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Old 06-10-2017, 11:18 PM   #151
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I'm a moron and gluten for punishment.... so heavy deadlifts

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They actually do help me. I have trouble stretching my back and that's where lots of the pain comes from but deadlifts get the lower back stretched pretty good.
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They actually do help me. I have trouble stretching my back and that's where lots of the pain comes from but deadlifts get the lower back stretched pretty good.
Yeah, I'm both ways, which is why i mske fun of myself for it. It get times that deadlifts make my back feel great, then there's times it seems to make things feel worse. But probably more sciatica causing the problems. I know I'm bot doing justice by strengthening the muscle around vertebrae that are pinching nerves.

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Old 06-11-2017, 12:39 PM   #153
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My Rush 12 ruck came in yesterday. I am going to have to break this pack in for sure! Am I the only person who find packs to be like boots... takes some time to break em in?

Got it weighed down to 18# using bricks in shipping boxes to pad them and distribute the weight.

My hunting packs very rarely go over 10# and I am pretty much a minimalist. Carrying weight is more about over reaching and being prepared for the case where yoi might need to carry more.

My plan is to stick with 20-35# for everyday and rucking and do 35-70# for short distance workouts (5 miles)

As I have mentioned before... alot of prep is naking sure you make enough deposits into the pain bank, so when the time comes, you have sufficient funds to withdraw.

Headed to the gym now to work on some upper body.

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Old 06-12-2017, 12:46 AM   #154
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Today I dug a ditch to boarder our flowerbeds with stone and put out a yard of mulch. That was my workout of the day just because I didn't have time to actually workout.


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Old 06-12-2017, 11:35 PM   #155
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So check this out guys. I picked up some cut rock for my flower beds today and they work absolutely perfect for putting in your pack. The distribute the weight well and tighten up really good. I didn't weigh these but I put 2 16" long pieces in my pack. I'm guessing 36# or so.

Edit. I just weighed it and it's 57#. Gotta love how that kifaru packs weight






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Old 06-13-2017, 12:47 PM   #156
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So check this out guys. I picked up some cut rock for my flower beds today and they work absolutely perfect for putting in your pack. The distribute the weight well and tighten up really good. I didn't weigh these but I put 2 16" long pieces in my pack. I'm guessing 36# or so.

Edit. I just weighed it and it's 57#. Gotta love how that kifaru packs weight






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That is a really good way to tear up an expensive bag if you don't tape them and grind the edges. I am rucking 20# of bricks as I type that are packaged in amazon boxes that happened to be the perfect size.

My plan for higher weight will be bags of corn, flour that is taped up. I figure deboned meat in pillow cases are going to be more fluid than bricks.

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That is a really good way to tear up an expensive bag if you don't tape them and grind the edges. I am rucking 20# of bricks as I type that are packaged in amazon boxes that happened to be the perfect size.

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"No sir officer, that's not heroin, it's a brick..... no not a brick of weed. No I'm not training to be a mule for the mexican cartels. No, I'm not planning on throwing it through any windows.... well unless kathy griffin or amy schumer live nearby."

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I almost bought a 25 pound bag of flour for 6 dollars... and tape it up... then I thought... what will that look like

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Old 06-13-2017, 01:18 PM   #159
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Water bottles would work good to fill you pack and not tear it. 16oz of water weighs just over 1 pound
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Old 06-13-2017, 01:18 PM   #160
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Best thing I've found is just a 50# bag of play sand from Home Depot


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Closest I'll get to rucking is throwing 100 or so hay bales whenever stan calls to say he's cut. Not looking forward to it. I'll stick with my weights and eliptical for now. But if i were to come across and old heavy tractor tire to flip.....

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Old 06-13-2017, 02:07 PM   #162
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Everyone should listen to the Hunt Backcountry podcast episode 62
Just listened to it during my 5 mile lunchtime ruck. Will have to check those chassis integrity workouts out.

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I almost bought a 25 pound bag of flour for 6 dollars... and tape it up... then I thought... what will that look like

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Play ground sand and Brute force sand bags.
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Old 06-13-2017, 03:03 PM   #164
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Best thing I've found is just a 50# bag of play sand from Home Depot


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Play ground sand and Brute force sand bags.
Dang, those san****s are pricey.

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Dang, those san****s are pricey.

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Sorry the filler bag.

The filler bags are <$30..and they don't leak!!

I already use the sand bags to work out so I just pull out a filler bag.
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Sorry the filler bag.

The filler bags are <$30..and they don't leak!!

I already use the sand bags to work out so I just pull out a filler bag.
Had been considering getting a workout bag anyways after seeing some workouts using them. I like to mix up isolation workouts with functional workouts. Just had some sticker shock when the implication was the workout bag is cheap. Still averages between $1 -$1.5 per pound, just like metal weights.

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Old 06-15-2017, 09:44 AM   #170
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I wanted to feel some pain last night so I decided to sprint a mile. That's by far the fastest mile I've ever run.




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Old 06-15-2017, 10:40 AM   #171
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The local high school locks up the stadium and bleachers.
Any other ideas for finding hills to climb?
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:09 AM   #172
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Any other ideas for finding hills to climb?
Office building stairs. Stair climber at a gym. Escalator in a mall early in the morning. Put weights on your legs and just go for a walk. Find a bench, step up on it, then step down, one leg at a time. Do standing lunges and squats if nothing else.

I am lucky (At least for training purposes) to work in a 17 story office building, so I climb stairs 5 times once a week with weights. Its about 1300' of elevation change total. If I didn't have this, I would climb the levee in George Bush Park. My last resort would be to walk the tunnels and stairs in downtown Houston.
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Any other ideas for finding hills to climb?
Mountain tactical recommends building a 16"-20" step platform and doing step-ups with platform.
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Mountain tactical recommends building a 16"-20" step platform and doing step-ups with platform.
Yep this, but if you have any lakes nearby many times you can do hill work on the back side of the dam. But be careful, many have hardcore pitches near the top. I slipped with a pack on two years ago and dang near went rolling way down. My wife laughed her butt off at me.
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Good work young man!!!


QUOTE=JTeLarkin08;12506813]I wanted to feel some pain last night so I decided to sprint a mile. That's by far the fastest mile I've ever run.




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QUOTE=JTeLarkin08;12506813]I wanted to feel some pain last night so I decided to sprint a mile. That's by far the fastest mile I've ever run.









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Gained a whole 6ft of elevation too. That's the kind of climb that gets you ready


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Well I started a new program today and the first workout sucked. I feel great after tho. I got 400 step ups in 30 min. I did the last 100 unbroken because I wanted to get to 400.




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Wait for the two a days and long Saturdays!!!


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Well I started a new program today and the first workout sucked. I feel great after tho. I got 400 step ups in 30 min. I did the last 100 unbroken because I wanted to get to 400.




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Added 50 flights of stairs to my 4 mile walk today. That was fun

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I'm not going to be dropping any weight, but I do plan to up some cardio conditioning and probably add in some sled pushes and tire flips for a little more aggressive cardio.
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Today was a two a day'er on my 3 mile hike as we speak. Did the gym workout this morning.



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Old 06-21-2017, 12:37 AM   #182
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Crossfit 4-5 days a week with mixed in runs, hill sprints and weighted hikes is my ticket. From this time last year I'll down from 210 to 186. But that's a huge drop in body fat and gain in muscle. I've lost around 8" of belly fat alone. I've always been able to get up the mountain chasing elk fine, now I'll be able to get down them easier.... excited to be shedding the dad bod!


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I may or may not be eating blue bell ice cream right now


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After walking 10 miles throughout the day plus the 50+ flight of stairs. My wife pointed out that it was hike with a geek day... well, we dropped of our son at a Pizza party and I rucked 4 miles with her along the Woodlands waterway. Afterwards, I was ready for a chickfila kiddy cone.

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After walking 10 miles throughout the day plus the 50+ flight of stairs. My wife pointed out that it was hike with a geek day... well, we dropped of our son at a Pizza party and I rucked 4 miles with her along the Woodlands waterway. Afterwards, I was ready for a chickfila kiddy cone.

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Ice cream would be great but might blow my diet for good. I did take a GU gel before playing about two hours of basketball yesterday. I had a lot more energy as compared to the last few weeks.
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Ice cream would be great but might blow my diet for good. I did take a GU gel before playing about two hours of basketball yesterday. I had a lot more energy as compared to the last few weeks.
Keto is for low and slow in my experience.

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Following along. I've started stepping up, no pun intended, for a hunt in September.
I am n decent shape but it won't hurt to push myself a little.
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I hear you and hope I understand/learn what my body needs. I just like some all out competition like basketball which I can't seem to keep enough energy for on the Keto eating style. After the GU, I felt good through out the two hours and feel no ill effects from the cards this morning. I am 12 pounds from my target weight and hoping to experiment a bit with selectively introducing some cards once I get there. I will see how it goes.
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I've been doing lots of 12oz curls in the river, that's about it
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I am always in shape and train year around. My elk hunts start at around 11.5k and we go up to around 12.5k. Unless you can go up 6 weeks early and run and bike your never going to be in mountain shape. All I can say is to be strong and fit so your less likely to injury yourself. Also I have never been on a easy bow elk hunt. We are always on the move to try and ambush the herd. Its hard hunting.
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I hear you and hope I understand/learn what my body needs. I just like some all out competition like basketball which I can't seem to keep enough energy for on the Keto eating style. After the GU, I felt good through out the two hours and feel no ill effects from the cards this morning. I am 12 pounds from my target weight and hoping to experiment a bit with selectively introducing some cards once I get there. I will see how it goes.
I have posted some "keto cautionary stuff" on that keto thread. I'm not a big fan of cutting out a whole dietary source. Whether it be cutting all fat, all carbs, all this, or all that. I have lost and gained weight over the past 20 years. I know how to lose weight (just requires commitment) and I know why I gained weight back in certain cases (had little to do with what I ate.)

I have lost 45+ pounds this year by increasing my activity (mainly walking at first) and then cutting intake. When you cut intake, you absolutely start to listen to your body. You realize what is important and when. Protein, carbs, fiber, and fat are all important. They all play a very important role in your life, especially if you plan on being active (which is a side effect of dropping weight, you have more energy and usually become more active as you drop.)

Because you want to stay in a deficit so weight will drop, and if you are smart about it and start doing strength training to keep critical muscle intact, then you begin to focus on what foods are going to give you the biggest bang for your buck. You cut the candy just because it doesn't do for you what you need it too. But certain carbs are good. There are always better fats and proteins than others. You get the idea.

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I am always in shape and train year around. My elk hunts start at around 11.5k and we go up to around 12.5k. Unless you can go up 6 weeks early and run and bike your never going to be in mountain shape. All I can say is to be strong and fit so your less likely to injury yourself. Also I have never been on a easy bow elk hunt. We are always on the move to try and ambush the herd. Its hard hunting.
I am personally just trying to get back into that "always in good shape for anything mode". I mention that the key for anything like this is having a solid base for the activity you want to do. I've always thought that jogging and/or walking are just good activities to help you maintain a base for whatever life may throw at you. Out of gas and the next gas station is 4 miles away... well I can tell you that I can without a doubt walk 8 miles and I can carry 2 gallons of gas (16lbs) in my hands for 4 miles. I know sounds silly, but it is stuff like that I believe are good reasons to be in good shape. You gotta have a foundation, and I'm pretty sure that is what this thread is about, having a good foundation so you are ready to push through what the mountain will throw at you. I agree, you go in in good shape (hopefully) and come out of it in Mountain Shape.

I once went to colorado springs for a week and rented a bike. I was a pretty decent rider. The mountains kicked my rear, but I survived. I rode up some pretty steep grades that week, acclimated to the altitude, and put in some decent miles. I did alot of walking around the city too, seeing different sites. I was sore at the end of each day. The 2 weeks after that, back in Houston, I was uncatchable within my group of riding friends. I had that mountain fitness and it was awesome. Problem is, it only lasts a week or so, and then bam, it is gone again. It is all about the base (strength AND endurance)
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Just listened to it during my 5 mile lunchtime ruck. Will have to check those chassis integrity workouts out.

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I'm listening now. Just for reference, the specifics on strength, endurance, and mountain shape started at the 40 min mark.
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4 mile run tonight at a medium pace. Legs are feeling it this week


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I hear you and hope I understand/learn what my body needs. I just like some all out competition like basketball which I can't seem to keep enough energy for on the Keto eating style. After the GU, I felt good through out the two hours and feel no ill effects from the cards this morning. I am 12 pounds from my target weight and hoping to experiment a bit with selectively introducing some cards once I get there. I will see how it goes.
You try MCT oils? I agree with low & slow with keto, that's the way it always worked for me until I met a guy who did triathlons on keto. He's changed the way I look at it, lot more liberal with fats and such. Anyhow he swears a shot of the MCT oil will give a huge boost before any type of workout. I have a bottle now but off keto for the moment so haven't had a chance to try it out.
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Old 06-22-2017, 01:23 AM   #195
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You try MCT oils? I agree with low & slow with keto, that's the way it always worked for me until I met a guy who did triathlons on keto. He's changed the way I look at it, lot more liberal with fats and such. Anyhow he swears a shot of the MCT oil will give a huge boost before any type of workout. I have a bottle now but off keto for the moment so haven't had a chance to try it out.
Interesting info thanks. I did a search and a quick read on some of the info. I will defenitly be trying this out. Hope I can find a source of it here in Del Rio. I noticed that my hunger sensations go up hours after the carb intake. Not a big deal as after a couple of regular Keto type meals I feel like before the carbs.
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There are some MCT's that are garbage and some that are better. I'll see if I can find the good brands.
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You try MCT oils? I agree with low & slow with keto, that's the way it always worked for me until I met a guy who did triathlons on keto. He's changed the way I look at it, lot more liberal with fats and such. Anyhow he swears a shot of the MCT oil will give a huge boost before any type of workout. I have a bottle now but off keto for the moment so haven't had a chance to try it out.
Be careful with MCT oil, it's great but use it in moderation or be close to a bathroom. A tablespoon goes a long way. I really like the stuff from Onnit
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So I added a TON of tire flips after my deadlifts yesterday. Yeah I plan to just throw an Elk over my shoulder and carry it out.

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Be careful with MCT oil, it's great but use it in moderation or be close to a bathroom. A tablespoon goes a long way. I really like the stuff from Onnit
Good info thanks. Yeah any new food substances always a good idea to start in moderation.
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Well, I am planning my next major workout/challenge. I am going to walk between 20-25 miles with a small ruck and my fly rod and hit up nearly a dozen fishing ponds starting from Sunrise to Sunset one one day. This is meant to be fun, but also put my legs to the test on an all day hike/fish adventure.
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Well, I am planning my next major workout/challenge. I am going to walk between 20-25 miles with a small ruck and my fly rod and hit up nearly a dozen fishing ponds starting from Sunrise to Sunset one one day. This is meant to be fun, but also put my legs to the test on an all day hike/fish adventure.
Sounds like a fun challenge!
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