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Old 06-16-2017, 12:07 PM   #1
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:19 PM   #2
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:21 PM   #3
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Does anyone still believe he's going to build the wall?
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:30 PM   #4
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Does anyone still believe he's going to build the wall?
Right after we liberate Cuba.
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:30 PM   #5
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Does anyone still believe he's going to build the wall?
I think he will in certain areas. The reason I say this is this week at Rotary our program was about Border Walls. A local company, Gibraltar, builds barrier walls etc... and the owner was in Washington DC presenting there design to whatever committee. 30 contractors throughout America are presenting and approx 5 will be awarded the deal. Something like $300-$400 million was being allocated for this phase.
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:04 PM   #6
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If the wall does manage to get started I wonder if the extreme liberalist will have
a full time presence at the construction zones in protest?
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:10 PM   #7
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If the wall does manage to get started I wonder if the extreme liberalist will have
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I doubt it. From the pictures I saw of where the majority are going to be built it is so dang rough and baron the snowflakes would melt.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:05 PM   #8
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We won't know until September if wall funding will happen. I think he'll push for it, whether congress approves is another story.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:07 PM   #9
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We won't know until September if wall funding will happen. I think he'll push for it, whether congress approves is another story.
My understanding this money was already funded under Bush and Obama sat on it not completing the wall Bush started.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:09 PM   #10
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I'm not aware of that. Even if that's the case there's a good chance the money was re-appropriated. Supposedly the Rep. budget deal contains partial wall funding. In any case I doubt the whole thing gets funded right away.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:15 PM   #11
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I'm not aware of that. Even if that's the case there's a good chance the money was re-appropriated. Supposedly the Rep. budget deal contains partial wall funding. In any case I doubt the whole thing gets funded right away.
Very well could be.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:20 PM   #12
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Sure hope so. I wouldn't be particularly disappointed with partial funding, getting started would be a good first step.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:24 PM   #13
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Sure hope so. I wouldn't be particularly disappointed with partial funding, getting started would be a good first step.
Build the fence where needed and then reinforce the border with BP Agents and turn them loose and let them do their job.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:38 PM   #14
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Personally, Just aggressively enforcing existing law and not giving a dime of government money to law breakers would take care of 90% of the problem.

The remainder would self deport.
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Old 06-16-2017, 03:20 PM   #15
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My understanding this money was already funded under Bush and Obama sat on it not completing the wall Bush started.
The money was allocated under bush, but has to be put in the bi-annual budget to be used...
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Old 06-16-2017, 03:32 PM   #16
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I do know that my company just put in their bid for the construction.
Guess we will see.
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Old 06-16-2017, 04:10 PM   #17
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Personally, Just aggressively enforcing existing law and not giving a dime of government money to law breakers would take care of 90% of the problem.

The remainder would self deport.
Stop talking this crazy talk. It makes too much sense. Somebody might listen and stop floating this wall propaganda.

It really is mind boggling that anybody would want to spend the money on a wall without first aggressively enforcing the law. Common sense ain't so common anymore
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Old 06-16-2017, 06:15 PM   #18
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Does anyone still believe he's going to build the wall?
Nope.
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Old 06-16-2017, 06:17 PM   #19
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Stop talking this crazy talk. It makes too much sense. Somebody might listen and stop floating this wall propaganda.

It really is mind boggling that anybody would want to spend the money on a wall without first aggressively enforcing the law. Common sense ain't so common anymore
Cut off the welfare and free education for illegal aliens and we will have to lay off half of our border patrol agents.
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Old 06-16-2017, 07:28 PM   #20
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Border crossing attempts are reportedly way down.

I agree with the enforce current immigration laws and stop entitlements and the problem will solve itself.

However, once this administration is gone the new administration could put of the welcome mat again. The wall might help in this case.
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Old 06-16-2017, 07:43 PM   #21
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Border crossing attempts are reportedly way down.

I agree with the enforce current immigration laws and stop entitlements and the problem will solve itself.

However, once this administration is gone the new administration could put of the welcome mat again. The wall might help in this case.

It's a multifaceted issue. Am I the only one to notice, the people most in favor of illegal immigration are those least affected by it?
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:14 PM   #22
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It's a multifaceted issue. Am I the only one to notice, the people most in favor of illegal immigration are those least affected by it?
EVERY SINGLE TAXPAYER is affected by it.
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:49 PM   #23
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EVERY SINGLE TAXPAYER is affected by it.
I am aware but some are less affected. I have a (now ex, thank goodness) BIL who is a surgeon. He is a nut job liberal and doesn't understand why people like myself in the construction industry are so ardently against illegal immigration. I asked him, "If the United States were accepting Guatemalan licensed M.D.s to practice in your hospital for 1/3 the money you charge, how would you view the issue?" Essentially, his answers was, it doesn't affect me so, I don't care. There are a lot of people that way.
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:50 PM   #24
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Nada too hottt for part time protesters.....lol.

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Old 06-17-2017, 12:55 PM   #25
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I think he will in certain areas. The reason I say this is this week at Rotary our program was about Border Walls. A local company, Gibraltar, builds barrier walls etc... and the owner was in Washington DC presenting there design to whatever committee. 30 contractors throughout America are presenting and approx 5 will be awarded the deal. Something like $300-$400 million was being allocated for this phase.
"Certain areas" should have been the operative word from the beginning....but "build a wall" sounded better on the campaign stops I reckon . Drones for the majority of the border.....alot cheaper on our tax burdens and much more efficient for monitoring.....thus capturing more illegals. .....win/win in my estimation for the tax paying citizen!

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U sir...... get it!!!

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Old 06-17-2017, 01:09 PM   #27
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I am aware but some are less affected. I have a (now ex, thank goodness) BIL who is a surgeon. He is a nut job liberal and doesn't understand why people like myself in the construction industry are so ardently against illegal immigration. I asked him, "If the United States were accepting Guatemalan licensed M.D.s to practice in your hospital for 1/3 the money you charge, how would you view the issue?" Essentially, his answers was, it doesn't affect me so, I don't care. There are a lot of people that way.
I misread your prior post & thought you were implying illegal immigration is ok & doesn't affect many people. My apologies.
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Old 06-17-2017, 01:22 PM   #28
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I am aware but some are less affected. I have a (now ex, thank goodness) BIL who is a surgeon. He is a nut job liberal and doesn't understand why people like myself in the construction industry are so ardently against illegal immigration. I asked him, "If the United States were accepting Guatemalan licensed M.D.s to practice in your hospital for 1/3 the money you charge, how would you view the issue?" Essentially, his answers was, it doesn't affect me so, I don't care. There are a lot of people that way.
Sooo, let me get this right... You have a sister, who is now single? With newly acquired surgeon $$$??? Seems like that should have come up during our last phone conversation.
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Old 06-17-2017, 01:28 PM   #29
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Sooo, let me get this right... You have a sister, who is now single? With newly acquired surgeon $$$??? Seems like that should have come up during our last phone conversation.
Well played, sir. Well played.
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:40 PM   #30
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Sooo, let me get this right... You have a sister, who is now single? With newly acquired surgeon $$$??? Seems like that should have come up during our last phone conversation.
No, No. This is a sister-in-law who is recently single. He was such an A hole, she walked away from all of it; the houses, the money, the cars, the boats, everything. I do have a sister that is single but I wouldn't wish her upon anyone. She's horrible. Come to think of it, my sister may be PERFECT for you!
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