? Iíve had one buck showing up for a couple years now with a full rack on one side and a split spike on the other. Donít really want him out breeding again this year and was wondering if there is sometime I could do.


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Year before last I had the same question in my mind. Same antler configuration, four on one side, goofy looking fork on the other. Sent a pic to the warden and he said no. Obviously a mature buck, five or older.
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Old 11-12-2019, 02:20 PM   #33
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Year before last I had the same question in my mind. Same antler configuration, four on one side, goofy looking fork on the other. Sent a pic to the warden and he said no. Obviously a mature buck, five or older.


Good to know, heís a big bodied old buck. If one side matched the other he would easily be 20Ē wide and a 12 but such is luck I guess


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Old 11-12-2019, 08:40 PM   #34
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It's a great question by the way.
This is what Michael was talking about

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Old 11-12-2019, 09:14 PM   #35
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If he had a full rack he would be a nice deer but his left side has been a spike with almost a 3 inch split every year so far


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Sorry, I mistook Black Iceís pics for your deer. It sucks for sure, I hunt in a AR county also and have a 4yo that is wide on the right and his left barely curves at all leaving him in that maybe range. Too close for me to shoot him.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:23 PM   #36
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If it has a full rack on one side and a split spike on the other, I doubt that is from genetics but from some kind of injury.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:00 PM   #37
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Apparently if you shoot an undersized deer the warden cuts the deers head off and takes it! Gives your kid a shed antler and let’s you keep the meat lol ! Funny how the law is sometimes lol !
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Old 11-12-2019, 11:38 PM   #38
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Good to know, heís a big bodied old buck. If one side matched the other he would easily be 20Ē wide and a 12 but such is luck I guess


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Well if he had a full rack, he would probably be dead two years ago. Just enjoy being able to watch a mature deer and seeing what a deer can do in the area with age (his good side).
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