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Originally posted by banzai View PostTrump and Sessions have supported the continuation of civil asset forfeiture activities by law enforcement agencies without the requirement of criminal conviction of the private property owner. If cash and property is obtained through criminal activity, then show me the conviction before you take it, otherwise the citizen cannot defend themselves. If a person is caught and convicted for breaking a law for significant personal enrichment, then confiscate the proceeds of the criminal activity.
I support just about everything that Trump has done except civil asset forfeiture without criminal conviction and the fact that his DOJ did not put a hard stop on his opponents starting up the Russian hacking / collusion false accusations from the very beginning. It has been months of investigation, wasting money and time, and they have no evidence of any crimes, zero indictments, and zero charges.Originally posted by miket View PostI did not know that either. That is a serious issue. Blantently unconstitutional.
But I see why they would do it when seizing millions in a drug sting. Would be stupid to bust a person with millions in cash with a 99% conviction at hand and let them use it all on a good lawyer/s.
They should be able to lock up the money at least until the person is convicted or not.
I'm just babbling though. I know nothing on this issue.
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Originally posted by banzai View PostTrump and Sessions have supported the continuation of civil asset forfeiture activities by law enforcement agencies without the requirement of criminal conviction of the private property owner. If cash and property is obtained through criminal activity, then show me the conviction before you take it, otherwise the citizen cannot defend themselves. If a person is caught and convicted for breaking a law for significant personal enrichment, then confiscate the proceeds of the criminal activity.
I support just about everything that Trump has done except civil asset forfeiture without criminal conviction and the fact that his DOJ did not put a hard stop on his opponents starting up the Russian hacking / collusion false accusations from the very beginning. It has been months of investigation, wasting money and time, and they have no evidence of any crimes, zero indictments, and zero charges.
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Originally posted by banzai View PostTrump and Sessions have supported the continuation of civil asset forfeiture activities by law enforcement agencies without the requirement of criminal conviction of the private property owner. If cash and property is obtained through criminal activity, then show me the conviction before you take it, otherwise the citizen cannot defend themselves. If a person is caught and convicted for breaking a law for significant personal enrichment, then confiscate the proceeds of the criminal activity.
I support just about everything that Trump has done except civil asset forfeiture without criminal conviction and the fact that his DOJ did not put a hard stop on his opponents starting up the Russian hacking / collusion false accusations from the very beginning. It has been months of investigation, wasting money and time, and they have no evidence of any crimes, zero indictments, and zero charges.
This is my biggest problem with Sessions. He is not libertarian friendly. Same with his war on MJ he wants. I was hoping the rift that has begun between them will end this soon. Both are unconstitutional and Structuring laws make CAF even worse.
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Originally posted by RiverRat1 View PostIt's bad if used a lot.
But I see why they would do it when seizing millions in a drug sting. Would be stupid to bust a person with millions in cash with a 99% conviction at hand and let them use it all on a good lawyer/s.
They should be able to lock up the money at least until the person is convicted or not.
I'm just babbling though. I know nothing on this issue.
Just google asset forfeiture Tenaha, Texas
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Originally posted by Roy Munson View PostThis is more on a state level, but when its abused and it is frequently, its not just millions its whatever the person has on them.
Just google asset forfeiture Tenaha, Texas
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Originally posted by Charles View PostWasn't aware of this. Do you have specific cases or sources you could share with us? THX.
It is from 2014, but the citizens are still subject to the same confiscation risk today.Last edited by banzai; 08-22-2017, 01:15 PM.
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Stole money from his own charity that was benefiting veterans - Fined $2 million.
Scammed people out of millions of dollars with Trump University - Paid out $25 million 2 weeks before he took office.
Welcomed help from Russia on his 2016 campaign.
Obstructed the Russia investigation
Has told over 12,000 lies to the public since 1/20/2017
Broke campaign finance laws by paying off a Playboy model and a p0rn star to keep quiet about his affairs while having a wife and baby at home - A model Christian
Extorted Ukraine by holding up military aide until they publicly announced an investigation into 2 of trump's conspiracy theories.
Here are a few Trump associates that have been burned just by being involved with him. Does anyone think it is odd that all these people around him fall, but so many of you think Trump is totally innocent? "Birds of a feather..."
Michael Flynn, Trump’s national security adviser, on one count of lying to the FBI
Rick Gates, Trump’s former deputy campaign manager and Manafort protégé, on one count of conspiracy against the United States and one count of making false statements to FBI agents
George Papadopoulos, a low-level Trump foreign policy adviser, for making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Russians during the campaign
Michael Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer and fixer, who pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about a possible Trump Organization real estate project in Moscow that was under consideration during the 2016 presidential campaign.
Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, who pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy against the US and one count of conspiracy to obstruct justice.
Roger Stone, a longtime Trump friend and adviser, is currently on trial for his alleged interactions with WikiLeaks, the organization that released emails from the Clinton campaign stolen by Russia.Rudy will surely be indicted
Lev Parnas and Egor Fruman - Indicted for violated campaign finance law and conspired to use foreign money to buy political influence
**Nothing to see here. These are not the droids you are looking for**Last edited by ballsie; 11-12-2019, 10:23 AM.
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Originally posted by ballsie View PostScammed people out of millions of dollars with Trump University - Paid out $25 million 2 weeks before he took office.
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