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Old 09-21-2015, 03:59 PM   #1
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The serving on my buss cable keeps breaking/getting cut right where it breaks over the module. I've had the bow about 2 weeks and my dealer has already redone the serving twice... 20-30 shots later this is what it looks like. Season is about to start and I'm really worried this won't be fixed in time.
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Old 09-21-2015, 04:06 PM   #2
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Forgot to add that I think the cam is rubbing and that's what's causing it, but not 100% sure
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Old 09-21-2015, 04:17 PM   #3
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Check to see if the cam is leaning if its leaning in that direction that would be the culprit...
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Old 09-21-2015, 04:28 PM   #4
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If it's leaning what's the fix? Adjust spacers? My dealer "tuned" the bow to fix cam lean Friday and was shooting good through paper,,, I've never tuned my own bow so I really don't know what needs to be done. I'm taking it back again tonight after work
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Old 09-21-2015, 04:39 PM   #5
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If its leaning it should be the adjustment to that side. Should add more twist to the string unless that puts the bow out of spec then you would need to let a twist out of the opposite side of the lean to bring it back straight..

I think i seen some where that there was a bearing issue.. Might check that as well. Idk if it pertained to one of the newer bows

what bow are you hav
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Old 09-21-2015, 05:23 PM   #6
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Old 09-21-2015, 05:26 PM   #7
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Sounds like there is a burr on the cam to me.
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Old 09-21-2015, 06:03 PM   #8
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Roper that pic looks like the bottom cam which can only be shimmed if the cable is contacting the cam, let the dealer fix this if it is a new bow. makes me kind of wonder if he knows what he is doing due to him re-serving it twice and not finding out what is causing the damage.
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Old 09-21-2015, 06:12 PM   #9
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Thanks for the help guys, hopefully he can get it fixed
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Roper,can you put a picture of the back of the cams,both top and bottom, on here? See if the modules are the same and see if the draw stop is in the correct hole. Just something to check.
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Old 09-22-2015, 09:06 AM   #11
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Did you get it fixed ??

I have the nitrum turbo and i haven't experienced this issue,, as it was stated might be the tech over looking something
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:09 AM   #12
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Well there was no spacer on the cable side of the bottom cam. I left it with him last night and will go back tonight to pick it up... I've been looking at the spacer missing for a few days but automatically assumed there wasn't supposed to be one since that's how it came straight out of the box(now I know better and feel pretty ignorant looking back).... I've been shooting for a long time but never gotten into the actual mechanics, guess it's time for me to learn.... And when my draw length was set the string stop wasn't moved and I shot it over the weekend like that. I knew it didn't feel right but new bow and pride wouldn't let me say it felt to heavy lol......

I'm hoping this will fix it... He spent lots of time trying to get it right and I guess without the spacer the cam just goes crazy during the shot and hitting the buss, he just missed it, everyone is human,,,
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:12 AM   #13
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Roper,can you put a picture of the back of the cams,both top and bottom, on here? See if the modules are the same and see if the draw stop is in the correct hole. Just something to check.
I will post a few pics when I pick it up, thanks for the replies
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:58 PM   #14
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My lower 27.5 mod for my Nitrum Turbo was treating my factory buss serving pretty bad. Bought a new set (60X of course!) served with halo and it's holding up good compared to the angel majesty Hoyt uses. Also, my module had a sharp edge on it when I installed it. I took a jeweler's file and broke the edge which helped a ton.

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Old 09-22-2015, 01:14 PM   #15
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Old 09-22-2015, 08:22 PM   #16
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Cam is still leaning and rubbing buss cable.... Sending it back to Hoyt tomorrow and definitely won't have it for opening day. This bow cost too much to deal with issues like this. Anyone ever tried to get their money back on a bow, is there a return policy?!

Also having our second baby's gender reveal party on opening day which involves me shooting a paint filled balloon with my bow... Wife is not happy!
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Old 10-20-2015, 07:07 PM   #17
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Well I got my bow back... Hoyt replaced the riser because it had a crack and said they fixed the cam lean... I put about 40 shots through it and the serving is starting to come off again... It's a little different this time I think. There are no rub marks on the cam so I dont think it's making contact anymore, I'm thinking it's the module... There is a VERY slight gap between the module and cam and the wear marks on the serving looks like a vertical cut as if the inside "lip" of the module is cutting into the cable serving... Any help is appreciated
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Old 10-20-2015, 07:11 PM   #18
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Old 10-20-2015, 07:14 PM   #19
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Dang man that's no good. At this point I'd just try to get my money back or else get a new bow if they'll do it.
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Old 10-20-2015, 07:20 PM   #20
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That's what I'm thinking...
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:26 AM   #21
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Seems like you got a lemon. Send it back to Hoyt. They should make it right by getting you a new bow
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:44 AM   #22
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Holy cow dude, that is no bueno. did the same dealer set up the bow when it came back from Hoyt? if so, that might be your culprit.
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in your first pic. U should take a photo more to the left, of the cam track where the damages cable is actually making contact. Check that spot for a bur or nick.
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Old 10-21-2015, 11:23 AM   #24
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Yes same dealer... The thing is he put the 29" mods back on to send it to Hoyt and they tuned it and shot it over 50 times with no problems they said...when he got it back he put the 30's back on and it happened again.... I've rubbed cotton all over it and can't seem to find any kind of bur... Is it possible that the module isn't seated correctly or bent/warped in some way?
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I don't think the load up will cause damage in that few of shots. Looks like the string is rubbed leading up to the bad place. I think the damage occurs after the cam uncoils. I think your problem might be the edge of the cam slicing the string after it uncoils. If that's happening, then it's a limb problem (weak limb/excessive cam lean)... easy to fix by swapping limbs around.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:44 PM   #26
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Sorry about the crappy pic, but the yellow is where your string is rubbing. You can spray the cam area with foot powder to verify.
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Measured out the damaged area and take up through the module. As the cam uncoils, the cut area of the string comes across the cam in exactly this point. I'm fairly certain this is what's happening to your string.

Best guess is a weak limb slapping the cam over into the buss cable.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:59 PM   #28
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Here's another way to verify:

You can also put lipstick on the outside edge of the cam identified by yellow and find the lipstick in the cut area of your string after you shoot.
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Old 10-26-2015, 06:30 AM   #29
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Thanks,,, if it ever stops raining I'm gonna try the lipstick
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Dang thats upsetting I would call this a lemon and replace it.
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Curious to know if my theory is right???
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Old 10-27-2015, 10:15 AM   #32
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I took the bottom module off and noticed the edge wasn't rolled like all the other ones he had, it was very sharp... I put 29" modules on and I'm gonna shoot it for a few days and see if it cuts again... I haven't been home in the daylight to shoot it yet
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Old 10-29-2015, 07:42 AM   #33
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Put about 75 shots through it yesterday with the new modules and so far so good
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My lower 27.5 mod for my Nitrum Turbo was treating my factory buss serving pretty bad. Bought a new set (60X of course!) served with halo and it's holding up good compared to the angel majesty Hoyt uses. Also, my module had a sharp edge on it when I installed it. I took a jeweler's file and broke the edge which helped a ton.

Hmmmm
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I took the bottom module off and noticed the edge wasn't rolled like all the other ones he had, it was very sharp... I put 29" modules on and I'm gonna shoot it for a few days and see if it cuts again... I haven't been home in the daylight to shoot it yet

Hmmmm
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Old 10-29-2015, 09:24 AM   #36
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Yea I'm pretty sure I see what you meant now
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