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Old 07-16-2017, 04:49 PM   #1
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Default Used auto purchase - Did not disclose wreck

Is there any recourse I may have.
I purchased a used auto from a dealer and they did not disclose it had been wrecked.
I asked and was told no. I check car fax and nothing was reported.
They did a decent job on the repair and hiding the frame repair.
It was purchased as is and no warranty, but the salesman lied about it being wrecked. They also painted the frame with bed liner to hide the damage.

What say you GS.
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Old 07-16-2017, 04:51 PM   #2
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I don't think you have a leg to stand on, honestly.

It sucks, but I think you're On your own
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Old 07-16-2017, 04:52 PM   #3
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yes you do, if they told you it was NOT wrecked, thats deceptive practice, go back to the dealer, and start climbing the ladder..!! Be the squeaky wheel....

If the dealer has a facebook page, be the guy who does a review and rake them across the coals...

dont give up after a day, be diligent, be heard..........
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Old 07-16-2017, 04:54 PM   #4
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yes you do, if they told you it was NOT wrecked, thats deceptive practice, go back to the dealer, and start climbing the ladder..!! Be the squeaky wheel....

If the dealer has a facebook page, be the guy who does a review and rake them across the coals...

dont give up after a day, be diligent, be heard..........
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Old 07-16-2017, 04:54 PM   #5
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yes you do, if they told you it was NOT wrecked, thats deceptive practice, go back to the dealer, and start climbing the ladder..!! Be the squeaky wheel....

If the dealer has a facebook page, be the guy who does a review and rake them across the coals...
Only if the Dealership knew about it. Thought carfax had a buyback deal?
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:38 PM   #6
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It was bought at one of those small road side dealers not a big lot.
I'm not too upset as it's a deer lease truck, but would not have paid what I did if he told the truth that it was wrecked.
The repair is good and frame looks straight, but....
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:42 PM   #7
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Only if the Dealership knew about it. Thought carfax had a buyback deal?


For carfax buyback the problem has to have been reported to the DMV and not show up on the carfax report.
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:45 PM   #8
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Lemon Law?
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:50 PM   #9
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I know someone that bought one from texas auto, he had truck less then a year and decided he wanted a jeep. went to trade it in and they found out it had been totaled. He took it back to texas auto, they said they would not do anything about it until he said his lawyer aready knew about it and he would be calling his lawyer back to let him know texas auto would not correct the problem. They asked my buddy if there was a jeep they had he would be interested in and would swap out with him.
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:21 PM   #10
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Only if the Dealership knew about it. Thought carfax had a buyback deal?
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Would be difficult for you to prove they knew if no paperwork trail
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:31 PM   #11
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Who did the repair? Does a dealer have more responsibility than an individual? What if you sold it before you found out you would also claim it hadn't been wrecked. Could the next buyer come back against you? Another reason to have a used car checked out by your TRUSTED mechanic
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:32 PM   #12
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I doubt there is much you can do. If it's not on the carfax all the dealer has to do is say they didn't know about and they checked the carfax


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Old 07-16-2017, 07:54 PM   #13
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I doubt there is much you can do. If it's not on the carfax all the dealer has to do is say they didn't know about and they checked the carfax


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Old 07-16-2017, 07:57 PM   #14
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You are stuck with it. This is why a pre purchase check is important.
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:38 PM   #15
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It was bought at one of those small road side dealers not a big lot.
I'm not too upset as it's a deer lease truck, but would not have paid what I did if he told the truth that it was wrecked.
The repair is good and frame looks straight, but....
They bought it at action probably, did they tote the note for you classic scam by roadside dealers
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:52 PM   #16
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Texas is a "as is" state. Good luck.....
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:58 PM   #17
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Texas is a "as is" state. Good luck.....
Yep ! Ask me I found out the hard way
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:05 PM   #18
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They bought it at action probably, did they tote the note for you classic scam by roadside dealers
All car lots buy from the auction. How do you think you can buy a dodge at a Toyota dealership or so on????
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:23 PM   #19
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All car lots buy from the auction. How do you think you can buy a dodge at a Toyota dealership or so on????


Most big boys don't buy from auction. If you buy a dodge at a Toyota dealer, chances are it's a trade in


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Old 07-16-2017, 09:29 PM   #20
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Was it Earth Motor Cars by chance? They have a history of doing that crap. They even gave me a bogus Carfax.


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Old 07-16-2017, 09:44 PM   #21
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Most big boys don't buy from auction. If you buy a dodge at a Toyota dealer, chances are it's a trade in


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Say what?? Not the big box dealers around here they get their used cars from trade ins and auctions both. If they don't have any trade ins that fit their sales demand they buy them at auction.
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:45 PM   #22
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So what did we learn here fellers?

Carfax, Auto Check and all them others are completely B S!


Just like that Dealers Invoice they show you!
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Old 07-17-2017, 12:11 AM   #23
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Had a friend buy a used truck and noticed a few days later the inspection sticker mileage was 25,000 miles more than the odometer read. He took it back to the dealer and they made it right with him.
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:15 AM   #24
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I have run into several occasions where I found out that carfax wasn't accurate. I will use the carfax report as a preliminary method of decided if a vehicle is worth looking at, but I don't trust it in the least bit.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:07 AM   #25
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Unless the vehicle was totaled and has a reconditioned title and that wasn't disclosed..... You probably have a chance.
If the vehicle was just wrecked but not totaled you have zero chance of getting any money back.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:15 AM   #26
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Problem with carfax and the similar sites is that not everything is reported. Generally if you don't utilize your insurance to repair a vehicle, it isn't reported.

There may be other ways to keep it off a carfax, but I know that insurance claims put it on the vin
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:13 AM   #27
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You will only have a legal case if the title is a salvage title that wasn't disclosed. Otherwise, if it wasn't on the carfax or DMV records, like others said, they can deny knowledge of any damage.
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:58 AM   #28
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My bet is it wasn't totaled, therefore nothing to disclose. Frame repairs happen more than you think. As long as it wasn't too bad, a frame repair is no different than fixing a dent in a door, and no dealer is going to disclose a door dent.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:14 AM   #29
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How did you determine it was wrecked?

What proof do you have the salesman knew it was wrecked?
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:29 AM   #30
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Lmao! EVERY DEALER BUYS AT THE AUCTION.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:35 AM   #31
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Problem with carfax and the similar sites is that not everything is reported. Generally if you don't utilize your insurance to repair a vehicle, it isn't reported.

There may be other ways to keep it off a carfax, but I know that insurance claims put it on the vin
Bingo.

Not all shops report. That was a huge wrecker company "hustle" on the streets
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:43 AM   #32
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How did you determine it was wrecked?

What proof do you have the salesman knew it was wrecked?


The frame looks like a new front corner welded on.
Dealer did the undercoating and painting.
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:07 AM   #33
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I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know it sucks to be mislead/lied to.

Good luck, hopefully the repair was good and you don't have any problems.
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:14 AM   #34
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The frame looks like a new front corner welded on.
Dealer did the undercoating and painting.
Let us know the outcome.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:14 AM   #35
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:42 PM   #36
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Yep this is why Carfax sucks. All information submitted to them is strictly voluntary.


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Old 07-17-2017, 02:46 PM   #37
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Don't know if it is worth fighting. This is a 26 year old $4,000 truck for the deer lease.
Sounds like I don't have much to stand on sooo.
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:30 PM   #38
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I had a dealer tell me first hand that they didn't report all their onsite body work to carfax. obviously i moved on down the road.
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:43 PM   #39
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I dont think its worth fighting but I would be sure to run theyre reputation in the mud publicly.
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:51 PM   #40
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All the Big Name Boys in San Antonio buy at the Auction. This I know for sure 100%.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:12 PM   #41
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Don't know if it is worth fighting. This is a 26 year old $4,000 truck for the deer lease.
Sounds like I don't have much to stand on sooo.
You don't have much chance, and correctly repaired damage on that type vehicle really doesn't change the value any.
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