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Old 07-09-2017, 08:45 PM   #1
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Well, after getting a bid for just the shower of $5k, we decided to do all the work, as usual, ourselves on our master bath remodel.

Where we started. We removed all of the existing cabinets as only the double vanity section is what we will replace.





Once we got the cabs all out we started on the shower...


We tore out all of the old tile, lat wire and concrete and pan of the shower all the way down to the studs...





Once we got it all out to start over, we replaced where the tile was outside of the shower with new dry wall...


Replaced the shower hardware with new and raised up the shower head about 10" from what it was....


As it sits now, I have in the new pan liner, drain and backer board. We did put in a nook that you can't see in the pics. A few more pieces of backer and it will be ready to put in the pan to slope, seal everything up with redgard and then begin the tile work...
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Old 07-09-2017, 08:51 PM   #2
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I'm in. We've been threatening to do ours for awhile.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:10 PM   #3
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Done this once and that demo work is no fun at all.

I bet the Momma really appreciates all the action shots!

So did you help or just take pics and offer moral support?

Looking real good so far don't forget to add a light you will be glad you did
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:17 PM   #4
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Get you some stuff called Red Guard and some fiberglass mesh tape for all the seems. It will make your backer board water tight. Your welcome.

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Old 07-09-2017, 09:32 PM   #5
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^ already have the tape and red gard. Just waiting to do all the seams at the same time once they are all done. Just haven't gotten to that part yet. Also will put small pieces of tape and red gard over all screw heads as well...
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:34 PM   #6
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Done this once and that demo work is no fun at all.

I bet the Momma really appreciates all the action shots!

So did you help or just take pics and offer moral support?

Looking real good so far don't forget to add a light you will be glad you did
Demo was horrible and I'm glad it's over.

I helped demo and rebuild, not just pics.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:45 PM   #7
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Looks good so far. I just totally gutted one large bathroom and made it into two. Learned a lot a long the way.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:10 PM   #8
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Looks awesome! How long you been working on it?
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:12 PM   #9
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Good start


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Old 07-10-2017, 06:42 AM   #10
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Nice work so far
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Old 07-10-2017, 07:48 AM   #11
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Looking good.
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:26 AM   #12
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Looking good. About to take on the same but a much smaller scale. Our shower pan doesn't drain properly so just gonna redo the whole thing
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:33 AM   #13
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In for the pics...
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Old 07-11-2017, 11:26 AM   #14
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Looks good!
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:01 PM   #15
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Made a little more progress last night. Finished up 99% of all the backer board and went ahead and sealed all the screw heads and seams up with 100% silicone. Will still come back with the fiber tape and red-guard to seal everything up again. Hope to be putting down the base of the floor by Thursday and then will begin the tile work....
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:37 PM   #16
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Little trick I do:

Do walls first and start them on row #2 from bottom.
Then do floor, so your not making a mess on the floor constantly
Finally put in the bottom row

Just the method I like to use, more than one way to skin a cat

You put a pre slope under liner?
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:44 PM   #17
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You should have went with rain shower head and body sprayers. Trust me we just spent 30k on master bath and closet. When I take a shower it's worth every penny.

I would not even attempt what your doing sir.
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:06 PM   #18
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Little trick I do:

Do walls first and start them on row #2 from bottom.
Then do floor, so your not making a mess on the floor constantly
Finally put in the bottom row

Just the method I like to use, more than one way to skin a cat

You put a pre slope under liner?
Seen several YouTube video that do it the way you mention. Will probably go that route. Did not pre slope under the liner. Most all videos I have seen go flat there and then slope the mortar sand stuff on top, then tile. Any advantage to pre-sloping under?
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:16 PM   #19
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Only real advantage is keepingwater from sitting in corners. It won't leak, but some waters have an Odor. You can turn water heater above 140 (I think) and kill whatever it is that makes the smell.... but 140 water will hurt ya!



On your shower head, don't matter what you got, you will be disappointed that's to our government saving the environment. Look in there and you will see a plastic "restrict plate". Run a big drill bit through it and vacuum it out... then you can get the shampoo out of your hair... but may use .02 more water
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:59 PM   #20
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Water shouldn't get below the tile theoretical should it? If it did would think it wouldn't get below the mortar?
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Old 07-12-2017, 06:48 AM   #21
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Tile (other that porcelain) and grout are still some what pourous (sp?) and mortar will absorb water as well.

You will be perfectly fine as you are.

What tile/marble you using ?
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:03 PM   #22
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Don't know what tile we are going with. Will probably pick it out/up this weekend
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Guy that did my bathroom said that you could use Red Guard in the whole shower and it would be like building a pool...sucker would never leak.
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Don't know what tile we are going with. Will probably pick it out/up this weekend
The "wood floor" looking tile is becoming popular now. As well as pebble floor (I hate) absolutely no way to get it to drain correctly
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Old 07-12-2017, 09:10 PM   #25
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Won't be doing the pebble floor. Plan on a porcelain tile of some sort. Looking at the ones that mimic Carrera marble
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What's your take on mastic vs. mortar type thinset?
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Old 07-12-2017, 09:54 PM   #27
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100% mastic on walls. Thin set on floor
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Poly thinset?
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Old 07-13-2017, 06:57 AM   #29
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What's your take on mastic vs. mortar type thinset?
Mastic has a little flex to it, so would the poly thinset. Regular thinset is like concrete.

Mastic is great for walls, but not made to be in a high moisture environment. Like a shower. It could even support mold growth due to it being organic.

The poly thinset set will give you the flexibility and strength you're after, and will not trap water.

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Old 07-13-2017, 06:57 AM   #30
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That redguard seals up to a 1/4 inch gap as well. It's pliable so it will stretch a bit with stress. Good stuff there.
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Old 07-13-2017, 07:25 AM   #31
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Good deal. I had originally thought about only doing the seams with tape and corners with tape and red guard over them, but have seen a lot of videos where guys have "painted" the whole enclosure with it for a complete seal. I believe we are going to do that as I have more than enough to do it with.
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:34 PM   #32
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Nice looking job. Can I hire you for mine...LOL


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Old 07-16-2017, 06:33 PM   #33
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Great. Definitely use the red guard til you run out! What type of copper fittings are those? Is that shark bite?
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:20 AM   #34
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Got first coat of the sealer on. Not Redgard as was told that it was discontinued, at least at Lowes. Using what looks to be the same product that is a turquoise green color. Will put on second coat today. Can I put the green gard on top of the mortar bed that the tile will be sitting on to help seal everything up?
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Got first coat of the sealer on. Not Redgard as was told that it was discontinued, at least at Lowes. Using what looks to be the same product that is a turquoise green color. Will put on second coat today. Can I put the green gard on top of the mortar bed that the tile will be sitting on to help seal everything up?
I wouldn't. That's what your membrane liner is for. Mortar straight in the "dry pack"

The green guard is the exact same thing as red guard ...... just the "stores brand". It's good stuff
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Old 07-17-2017, 12:23 PM   #36
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Ok.. SO my "layers" are as follows....

Foundation
PVC liner
"Dry pack"

Anything wrong there? Was just wondering if sealing off the dry pack would just add another water proof layer, or just leave as is. The dry pack material I used was called Mapei 4 to 1. Said was for this type of application....
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You are ready to go!

I wouldn't put "red guard" on top of 4-n-1. It's made to mortar on top of
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Ok. Works for me. Wasn't sure if there was any benefit to do it or not....
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Could cause bonding issues with the pack... just a concern. Never done it. Or know of it being done
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Was wondering about that as well. Not going to do any there, just the walls and ceiling
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You gonna tile ceiling?
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:37 PM   #42
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No, but with it being somewhat smaller of a walk-in, there is a ton of moisture that will be hitting it though steam and what not. I did put backer board up there and have treated it the same as the wall so far with caulk and green guard on it.
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Looking good... my parents are adding a half bath and I was up last weekend hanging rock
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Got all the green guard on and ready for tile. Now we just have to agree on what tile we are going with. We are leaning heavily on porcelain as I would think it is more waterproof than the natural rock type of travertine?
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The wife and I are wanting to do this but dont know if we want to take on the project ourselves. Looks like it is turning out nice for you guys!
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Wanting a " modern" look or neutral "classic " look



Could always do flag stone
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Go ahead and texture and paint ceiling now. May have to touch up some but way less risk
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Wanting a " modern" look or neutral "classic " look



Could always do flag stone
Kind of a cross between farmhouse country and classic.....
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I would assume it is more recommended to use a "sealed" tile like a ceramic or porcelain correct? Don't really want to have to seal up any tile and have to maintain it over time.
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Tumbled marble is my favorite. You wipe on a sealer/ enhancer when done. Last 5+ years.
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