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Old 12-14-2017, 09:09 PM   #1
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Default Weatherby Mark V Action vs Weatherby Vanguard action

Is there any difference between a Weatherby mV Action and a Weatherby vanguard action? Wanting to build a rifle on a Weatherby action.
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:15 PM   #2
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A world of difference. Mark V is far superior to the Vanguard.
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:18 PM   #3
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A world of difference. Mark V is far superior to the Vanguard.
Do you know what the differences are? Not questioning you, I am legitimately curious. Materials? Tolerances?
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:19 PM   #4
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A lot of difference, if you want to build on a Vangaurd action just get a Howa 1500 action and build on it. Same actions
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:23 PM   #5
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Do you know what the differences are? Not questioning you, I am legitimately curious. Materials? Tolerances?
Vanguard is a Howa 1500. Mark V is true Roy Weatherby. 54 degree bolt throw, serious lugs etc.
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:36 PM   #6
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Mark V is a 9 lug action built to withstand the pressures of Weatherby Magnum cartridges.
Vanguard is a 6 lug action that work within the confines of regular non Weatherby rounds.

Mark V is a true Weatherby while a Vangaurd is a regular rifle in Weatherby clothing!
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:39 PM   #7
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Mark V is a 9 lug action built to withstand the pressures of Weatherby Magnum cartridges.
Vanguard is a 6 lug action that work within the confines of regular non Weatherby rounds.

Mark V is a true Weatherby while a Vangaurd is a regular rifle in Weatherby clothing!
Thanks for the info!
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:50 PM   #8
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The Mark V action is what Roy Weatherby designed for his cartridges. As mentioned, it is a very sturdy 9-lug lockup with a recessed bolt face that encases the cartridge base inside 3 layers of steel. It has vents that direct any gas blowback that may occur away from the shooter's face. The bolt throw is only 45 degrees, as opposed to a full 90 degrees on a mauser action (most other rifles, including the Vanguard). Lots of differences.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:59 PM   #9
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Mark V is a 9 lug action built to withstand the pressures of Weatherby Magnum cartridges.
Vanguard is a 6 lug action that work within the confines of regular non Weatherby rounds.

Mark V is a true Weatherby while a Vangaurd is a regular rifle in Weatherby clothing!
Mark V in magnum has 9 lugs. Standard action has 6 lugs. Vanguard has 2 lugs.
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Old 12-14-2017, 11:08 PM   #10
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Mark V in magnum has 9 lugs. Standard action has 6 lugs. Vanguard has 2 lugs.

Yup the current Vangaurd actions have 2 lugs or at least my 257 Weatherby Vanguard does
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Old 12-15-2017, 12:46 PM   #11
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Pm your cell phone or email and I will send you pictures of the difference. I have both. The Mark V is like a vault door when you open and close it. If you get loads that will cause that action to not open you have made some really really hot loads.
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Old 12-15-2017, 12:59 PM   #12
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A world of difference. Mark V is far superior to the Vanguard.
There are people who would argue with that. The Vangard action is generally considered superior for accuracy. The issue seems to be that, even though the Mark V has 9 lugs, it's very difficult to get all 9 lugs engaging evenly. Back in the 90's, I asked Kleigunther to build me a .300 weatherby on a Mark V action, and he declined, because he liked the two lug Sako actions.
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:57 PM   #13
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Thinking of old Roy used it as a marketing gimmick. His cartridges were on the cutting edge for having lots of power in their time when introduced. Is the action strong, yes but so are normal 2 lug designs. The MK 5 action does offer a shorter bolt throw over others. If they are so superior why hasn't the rest of the world jumped on the design?
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There are people who would argue with that. The Vangard action is generally considered superior for accuracy. The issue seems to be that, even though the Mark V has 9 lugs, it's very difficult to get all 9 lugs engaging evenly. Back in the 90's, I asked Kleigunther to build me a .300 weatherby on a Mark V action, and he declined, because he liked the two lug Sako actions.
Some people argue about anything these days. It doesn't establish their argument is meritorious.
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Old 12-15-2017, 02:31 PM   #15
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If they are so superior why hasn't the rest of the world jumped on the design?
The vast majority of rifles built are targeted at the lower price points, for one. Then there's patent issues.
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